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blatham
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 04:38 pm
Mike Pence now in self-quarantine.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 04:40 pm
Trump's former acting assistant AG issues scathing editorial against Bill Barr for 'twisting my word
Source: Raw Story

In a shocking editorial with the New York Times, Mary B. McCord, the acting assistant attorney general for national security at the Justice Department from 2016 to 2017, said that Attorney General Bill Barr twisted her words to justify letting Michael Flynn off.

Writing Sunday, McCord noted that the move by the Justice Department to dismiss charges against Flynn because prosecuting him “would not serve the interests of justice.”“But the report of my interview is no support for Mr. Barr’s dismissal of the Flynn case. It does not suggest that the FBI. had no counterintelligence reason for investigating Mr. Flynn,” wrote McCord. “It does not suggest that the FBI’s interview of Mr. Flynn — which led to the false-statements charge — was unlawful or unjustified. It does not support that Mr. Flynn’s false statements were not material. And it does not support the Justice Department’s assertion that the continued prosecution of the case against Mr. Flynn, who pleaded guilty to knowingly making material false statements to the FBI, ‘would not serve the interests of justice.'”

She explained why, using only the documents the government has filed in court or released publicly.

“Notably, Mr. Barr’s motion to dismiss does not argue that the FBI. violated the Constitution or statutory law when agents interviewed Mr. Flynn about his calls with Mr. Kislyak,” she said. “It doesn’t claim that they violated his Fifth Amendment rights by coercively questioning him when he wasn’t free to leave. Nor does the motion claim that the interview was the fruit of a search or seizure that violated the Fourth Amendment. Any of these might have justified moving to dismiss the case. But by the government’s own account, the interview with Mr. Flynn was voluntary, arranged in advance, and took place in Mr. Flynn’s own office.”

She said that without violations of the Constitution or statues, the Barr-Shea motion is a “contorted argument” that Flynn lying wasn’t important to the case, so it doesn’t matter.

“Materiality is an essential element that the government must establish to prove a false-statements offense. If the falsehoods aren’t material, there’s no crime,” she explained.

Barr’s “materiality theory” is concocted by saying the FBI shouldn’t have been investigating Flynn in the first place. The DOJ claims that the FBI opened an investigation into Flynn in 2016 as part of the investigation into Trump and the Russia scandal, and it intended to close it in early Jan. 2017 until the conversation occurred where Flynn told Kislyak they’d be relaxing sanctions against Russia for election intrusion.

“Discounting the broader investigation and the possibility of Russian direction or control over Mr. Flynn, the department’s motion myopically hones in on the calls alone, and because it views those calls as ‘entirely appropriate,’ it concludes the investigation should not have been extended, and the interview should not have taken place,” said McCord.

Nothing she said in her account supports the DOJ’s conclusion, McCord explained. “It is disingenuous for the department to twist my words to suggest that it does.”

The account of her interview is a difference of opinion about what to do about Flynn lying to incoming Vice President Mike Pence and others in the administration. Such a lie opens Flynn up to being blackmailed by any government who threatened to out him for the lie.

“This is where the FBI disagreed with the Justice Department’s preferred approach,” wrote McCord. “The FBI wasn’t ready to reveal this information to the incoming administration right away, preferring to keep investigating, not only as part of its counterintelligence investigation but also possibly as a criminal investigation. Although several of us at Justice thought the likelihood of a criminal prosecution under the Logan Act was quite low (the act prohibits unauthorized communications with foreign governments to influence their conduct in relation to disputes with the United States), we certainly agreed that there was a counterintelligence threat.”

That’s why they were so eager to warn the incoming administration about the dangerous situation they were in with Flynn as the new Director of National Intelligence.

“By the time Justice Department leadership found out, agents were en route to the interview in Mr. Flynn’s office,” she explained.

Her July 2017 interview was about her frustration with the FBI’s conduct using language like “flabbergasted” to describe the reactions. They weren’t necessarily opposed to the interview with Flynn, and it was more about notification than anything. She also said that interviews with Flynn should have been at the Justice Department, not the White House. There are protocols that should have been followed, and she said former FBI Director James Comey didn’t. Nor was the DOJ consulted.

“The Barr-Shea motion to dismiss refers to my descriptions of the FBI’s justification for not wanting to notify the new administration about the potential Flynn compromise as ‘vacillating from the potential compromise of a ‘counterintelligence’ investigation to the protection of a purported ‘criminal’ investigation,'” McCord quoted. “But that ‘vacillation’ has no bearing on whether the FBI was justified in engaging in a voluntary interview with Mr. Flynn. It has no bearing on whether Mr. Flynn’s lies to the FBI were material to its investigation into any links or coordination between Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign and Russia’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.”




Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/trumps-former-acting-assistant-ag-issues-scathing-editorial-against-bill-barr-for-twisting-my-words-about-flynn/


coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 04:57 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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Trump's former acting assistant AG issues scathing editorial against Bill Barrfor 'twisting my word


This lady does not understand what she said does not matter. Barr based his decisions on guide lines put into effect by Eric Holder. Who asked the very same judge to dismiss a case for the same reasons Barr is. I have posted an article from Johnathan Turely explaining it.

So this is nothing more than a story to smear Barr. Typical propaganda from the NYT and RAW Story.
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 04:59 pm
@farmerman,
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I just came in from the fields and youre STILL on this site.

I explained yesterday. I have a problem with the lies that are posted here. I have to be here to see them. I can not see them from my field.
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blatham
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 05:42 pm
Quote:
Gov. Doug Ducey fires the scientists who warn he's making a mistake by reopening Arizona

For seven weeks, Gov. Doug Ducey has assured us that his decisions to reopen the state would be based not on politics or wishful thinking or even a wing and a prayer.

Data, he has said over and over again, would be in the drivers’ seat when it comes to steering Arizona through the coronavirus.

Now Ducey has tossed a significant piece of that data – public health models that predict we could be headed toward disaster – out the window.
link

There's a theme here. If you can control information, you can control what people believe is reality. This is what Trump is constantly doing. It is what Bill Barr is doing. It's what Bush/Cheney did in the run up to the war with Iraq. It's Fox's central mission. It's the goal of Putin's digital operations in the US and the world. It is what propaganda is all about.
coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 05:55 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
FACTS?? from that rag ??

Here is three of them.


Quote:
On March 9, 2016, oversight personnel doing a review of FBI system access were alerted to thousands of unauthorized search queries of specific U.S. persons within the NSA database.

NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers was made aware.

Subsequently NSA Director Rogers initiated a full compliance review of the system to identify who was doing the searches; & what searches were being conducted.

On April 18, 2016, following the preliminary audit results, Director Rogers shut down all FBI contractor access to the database after he learned FISA-702 “about”(17) and “to/from”(16) search queries were being done without authorization. Thus begins the first discovery of a much bigger background story.


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coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 06:11 pm
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DOJ spokesperson Kerri Kupec took to Twitter and called out Todd, saying, “Very disappointed by the deceptive editing/commentary by @ChuckTodd on @MeetThePress on AG Barr’s CBS interview.”


Twitter warning!


Quote:
Very disappointed by the deceptive editing/commentary by @ChuckTodd on @MeetThePress on AG Barr’s CBS interview.

Compare the two transcripts below. Not only did the AG make the case in the VERY answer Chuck says he didn’t, he also did so multiple times throughout the interview. pic.twitter.com/PR1ciceMmE

— KerriKupecDOJ (@KerriKupecDOJ) May 10, 2020

NBC lying by omission. They are not credible. Period.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/doj-spox-blasts-chuck-todd-for-coverage-of-barr-interview-on-flynn-deceptive-editing-commentary/
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 06:51 pm
@blatham,
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It's the goal of Putin's digital operations in the US and the world. It is what propaganda is all about.

Propaganda is what you are all about. Russia is dead and gone. Only a fool thinks Russia decides our election, or a liar trying to convince others.
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blatham
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 06:56 pm
Today's round-up of Karmic Konsequences leads with this item
Quote:
‘Scary to Go to Work’: White House Races to Contain Virus in Its Ranks

With two White House staff members testing positive, some officials fear the disease is already spreading rapidly through the West Wing.

The Trump administration is racing to contain an outbreak of the coronavirus inside the White House, as some senior officials believe that the disease is already spreading rapidly through the warren of cramped offices that make up the three floors of the West Wing...
NYT
coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 07:04 pm
I am just going to throw out the possibility of lives ending prematurely and not from the virus. As the evidence mounts against the Deep State and Obama I would not be surprised if there was a series of unfortunate accidents.

Just saying.
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 07:07 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
NYT

Americans cannot trust the NYT to tell the truth. The last three years prove it.
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 07:52 pm
This backs up what I said about Flynn's firing and also illustrates Obama chose to enable terror when he had a general who wanted to kill terrorists.

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Obama’s antipathy toward Flynn

The vendetta against Flynn began in August of 2016 when the FBI opened an investigation into him. In documents released this week, three very questionable reasons for the investigation were given: he was a Trump adviser, he traveled to Russia and he was supposedly connected to “state-affiliated entities of the Russian Federation.” These entities include RT network, owned by the Russian government, which paid for Flynn to speak in Moscow. Not surprisingly, the FBI did not investigate Bill Clinton and other politicians for accepting high paid speeches in Moscow.

The investigation may have been launched because of Obama’s antipathy toward Flynn. He was fired as Obama’s Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014 for supposed insubordination. According to Flynn, he was removed because of his hardline strategy toward dealing with ISIS and other Islamic jihadists.

After firing Flynn, Obama continued to disparage him and advised Trump officials not to hire him for their administration

I will say it again, Obama did not want someone in the Trump administration that knew all about Islam and would stop Islams advance.
https://canadafreepress.com/article/barack-obama-is-the-man-behind-the-curtain?utm_source=whatfinger

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blatham
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 08:00 pm
This tweet
Quote:
Shimon Prokupecz
@ShimonPro
· 2h
In conversations this weekend, President Trump has expressed concern that aides contracting coronavirus would undercut his message that the outbreak is waning and states should begin reopening, according to a person who spoke to him.@kevinliptakcnn


gains this response
Quote:
Æmily Nussbaum
@emilynussbaum
55m
“Do these 78K deaths make me look fat?”
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blatham
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 08:09 pm
Like Alexander the Great leading his troops into battle, Trump is inspiring brave patriotic warriors across America...
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At the same time, the President has told people he doesn't want to be near anyone who hasn't been tested and has bristled when coming into contact with some people at the White House, according to the person who spoke to him.
CNN
coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 08:19 pm
@blatham,
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he doesn't want to be near anyone who hasn't been tested and has bristled when coming into contact with some people at the White House, according to the person who spoke to him.

The guy want to take care of himself. After all he is the president. That is CNN reducing the news to gossip so it fits nicely with all the gossip here. But like the gossip here, it means nothing.
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 08:24 pm
Quote:
Video: Italian Politician Claims Covid-19 Stats Are Being Manipulated-25K Did Not Die, It’s a Way To Impose a Dictatorship’


We have a few things in common.
coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 08:39 pm
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NBC admits Chuck Todd's 'Meet the Press' deceptively edited Barr remarks on Flynn

Quote:
In response, the "Meet the Press" Twitter account posted: "You’re correct. Earlier today, we inadvertently and inaccurately cut short a video clip of an interview with AG Barr before offering commentary and analysis. The remaining clip included important remarks from the attorney general that we missed, and we regret the error."

Hmm, nothing about the past three years of deception, inadvertently deceptive, of course.

Quote:
"'Inadvertently strikes again!'" tweeted independent journalist Mike Cernovich.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/chuck-todd-meet-the-press-barr-flynn-edit
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farmerman
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 09:30 pm
@coldjoint,
Actually all those 1 million sick folks are faking it and the 78000 dead are just hiding from the camera. Weve doubled th annual "Seasonal flu" count in about 2 months.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 09:38 pm
@farmerman,
Crisis actors.
coldjoint
 
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Sun 10 May, 2020 09:55 pm
@farmerman,
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Weve doubled th annual "Seasonal flu" count in about 2 months.

That is because flu deaths are not put on every death certificate like Covid 19 has been. And like Covid 19 people die with the flu not from it. It is not dangerous enough to tank our economy over, and never has been.
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