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blatham
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 09:48 am
Following on Trump's 126 tweets/retweets on Sunday...
Quote:
Rucker: In one of your Mother’s Day tweets, you appeared to accuse President Obama of “the biggest political crime in American history, by far” — those were your words. What crime exactly are you accusing President Obama of committing, and do you believe the Justice Department should prosecute him?

Trump: Obamagate. It’s been going on for a long time. It’s been going on from before I even got elected, and it’s a disgrace that it happened, and if you look at what’s gone on, and if you look at now, all this information that’s being released — and from what I understand, that’s only the beginning — some terrible things happened, and it should never be allowed to happen in our country again. And you’ll be seeing what’s going on over the next, over the coming weeks but I, and I wish you’d write honestly about it but unfortunately you choose not to do so.

Rucker: What is the crime, exactly, that you’re accusing him of?

Trump: You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to everybody. All you have to do is read the newspapers, except yours.


I previously had some doubts that Trump was on to something regarding Obama's crimes (which Giuliani has described as so terrible that Obama deserves to be executed) but this clear and careful summary from Trump has changed my mind.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2020 10:04 am
@blatham,
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I previously had some doubts that Trump was on to something regarding Obama's crimes (which Giuliani has described as so terrible that Obama deserves to be executed)


Where's your sarcasm emoji? The piddly winkers will think you were serious!!!!
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hightor
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 10:09 am
When the susceptibility of the aged and infirm to covid was first noticed I wondered if the demographic wasn't something that Trump/McConnell would find somewhat appealing...fewer people drawing Social Security/Medicare. When the danger to so many of our "essential workers" — immigrants, women, hispanics and blacks — became apparent I was reminded of Australia in the '50s when it featured a white laboring class. But, unfortunately for the Kochs, I don't see that happening here. Our working class white population isn't going to empty bedpans, pick produce in the field, or work in the meat-packing industry for $7 an hour.
blatham
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2020 10:18 am
@hightor,
I was talking to my ex yesterday. For the last few years she's been working at a psychiatric hospital in Sherman Texas. She informed me that there is a Tyson plant there and that it hires ex-convicts and individuals with psychiatric problems.

That could be construed as a hiring policy to help out the disadvantaged. It is however definitely not how I construe it.
Setanta
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 10:23 am
@hightor,
I've already mentioned how the death of the elderly will appeal to the Republicans. They howled about Social Security in 1935, and they've attempted to undermine it ever since. (Of course, they're happy enough to plunder the Social Security Trust Fund to bolster their bloated budgets, just as are the Democrats). I also mentioned how happy they'd be to see deaths in prisons and jails. You make a good point about nurses' aides, stoop laborers and the people in the meat packing industry. I posted this article earlier:

Column: A century later, meatpacking plants still resemble Upton Sinclair’s depiction in ‘The Jungle’

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Conditions in the plants have become even more unhealthy in the COVID-19 crisis, according to allegations in a federal lawsuit filed against Smithfield Foods, a leading pork processor, by an anonymous employee at the company’s Milan, Mo., plant and the Rural Community Workers Alliance, an advocacy group.

The lawsuit asserts that the plant provides workers with “insufficient personal protective equipment;...schedules their worktime and breaks in a manner that forces workers to be crowded into cramped hallways and restrooms,...refuses to provide workers sufficient opportunities or time to wash their hands.”


But hey, Plump wants to be re-elected, so we've got to get the economy moving. All true Americans (well, wage-earners, anyway) should be willing to take one for the team.
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revelette3
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 10:38 am
@hightor,
That is true. My sister-in-law is a true republican, loves Trump. I can get along with her, if I stick to talk of marriage and children, hair... stuff like that. Unless she starts my own children that is. Anyway, she told me a story about her vacation she had dubbed "the vacation from hell." I am not going to repeat a lot of her prejudiced accusations she made against the cleaning ladies. It was epic and involved stealing. But she did repeat in an offended manner a remark she heard from the cleaning ladies about the immigrants that come to America actually work. Which subtle remark left the clear indication she (the cleaning lady) didn't think Americans did.

I gather they were not Hispanic but from Europe somewhere and were white, I suspect good looking as well, but she didn't say so. You would have to picture my sister-in-law. She is tiny, about 4"11 and probably under a hundred pounds. But she has a mouth on her and is not afraid of anybody or afraid to say anything to anybody either. I often wondered how she has gotten away with it. As a rule, I don't curse, but I remember the one time I lost my temper with her on the phone involving my children and I did use a curse word. My children heard me and they talked about it for years as though it was a big thing and laughed about it.

Do you think hotel owners and the like get some kind of compensation for hiring immigrants vs. citizens of the US who might apply for some of these jobs? I mean, seriously, are they able to pay without paying what they would have to pay a US citizen? Wouldn't they get in trouble for that? If not, it would seem to me that is where the problem (if we have one) would be pinpointed to right there.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 10:45 am
@blatham,
That's not even how Tyson or the state of Texas looks at it either.

Its literally 'killing' two birds with one stone.
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Setanta
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 10:47 am
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:
Do you think hotel owners and the like get some kind of compensation for hiring immigrants vs. citizens of the US who might apply for some of these jobs? I mean, seriously, are they able to pay without paying what they would have to pay a US citizen? Wouldn't they get in trouble for that? If not, it would seem to me that is where the problem (if we have one) would be pinpointed to right there.


Immediately after the fat boy moved into the White House, it was revealed that he had hired immigrant labor at his resort hotels, after all of his campaign rhetoric. (His daughter also put ads up at the WH web site to sell her cheap jewelry, which is made overseas.) But this hasn't stopped, even after the hoorah when he did it in 2017.

Trump Says Mar-A-Lago Can’t Find US Workers To Hire. New Documents Show Dozens Applied.

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For years, President Donald Trump has insisted it’s impossible to find Americans to fill seasonal jobs at his hotels, resorts, and wineries, leaving him no choice but to hire foreign guest workers instead.

“You can’t get help,” he has said.

But government records obtained by BuzzFeed News reveal for the first time that at least 58 US workers applied for the temporary jobs as cooks, servers, and housekeepers at Mar-a-Lago and other Trump resorts from early 2014 through mid-2018.
livinglava
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 11:16 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

But government records obtained by BuzzFeed News reveal for the first time that at least 58 US workers applied for the temporary jobs as cooks, servers, and housekeepers at Mar-a-Lago and other Trump resorts from early 2014 through mid-2018.


Is it possible that they didn't pass screening processes?

Why would anyone automatically hire someone just because of their nationality?

Sadly there is discrimination against people because of nationality and other ethnic prejudices/assumptions, but I don't think anyone would hire an individual based on their nationality/ethnicity while ignoring other reasons not to hire them.
hightor
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2020 11:20 am
@revelette3,
Here in Maine the tourist economy is seasonal and employers have relied on Eastern Europeans who come in on temporary work visas. (Some of them are very good-looking!)

Similar situation in Massachusetts:

https://www.wbur.org/bostonomix/2017/06/23/seasonal-worker-visas-cape-cod

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 11:38 am
@livinglava,
Doesn't your supposition BOTHER you!!! - "Americans can't meet standards that people from "shithole" countries can"???

Undocumented immigration is driven bu EMPLOYERS like Trump - he's the freaking criminal fer pete's sakes.
coldjoint
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 11:52 am
@Setanta,
Your story is over a year old. What are you hoping to accomplish?

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But government records show nearly 60 US residents applied for those jobs, and only one was hired.

First of all, why would the government have a record of who applied to work at Mara-logo? Second, the other 59 were not hired for a reason, and how would the government know or even care about it?

Trump no longer runs that business. His sons do.

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Have you applied for a job at Mar-a-Lago or other Trump properties? If so, we'd like to hear about your experience. To learn how to reach us securely, go to tips.buzzfeed.com. You can also email us at [email protected].

That is cute. Please tell us bad things about your experience with Trump businesses is what it should say. Buzzfeed was the first to print leaked info from the dossier they have lied about for three years.
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livinglava
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 11:54 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Doesn't your supposition BOTHER you!!! - "Americans can't meet standards that people from "shithole" countries can"???

What bothers me is that you think in a racist/nationalist/collectivist way.

Not every person with US citizenship is going to pass every screening process for every job. You're spinning that to make it sound like I'm putting people down because they have US citizenship. That's disingenuous.

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Undocumented immigration is driven bu EMPLOYERS like Trump - he's the freaking criminal fer pete's sakes.

This is just you spinning political propaganda. The reality is that there is a lot more to global economic exploitation than the citizenship of people that get hired.

The question is how to create a good global economy so it doesn't result in exploitation of people, resources, and climate.

I thought the global economy was getting better through the decades, but it's quite obvious that the industrial consumer culture has gotten more wasteful and exploitative because of senseless business practices that prioritize profits/jobs/wages over the greater good.

When the greater good is back on track, I'm sure there will be forms of global trade that will benefit all people as well as sustainability of resources and climate.

Stopping the illegal drug trade would be a good start, but that is certainly not the only exploitative and wasteful global economic practice.
Setanta
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 12:02 pm
Invincible ignorance personified.
coldjoint
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 12:15 pm
@Setanta,
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Invincible ignorance personified.

Don't be so modest, celebrate your being.
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coldjoint
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 12:22 pm
@revelette3,
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They know better, Obama has gotten more popular the longer he has been out of office.

He has gotten more popular with investigators, politicians, and journalists( real ones) after the truth. Obama was behind the Russian hoax and the three years of lies, and it will be proven.
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coldjoint
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 12:48 pm
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It looks like President Obama ordered up phony RussiaGate scandal

It sure does.
Quote:
It’s now clear the Obama-Comey FBI and Justice Department never had anything more substantial than the laughable fiction of the Steele dossier to justify the “counterintelligence” investigation of the Trump campaign. Yet incessant leaks from that supposedly confidential probe wound up consuming the Trump administration’s first months in office — followed by the Bob Mueller-led special counsel investigation that proved nearly the “total witch hunt” that President Trump dubbed it.

Information released as the Justice Department dropped its charges against Gen. Mike Flynn shows that President Barack Obama, in his final days in office, played a key role in fanning the flames of phony scandal. Fully briefed on the “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation, he knew the FBI had come up with nothing despite months of work starting in July 2016.

Yet on Jan. 5, 2017, Obama told top officials who’d be staying on in the new administration to keep the crucial facts from Team Trump.

It happened at an Oval Office meeting with Vice President Joe Biden, intel chiefs John Brennan and Jim Clapper and national security adviser Susan Rice, as well as FBI Director Jim Comey and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates.

In a proper transition of power no information pertaining the presidency should be withheld by the president leaving office. Period. That alone should make Obama a disgrace to the office of president. Not that it is the only reason, it is one of many.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/11/looks-like-president-obama-ordered-up-phony-russiagate-scandal/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
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coldjoint
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 12:59 pm
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coldjoint
 
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Tue 12 May, 2020 01:01 pm
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