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bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 10:50 am
@livinglava,
I agree with part of that. Hillary broke no laws. Dick Cheney the imperial VP had the laws changed about e-mail servers claiming government servers were no secure. Hillary should have been smart enough to realize how bad that looked when she did it. My concern is how much information needed for historical archives were lost.
livinglava
 
  -1  
Wed 6 May, 2020 11:17 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

I agree with part of that. Hillary broke no laws. Dick Cheney the imperial VP had the laws changed about e-mail servers claiming government servers were no secure. Hillary should have been smart enough to realize how bad that looked when she did it. My concern is how much information needed for historical archives were lost.

I think there were deeper issues, which had to do with leaking information to people who would use it in strategically advantageous ways, but I didn't really want to go into the specifics when I basically just made a joke about your post seeking to retaliate for the "lock her up" meme by shifting the issue to Cheney.

For whatever reason, there is a culture of mirror-mirror with these political accusations. The Democrats tend to side with Europe, who tends to oppose Republicanism, which I think stems back all the way to the monarchism/independence conflict that the US represents as post-colonial republic.

So it's just like a bad joke to me that monarchism v. republicanism continues to shape politics until the present day. It may take different forms, e.g. centralism v. decentralism, etc. but the partisanism/factionalism of it is annoying, to say the least.

I would much rather have substantive discussions about the issues than to have to read posts like yours that basically just attack Cheney in retaliation for Clinton being attacked for her private servers.

It's like you can just see partisan strategists meditating on things they are upset about searching for a way to accuse someone on the other side of the same thing in the same way. It's like someone stepped on your toe so you start plotting to find a way to step on their toe in revenge.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 11:24 am
@livinglava,
Excuse me, but how the **** do we honestly discuss Hillary's 3,000 e-mails without including context? How do we discuss the bad law without discussing it's evolution?

Seriously: if we can't have an honest discussion let's just foreclude the incomplete discussion. I'm tired of RWers defining everything by noninclusive boundries.

coldjoint
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 11:35 am
@bobsal u1553115,
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Seriously: if we can't have an honest discussion

If you are one of the people in that discussion there is not a chance. Killary's emails are on Wieners laptop.
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The questions abound, don’t they?

1. Why the foot-dragging?

2. What is the content of those 675,000 emails?

3. Were any of the emails classified? If so, at what levels of classification?

4. Why was there a month delay from discovery of the laptop to issuance of a search warrant to investigate the contents of the laptop?

5. Do the laptop and the emails still exist?

6. Do they contain what NYPD personnel reportedly claimed to be shocking and salacious material implicating a lot of people? And why are the FBI and DoJ protecting them?

Besides yourself, the FBI and the DOJ are not being honest.
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Drop by drop, Judicial Watch is squeezing the information out of the FBI. There is a LOT more we need to learn.

https://www.redstate.com/stu-in-sd/2020/03/29/about-that-anthony-weiner-laptop%E2%80%A6/
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 11:52 am
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Richard Grenell to Adam Schiff: Either Release Hidden Transcripts or I Will Do It for You

A Twitter quote is in here, you have been warned.
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Now Grenell has weighed in on the issue. In a letter obtained by the Washington Examiner’s Byron York, Grenell has told Schiff the documents are going to be released no matter how many angry memos Schiff writes:

Acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell has sent a letter to chairman Adam Schiff notifying him that transcripts of all 53 interviews, over 6,000 pages in all, have been cleared for public release. “All of the transcripts, with our required redactions, can be released to the public without any concerns of disclosing classified material,” Grenell wrote to Schiff in a letter dated May 4.

In the letter, Grenell revealed that the 43 transcripts have been finished since June 2019. Schiff has been sitting on them all that time. Grenell said the final ten have just been finished as well. “I urge you to honor your previous public statements, and your committee’s unanimous vote on this matter, to release all 53 cleared transcripts to Members of Congress and the American public as soon as possible,” Grenell said. Just in case Schiff is still not interested, Grenell added, “I am also willing to release the transcripts directly from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, as to ensure we comply with the unanimous and bipartisan vote to release the transcripts.”

Imagine reading Congressional transcripts where 53 mostly Obama-era people are asked “Do you have any evidence of Collusion?” and getting 53 negative responses. That’s what Schiff doesn’t want anyone to see https://t.co/uBJrld2pUZ

— Undercover Huber (@JohnWHuber) May 6, 2020

This is long overdue and the transcripts, as everyone knows, will show that no one anywhere in the government had anything that could be mistaken for evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. What they will also show is the extent to which Schiff was willing to tell lies to the media and to the public and to his colleagues in order to forward his personal agenda of trying to overthrow the President of the United States.

It is coming out before the election anyway you slice it. The Democrats will not retain the majority in the House.
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/05/06/831799/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=831799&utm_content=0&utm_campaign=PostPromoterPro
coldjoint
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 12:02 pm
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'Latinos love Trump': Arizona restaurant owners urge 'all Latinos' to vote for Trump in 2020

Another minority that only matters to Democrats every four years, at least the ones who are citizens(illegals are always a priority to Democrats) are wising up.
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"Mr. President, we thank you very much," Jorge Rivas said. "I think you're doing a great job, and I think we represent a lot of the Latino community that is very proud of the job that you're doing. And I think most of us, or all of us, all of the Latinos are going to vote for you because we think ... you're doing a very good job."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/latinos-love-trump-arizona-restaurant-owners-urge-all-latinos-to-vote-for-trump-in-2020
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livinglava
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 12:06 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
The Democrats will not retain the majority in the House.

That would be an interesting turn of events. If the Republican party had a majority in all three branches of government, what would/could they achieve?

Do you think they would pass constitutional amendments and, if so, what would they be?
coldjoint
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 12:11 pm
@livinglava,
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Republican party had a majority in all three branches of government,

One branch is not political. But Republicans with a super majority ( the House and 67 Senate seats) would be the best thing that could happen with Trump leading the way.
MontereyJack
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 12:17 pm
@coldjoint,
Yeah, if your ideal of government is proto-fascism.
MontereyJack
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 12:19 pm
@livinglava,
The GOP is getting a little desperate since it's starting to look like there's a decent chance they'll lose the Senate too.
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livinglava
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 12:24 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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Republican party had a majority in all three branches of government,

One branch is not political. But Republicans with a super majority ( the House and 67 Senate seats) would be the best thing that could happen with Trump leading the way.

To the left, traditional constitutional republicanism is political. They side with centralists and anti-US ideologies that question the value of fundamental US ideologies like liberty and division of power.

My point was that if the Republican party got a majority in the house, they could pursue more of pro-active law-making strategy, which could include constitutional amendments, for example against abortion or socialism.

If they did pursue a constitutional-amendment strategy, it would be interesting because it would divide the Republican party and Democrats would end up trying to appeal to certain Republicans to oppose the amendments, i.e. because you only need 1/3 of the votes in either house to block an amendment.

In other words, Democrats would finally start working with Republicans on the basis of common ground, i.e. because that is the only way they could oppose the other Republicans whom they disagree with more.
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 12:27 pm
@MontereyJack,
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Yeah, if your ideal of government is proto-fascism.

Those people would be elected which is a process that has 0 to do with fascism.
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 12:42 pm
The link below will take you to a video of CBS having people tested that were not tested. It was fake to make the Michigan government look good. The line of cars are cars manned by medical personnel not would be patients.

No wonder O'Keefe was thrown off of YouTube. You Tube is not interested in the truth. It is now "THEM Tube"



https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1258018688231407618
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 12:48 pm
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[Mamaroneck, N.Y.—May 6, 2020] A CBS News crew pulled medical professionals off the floor at the Cherry Medical Center in Grand Rapids, Michigan, to line up in their vehicles so a CBS film crew would have a long line for their COVID-19 coverage.

'We Could Have Done Other Stuff,” Registered Nurse complains.

‘Apparently, the news crew wanted more people in the line,’ said a Cherry Health Supervisor.

“We pretended. There were a couple of real patients, which made it worse,” Said
Another Registered Nurse.

This is the news people trust? Not anymore, I hope.
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/cbs-news-this-morning-aired-faked-covid-19-drive-through-testing-site-line/
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 01:09 pm
This guy probably will not be on "Them Tube" too much longer. But while I can embed his video I am going to.
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blatham
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 01:49 pm
Winner of today's No ****, Sherlock! award
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Greg Sargent
@ThePlumLineGS
14m
Trump says he didn't wear a mask at Honeywell factory because the company said he didn't need to.

But a statement sent to me by Honeywell strongly suggests the White House initiated this.

Trump is using these events to project fake normalcy.
Details here
coldjoint
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 01:57 pm
@blatham,
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Trump is using these events to project fake normalcy.

What is normal? Making up news like CBS? Listening and posting hacks who make their money by promoting hate? That is normal for haters, not Americans.
Sturgis
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 02:08 pm
@coldjoint,
So you think CBS makes things up? Do you have the same thought about Pres.Trump?

And when it comes to 'haters', nowhere in the annals of U.S.A., has there ever been a hater as warped and depraved as Trump. (and he claims to be an American)
coldjoint
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 02:13 pm
@Sturgis,
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has there ever been a hater as warped and depraved as Trump.

Killary, Obama, Kerry, Soros, and countless people are more depraved that Trump on his most depraved day.

Why don't you give some examples of Trump's hate. I'll wait.

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So you think CBS makes things up?

No, I do not think they do. It has been proven they do.
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Builder
 
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Wed 6 May, 2020 02:28 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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What about Dick Cheny's missing 7,000,000 e-mails, ace?


All reports state that the White House lost 22 million emails during the Bush admin's time, so who's having trouble with math there, genius?

Cheney/Rice/Libby/Bush were the most corrupt US admin in history, until Obama/Clinton/Biden/DOJ/CIA/FBI got their act together.
 

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