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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
farmerman
 
  4  
Sun 10 May, 2020 08:52 am
@livinglava,
Quote:

I ask because I need to know the exact details of the experimental/observational conditions
I wouldnt bother, youve apparently already reached a conclusion. Ive given you something to consider and it went right over yer hd. Never mind, watch Mr Rogers weekend
Baldimo
 
  -2  
Sun 10 May, 2020 08:52 am
@revelette3,
The specific targeting of general Flynn so that he could be fired and prosecuted was the original politicalization of the FBI and our Justice system.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sun 10 May, 2020 08:52 am
@farmerman,
Policies straight out of the 3rd Reich.

How could they be anything else?
bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Sun 10 May, 2020 08:54 am
@livinglava,
Quote:

Masks do a couple things that are bad: 1) they catch your exhaled breath and recycle the humidity in the area around your mouth and nose, which basically stokes any pathogens that breed within wet membranes that are slightly cooler than body temperature because they interface with the air.


Sooooo close and you just miss it. First the pathogens inside your mask are already there. So one of the big reasons I wear a mask is to protect YOU. If more people wore masks like they do in Asia - YOU'D be more protected. Secondly, they protect me if I'm not already asymptomatically or mildly infected from YOU, because you won't wear a mask for some dumbass reason or another.

I don't get it. My wearing a mask scares you. The dumbasses carrying assault weapons protesting my wearing a mask don't scare you.

Stop reading Dr Judy. She's a quack and provably so.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sun 10 May, 2020 08:57 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
First the pathogens inside your mask are already there. So one of the big reasons I wear a mask is to protect YOU.
I really had thought even this poster would know that.
livinglava
 
  -1  
Sun 10 May, 2020 08:57 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:

I ask because I need to know the exact details of the experimental/observational conditions
I wouldnt bother, youve apparently already reached a conclusion. Ive given you something to consider and it went right over yer hd. Never mind, watch Mr Rogers weekend

My conclusions are never closed to new data.

If you don't remember the details, that's fine; but just don't expect me or anyone to change their perspective because you cite some research without providing the details.

That would be like when a TV ad says, "studies suggest . . ." to convince viewers to accept their product claims without actually explaining the 'studies.'
livinglava
 
  -1  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:02 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Sooooo close and you just miss it. First the pathogens inside your mask are already there.

Have you worn a mask? Have you noticed how you are breathing in humidity after you exhale it? If you are breathing in the viruses you are supposed to be exhaling, you are going to stoke your own infection and cause the viral loads you exhale to be denser/heavier.

Quote:
So one of the big reasons I wear a mask is to protect YOU. If more people wore masks like they do in Asia - YOU'D be more protected. Secondly, they protect me if I'm not already asymptomatically or mildly infected from YOU, because you won't wear a mask for some dumbass reason or another.

You need to read and understand my reasons, which I've posted and explained, instead of dismissing them and insulting them because you just want to argue against people instead of understanding them first.
blatham
 
  3  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:03 am
Quote:
Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
May 8
Exactly right.
@ThePlumLineGS
is one of the very few journalists who is fully onto Trump the Illusionist, onto how this president is weaponizing the power of falsity itself. It’s vital that we unite to smash his hall of mirrors before it engulfs us all.
The big, ugly paradox hovering over Trump’s latest deceptions
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blatham
 
  3  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:04 am
Of course
Quote:
The Daily Beast
@thedailybeast
1h
Televangelist Jim Bakker had a stroke—and his wife is blaming investigations of his sham COVID-19 elixir.
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farmerman
 
  4  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:07 am
@livinglava,
Im not part of your research. I merely spoke about what we were discussing a few weeks ago. As I said, you dont really want any discussion, you want people to agree with you an marvel at your perspicacity. Thats no fun.
Truthfully, I just dont buy your explanation I think you just pulled it out of your ass . Your implying that masks are "Instruments of Infection"(only if your already infected?). To which I said
Then wearing a mask isnt your real problem is it?

bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:15 am
@livinglava,
Quote:
Or it implies that we should take personal responsibility


So we have a President who "implies". Lets take the crystal ball out of the equation and take him at his word: ""After all, this is mostly a disease of the old and infirm""

If we are to take his at his implication, wear a mask. It literally is the LEAST you could do.
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:16 am
Quote:
Eric Umansky
@ericuman
1h
Amazing:

Tyson Foods didn't give masks to pork plant workers

It didn't space them apart

It refused to close

AND it lobbied the White House to get protection from lawsuits.

A thousand workers are now out and three have died.

https://nytimes.com/2020/05/10/business/economy/coronavirus-tyson-plant-iowa.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


Some of you might recall that following 9/11 when the intel community was re-organized in order to better combat terrorist threats, the first announcement of what they'd be attending to was activists breaching security at factory farms and then spreading photographs of their operations. That alone ought to have given us a clue as to the power and influence of meat producers' lobbyists.
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:17 am
@livinglava,
The pathogen crap again.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:18 am
@Baldimo,
Is that an oblique admission that Trump lies?
oristarA
 
  -1  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:20 am
English question:

Trump’s failed presidency has made the nation weaker, sicker, and teeter on the verge of a new Great Depression.

Is the word "made" used properly here?
Setanta
 
  3  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:23 am
@blatham,
I doubt that conditions in meat-packing plants have changed that much since Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle in 1906.
Baldimo
 
  0  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:26 am
@Setanta,
YouTube has plenty of videos of modern meatpacking facilities, you should maybe watched one before trying to sound like you know what you're talking about. Those days are long gone.

Baldimo
 
  0  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:28 am
@bobsal u1553115,
No, it's an admission that you and those of your ilk are lying POS.
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Setanta
 
  2  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:33 am
@Baldimo,
You mean PR films made by the meat packers. So now we're supposed to assume that you know what you're talking about? Fat chance . . .

Column: A century later, meatpacking plants still resemble Upton Sinclair’s depiction in ‘The Jungle’

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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 10 May, 2020 09:36 am
@Setanta,
I confess I had to look it up. Thanks for the tip!
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