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Are you nuts?

The President will stop at nothing to protect himself and himself only. By discounting those American seniors who have served and protected our nation countless times during moments of national crisis, the President is deeming them unworthy.

studies have been done that developed a predicted 98.5% percent level protection of OTHERS when one wears a mask and practices social distancing. I dont think anyone here (except maybe max in the first several episodes of discussing masks function) stated that a mask would protect the WEARER.

It has been shown (by several thousand repetitions of combined "breathing" of variable sized droplets (like we breathe out).
in essence its easy

"I wear a mask to protect you from me. You wear a mask to protect me from you"

This AM on PBS radio some member of the HSS senior staff was spaking about "The presidents desire to reopen the country"
"After al, this is mostly a disease of the old and infirm"

Then his conclusion implied that we should be rolling out the big bus to squash the old and infirm.

Then his conclusion implied that we should be rolling out the big bus to squash the old and infirm.

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Then his conclusion implied that we should be rolling out the big bus to squash the old and infirm.

And Trump is now losing the elderly. As noted earlier, this is a first since the Reagan period and means almost certainly that he will lose the election.

but that was before I considered the possibility that you could be stoking your own infection by wearing one.

What research are you citing here?

That sounds great at a philosophical level, but it is like the old airplane oxygen mask paradox that if you put the mask on the child before you put it on yourself, you pass out and die even if you manage to get it on your child before doing so.

MASKS are a part of social isolation to PREVENT spreading it around.
Did you make that up? Have you a link to it source?

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What research are you citing here?

.We were talking about it in the pprevious thread.I think it was some German study AND the NIH.

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That sounds great at a philosophical level, but it is like the old airplane oxygen mask paradox that if you put the mask on the child before you put it on yourself, you pass out and die even if you manage to get it on your child before doing so.

I havent flown in about 6 months but we sttill got instruction that, in the event of having to useO2 and you are travelling with a child. PUT THE MASK ON YOURSELF BEFORE MASKING UP THE KID.
Theyve always been pretty precise about that.

Many current and former federal prosecutors across the country said they were shocked by the Flynn decision. But current and former department lawyers and F.B.I. officials also sent department leaders “significantly positive feedback” and “applauded the recommendation” to drop the Flynn case, said Kerri Kupec, a department spokeswoman.

The critics of Mr. Barr’s decision noted that no one who had worked on the case signed the legal paperwork effectively ending the Flynn prosecution except for Timothy J. Shea, the interim U.S. attorney in Washington. There were signs of haste. Mr. Shea mistakenly used the District of Columbia bar identification number of his predecessor.

Mr. Barr had asked an outside prosecutor from St. Louis to vet the Flynn case. The Washington office’s newly installed top deputy pushed the Flynn team to disclose more documents to the defense, which frustrated lawyers in the office and the F.B.I., according to three people familiar with their thinking.

The department justified its motion to drop the Flynn case by telling a court that his admitted lying to the F.B.I. about his conversations with the Russian ambassador was no crime because the false statements were not “material” to any legitimate counterintelligence investigation used as a basis to question him.

“People sometimes plead to things that turn out not to be crimes,” Mr. Barr said in an interview on Thursday with CBS News.

The F.B.I. had initially decided to close an investigation into Mr. Flynn, having found no evidence that he was conspiring with the Russians. But because the investigation was still open as a paperwork matter, they used it as a basis to question him.

“For the attorney general to now suggest this interview was unusual or that the F.B.I. deviated from the usual protocol is wrong,” said Gregory A. Brower, a former F.B.I. official and Republican U.S. attorney in Nevada. “F.B.I. agents try to interview people in a way that gets them to talk in an unguarded way and, hopefully, to tell the truth.”

The Justice Department memo to the court ending the prosecution will be a gift to defense lawyers in future prosecutions of false statements, two current federal prosecutors who work in different parts of the country said in interviews.

They said they worried that defense lawyers would stymie prosecutions by challenging the origins of investigations — a particular worry in counterintelligence matters where there may be no criminal allegation — and citing the memo as a precedent to argue that the Justice Department had embraced a very narrow understanding of what counted as “material.”

Several other legal specialists said Mr. Barr’s intervention could still leave Mr. Flynn with legal exposure.

That is because Mr. Flynn was not just facing jeopardy for making false statements about his conversations with the Russian ambassador. He was also accused of lying to the Justice Department about his paid work on behalf of the Turkish government when he submitted belated disclosures under the Foreign Agents Registration Act in March 2017.

Under the plea deal with the office of the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, the Justice Department had agreed never to prosecute Mr. Flynn in connection with the Turkey-related project. Now, he could be exposed to charges about Turkey after all, legal specialists said.

In an interview with CBS News on Thursday, Mr. Barr was asked whether other charges could be brought against Mr. Flynn “for other actions he took during the presidential campaign or during the transition.” He replied only, “Well, no charges like that have been brought, and I’m not going to speculate about what charges there may be.”