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bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 08:14 pm
Ohio’s G.O.P. Governor Splits From Trump, and Rises in Popularity


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/politics/mike-dewine-ohio-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=Politics

Mike DeWine, a low-key career politician, has followed health experts’ guidance as Ohio confronts the coronavirus. His constituents are overwhelmingly appreciative.

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/28/us/politics/28dewine-01/merlin_171653502_66628e75-000a-40d9-a0c4-f95192a29b60-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp

Gov. Mike DeWine wore a protective mask made by his wife at a coronavirus briefing this month. His handling of the pandemic has led to a surge in his approval ratings.Credit...Doral Chenoweth/The Columbus Dispatch, via Associated Press
Trip Gabriel

By Trip Gabriel

Published April 28, 2020
Updated April 29, 2020, 10:23 a.m. ET

For 40 years, Mike DeWine rose steadily if blandly up the ladder of Ohio politics, finally landing his dream job as governor. He took office last year as a familiar figure in the state, not because of any indelible political identity, but because, at 72, he had been around forever.

But the coronavirus crisis has made Mr. DeWine something that decades in elected offices never did: a household name. A Republican, he took early and bold actions to lock down his state, even as the head of his party, President Trump, dismissed the threat of the pandemic.

Mr. DeWine’s decisiveness — closing schools before any governor in the country, postponing the state’s March 17 primary election to protect voters — sent his popularity soaring. The folksy governor, previously best known for an annual ice cream social at his rural home, became something of a cult figure on social media. Ohioans tuned into his five-day-a-week briefings to celebrate “Wine With DeWine,” a ritual whose motto is “It’s 2 o’clock somewhere.”

Now, Mr. DeWine is charting a way out of the shutdown, taking cautious steps while facing pressure from business leaders, conservative activists and some Republican lawmakers who vociferously question the economic costs of a state in quarantine.

Seven weeks into the crisis, Mr. DeWine is being guided by health experts while avoiding partisan fissures over stay-at-home orders that have been encouraged by Mr. Trump, who hopes a rebounding economy will carry him to re-election. The Ohio governor is the rare Republican official who does not automatically fall in step with Mr. Trump, an independence he shares with two other Republican governors, Larry Hogan of Maryland and Charlie Baker of Massachusetts, both of whom lead solidly Democratic states where bipartisanship is needed to survive. Unlike them, Mr. DeWine has gone his own way in a red-hued state.

He also split decidedly with Mr. Trump by encouraging a nearly all-mail primary election on Tuesday. While the president has spread the false claim that voting by mail entails “a lot” of fraud, Mr. DeWine pushed universal absentee ballots for voters’ safety. Ohio’s secretary of state on Monday called the effort a success, with nearly 1.5 million mail ballots cast.


Mr. DeWine also relaxed stay-at-home orders on Monday, announcing that some nonessential businesses could begin to reopen, even as he imposed new restrictions to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

Beginning May 4, the governor said, manufacturers, offices and construction businesses can reopen, followed on May 12 by retail stores and service businesses. Masks will be required indoors in workplaces as well as six feet of separation. “No mask, no work, no service, no exceptions,” Mr. DeWine said.

On Tuesday, the governor said that after getting pushback, he had downgraded the mask rule for store customers to a recommendation, not a mandate.

Some enterprises that are not on the list to reopen: hair salons and restaurants. “People want to get a haircut, people want to go back to restaurants,” the governor said. “All those things we’re anxious to do as well, but we’ve got to see how we’re going with these numbers. We’ve got to watch it for a few weeks.”

New cases of the virus in Ohio have declined for a week, according to a New York Times database. The state, which has 137 cases per 100,000 residents, ranks 26th among U.S. states. At the same time, Ohio was testing 22 people a day out of 100,000 as of April 15, fewer than many other states.

Mr. DeWine has pledged that testing for the virus will ramp up sharply, to 20,000 per day by late May from about 7,000 per day now.

With the Democratic presidential race effectively over, the most watched races of Ohio’s rescheduled primary are two Democratic congressional contests: one near Cincinnati for a Republican-held seat that Democrats see as a pickup opportunity, and one in Columbus, where Representative Joyce Beatty faces a challenge from her left by Morgan Harper, who is backed by national progressive groups.

Before Mr. DeWine made his reopening announcement, more than 30 Republicans in the State Legislature called for an immediate end to the shuttering of all businesses, stating, “We believe it is time to trust Ohioans.”

Larry Householder, the Republican speaker of the House, said his caucus felt “disrespected” by the governor. He criticized Mr. DeWine for not letting small retailers open before May 12, while national chains have been designated essential and are open. “There is a tremendous amount of frustration from the majority members in the Ohio House,” Mr. Householder said in a statement.


The poll, by Baldwin Wallace University, also showed overwhelming support for the governor. Eighty-five percent of respondents approved of his handling of the coronavirus, 89 percent said they trusted him as a source of information about the outbreak, and three out of four said he was doing a better job than Mr. Trump.


Mr. DeWine’s data-driven response to the outbreak has won the support of top Democrats in the state. Many have praised his management style — honed over a lifetime of serving in all levels of government — as a departure from that of the president, who quixotically says to social distance one day and to ignore it the next.

“Mike DeWine’s performance contrasted with Trump’s performance shows you what character and experience mean,” said Sherrod Brown, Ohio’s senior senator and a Democrat. “The mini-Trump governors in Georgia, Texas and Florida, they’re going to do whatever Trump wants. But DeWine’s not going to do that. He cares about his legacy. He cares about the next generation.”

Mr. DeWine has been diplomatic toward the president, avoiding the criticism voiced by Mr. Hogan of Maryland, who on Sunday knocked Mr. Trump’s dangerous suggestion about injecting disinfectants as a treatment for the coronavirus.

A week earlier, on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Mr. DeWine seemed to go out of his way to flatter Mr. Trump, saying that Ohio’s May 1 date to begin reopening was “consistent — very, very consistent — with the plan, the very thoughtful plan that the president has laid out.”

Despite efforts not to antagonize fellow Republicans, Mr. DeWine has faced pressure from multiple quarters. He declined to be interviewed for this article.

A Republican-led task force on the shutdown in the state’s House of Representatives has been a forum for criticism of the governor. Among the accusations are that unemployment benefits keep workers from returning to jobs. Conspiracy theories have also circulated unchecked in the task force’s online hearings, including that the official death toll is inflated and that Mr. DeWine shut down the economy to hurt Mr. Trump’s re-election chances.

Such views are echoed by protesters outside the Capitol in Columbus, including a group whose zombielike faces, pressed against glass doors, were captured in a photograph that ricocheted around social media.

Last week, Mr. DeWine publicly condemned a Republican state senator who had likened the actions of the director of the Ohio Department of Health, Dr. Amy Acton, who is Jewish, to Nazis during World War II.

Jai Chabria, a Republican strategist in Ohio, said Mr. DeWine’s approval ratings were high because he was listening to medical experts and ignoring political critics.

“I don’t think anyone can ever question Mike DeWine’s patience or ability to withstand criticism,” said Mr. Chabria, who was a senior adviser to Mr. DeWine’s predecessor, Gov. John Kasich, also a Republican. “He doesn’t get caught up in the Twitter games that other politicos like to play.”

Protesters and Republican lawmakers have apparently weighed less heavily on Mr. DeWine’s decision to reopen than Ohio business organizations. Last week, six groups, including the Ohio Manufacturers’ Association and the state’s Farm Bureau, called the state of the economy “dire” and said it was facing “irreversible devastation.” Nearly one million jobs have been lost. The groups pressed the governor to reopen the economy in a “phased approach,” which is what Monday’s orders entail.

In the Kasich years, Mr. DeWine served as attorney general, his sixth job in public office since 1976, after being elected a county prosecutor, a state senator, a congressman, lieutenant governor and U.S. senator.

He lost the Senate seat in 2006 to Mr. Brown, and in the succeeding years he tacked right. He renounced earlier support for a ban on assault weapons. In the 2012 presidential race, he withdrew an endorsement of Mitt Romney to instead back Rick Santorum. As attorney general, he represented the state against a gay resident of Cincinnati, Jim Obergefell, in the landmark Supreme Court case that legalized same-sex marriage in 2015.

Mr. Trump’s easy victory in Ohio in 2016 seemed to confirm that suburban Republicans of the Kasich brand were being run out of town by rural populists, many of whom had once voted for Democrats.

In Mr. DeWine’s first year in office, he was often overshadowed by conservative majorities in the Legislature. He signed a bill in 2019 banning abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected, a decade-long goal of lawmakers on the right that Mr. Kasich had thwarted. After a mass shooting in Dayton the same year, Mr. DeWine watered down a proposed background check for gun buyers after facing pressure from pro-gun advocates.

“The dominant force in the last year has not been Mike DeWine, it’s been the Statehouse,” said David Pepper, the chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party. “Until coronavirus, DeWine was somewhat in the back seat of Ohio governance.” Now, Mr. Pepper said, the governor is at the wheel. “I’ve respected his approach from the beginning because he’s allowed the science and health experts to lead his response,” he added.

Every morning at 11:30, Mr. DeWine holds a conference call with the mayors of Ohio’s seven largest cities, all Democrats. Mayor Nan Whaley of Dayton, one of those on the call, said there was probably no other state where a Republican governor had worked as well with Democratic mayors. “It’s so refreshing — it’s how governing should work,” she said. “That’s a testament to DeWine, really.”
coldjoint
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 08:18 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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Mr. DeWine’s data-driven response to the outbreak has won the support of top Democrats in the state.

The data he followed was faulty. The data now clearly shows this disease is not that devastating and does target one group of people. Older with medical issues, time to protect them. It should have been done from the start.
coldjoint
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 08:34 pm
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From studies in prisons in four states comes a remarkable conclusion: as many as 95% of COVID-19 cases may produce no symptoms:

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As mass coronavirus testing expands in prisons, large numbers of inmates are showing no symptoms. In four state prison systems — Arkansas, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia — 96% of 3,277 inmates who tested positive for the coronavirus were asymptomatic, according to interviews with officials and records reviewed by Reuters.
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After a recent spike in cases at the Neuse Correctional Institution in Goldsboro, North Carolina, state correctional officials tested all 723 prisoners last week. Of the 444 who were infected by the virus, 98% were asymptomatic, the state’s department of public safety said. …

Similarly, mass testing at two Arkansas prisons — the Cummins Unit in the city of Grady and the Community Correction Center in the state capital Little Rock — found 751 infected inmates, almost all of them asymptomatic, the state corrections department said.

What do you know? You know that ^ now.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/are-vast-majority-of-covid-cases-asymptomatic.php?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=sw&utm_campaign=sw
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 09:46 pm
Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey extends stay-at-home order until May 15
Source: KTAR.com



| April 29, 2020 at 3:15 pm UPDATED: April 29, 2020 at 5:07 pm


PHOENIX — Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey announced during a Wednesday press conference that the “Stay Home, Stay Healthy, Stay Connected” executive order will be modified and extended until May 15.

Beginning on May 4, business involving the sale of goods which were not previously classified as essential may return to selling their goods in a limited capacity, according to Ducey’s amended executive order.

UPDATED: April 29, 2020 at 5:07 pm


PHOENIX — Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey announced during a Wednesday press conference that the “Stay Home, Stay Healthy, Stay Connected” executive order will be modified and extended until May 15.

Beginning on May 4, business involving the sale of goods which were not previously classified as essential may return to selling their goods in a limited capacity, according to Ducey’s amended executive order.

Such businesses can begin selling their goods via drive-thru, pick up, delivery or window service.

Effective May 8, those businesses can begin offering their goods via in-store purchases as long as social distancing protocols requiring six feet of space between patrons is enforced.

“We are putting public safety and public health first,” Ducey said.................................


Read more: https://ktar.com/story/3099517/arizona-gov-doug-ducey-extends-stay-at-home-order-until-may-15/
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Setanta
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 09:57 pm
Oh my Dog! Another Republican traitor!
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Setanta
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 10:00 pm
While Ducey is not doing as well as DeWine, he gets high marks from the Arizona electorate.

Source
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Setanta
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 10:05 pm
According to Worldometers-dot-info, the virus death toll in the United States has now gone well over 61,000.
neptuneblue
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 10:32 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
The data he followed was faulty. The data now clearly shows this disease is not that devastating and does target one group of people. Older with medical issues, time to protect them. It should have been done from the start.


Do you live in the Great State of Ohio? Did you vote for Mike DeWine? Do you know his policies or directives?

Have you had a solid week with Wine with DeWine?

Or are you just another idiot spewing **** because the 1st Amendment allows you to?

Did you loose your job a full TWO weeks before any other State? Clog up UnEnjoyment, only to be told there's a backlog and six weeks later, NO benefits paid?

Shut the **** up and sit your ******* ass down. You don't know **** about Ohio.

coldjoint
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 11:23 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
Or are you just another idiot spewing **** because the 1st Amendment allows you to?

No, what I posted about the virus is true and based on data that clearly shows Covid 19 is not as bad as it is made out to be. Numbers do not lie and either do the prisons that had so many asymptomatic cases. It makes the death rates plummet, because it shows how many asymptomatic cases have to be out there.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 11:25 pm
@neptuneblue,
Trump says brushes off polls showing Biden leading presidential race
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump told Reuters on Wednesday he does not believe opinion polls that show his likely Democratic presidential opponent, Joe Biden, leading in the 2020 race for the White House.

During an interview in the Oval Office, the Republican president said he did not expect the election to be a referendum on his handling of the coronavirus pandemic and added he was surprised the former vice president was doing well.

“I don’t believe the polls,” Trump said. “I believe the people of this country are smart. And I don’t think that they will put a man in who’s incompetent.”

Trump has criticized Biden’s decades-long record as a U.S. senator and as President Barack Obama’s vice president.

“And I don’t mean incompetent because of a condition that he’s got now. I mean he’s incompetent for 30 years. Everything he ever did was bad. His foreign policy was a disaster,” Trump said.

Polls conducted this week by Reuters/Ipsos about a general election matchup showed that 44% of registered voters said they would back Biden in the Nov. 3 election, while 40% said they would support Trump.

More critical for Trump, a recent poll by Reuters/Ipsos of the three key battleground states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania had Biden with a 45%-39% edge over the president. Trump’s victories in those states in the 2016 election helped propel him to the White House.

Trump closely questioned his campaign manager, Brad Parscale, and other political advisers after they showed him poll numbers showing him losing the re-election race to Biden, according to a source familiar with the matter.

The president was told he was behind Biden in many key battleground states and would have lost the Electoral College if the election had taken place in April.

Trump, in a tweet early on Thursday, said he supported Parscale.

“Actually, he is doing a great job. I never shouted at him (been with me for years, including the 2016 win), & have no intention to do so,” he said.

‘REFERENDUM ON A LOT OF THINGS’

Trump told Reuters he did not view the election as a test of how he did with the pandemic.

“No, I don’t think so. I think it’s a referendum on a lot of things,” Trump said. “I think it’s going to be a referendum on all the things we’ve done and certainly this will be a part of it, but we’ve done a great job.”

Biden has criticized Trump’s handling of the coronavirus outbreak.

Asked if he would debate Biden in the autumn, Trump responded: “Of course.”

The president has sought to stir up discord in Democratic Party ranks about Senator Bernie Sanders, who dropped out of the Democratic presidential race and endorsed Biden earlier this month.

The president has suggested that if fellow progressive Senator Elizabeth Warren had dropped out of the Democratic contest earlier, Sanders would have prevailed over Biden.

“He should never have won the primary, ever in a million years, because those votes were taken away. They were taken away from Bernie Sanders. And I think I’m going to get a lot of Bernie Sanders voters,” Trump said.

Trump has sought to make the case to Sanders’ supporters that their preferred candidate was treated unfairly, building on resentment that still lingers from 2016 when former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton beat Sanders for the nomination before losing to Trump in the general election.
coldjoint
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 11:33 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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when former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton beat Sanders for the nomination

They love to sneak lies in when they can. Killary did not beat Sanders she cheated him.
coldjoint
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 11:49 pm
Illinois prosecutor says he will not enforce governors lock down order. Some of his reasons are below.

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The “Hong Kong Flu” pandemic of 1968 killed at least 100,000 Americans, which equates to approximately 164,915 today.

We didn’t shut down the country.

(We also didn’t shrink from naming the diseases after their places of origin.)

And every year the seasonal flu claims tens of thousands more American victims, including 61,000 during the 2017-18 winter season and 358 children during 2009-10, when Barack Obama was president. We didn’t shut down the country those times, either.

But in 1918-19, 1957, 1968, 2009-10, and 2017-18, disease mitigation also wasn’t a political issue.

Now it is.


Yesterday I called COVID-19 the “Wizard of Oz Virus,” because — though as with the flu, it’s deadly to the vulnerable — its reputation greatly exceeds its power. As to this, Minger’s Woodford County has suffered one Wuhan virus death. Yet because the disease is now a political issue, his county joins thousands of other mostly unaffected rural areas in being locked down, punitively, just like virus hot spot New York City.

Experts who look at the science, not the politics, tell us that the Wuhan virus will likely have a mortality rate approximating that of the seasonal flu and that the only way to combat it is via herd immunity. In fact, they warn that our current hysteria- and power-fueled lockdown strategy is counterproductive and that lockdowns don’t save lives.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/35582-covid-conflict-illinois-prosecutor-will-not-enforce-governor-s-lockdown-order?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_12_2_2019_15_37_COPY_02)&mc_cid=00ae14696d&mc_eid=88906b5806
roger
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2020 12:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,


Walter, I think I'm going to have to disagree with Mr. Trump. I don't see him picking up any of Bernie Sanders' voters.
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Builder
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2020 12:09 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
They love to sneak lies in when they can. Killary did not beat Sanders she cheated him.


She literally destroyed the inner "team" of the DNC, and drove the good people away, never to return.

That's why, four years later, the best they can come up with, is creepy Joe.

Being "endorsed" by Clinton, is like telling everyone he's just as bad as she was.
MontereyJack
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2020 12:33 am
@Builder,
The latest polls show pretty much what they have for months, Biden is beating trump by 6-8 points. Trump is raging and ranting, excoriating even Fox for daring to tell the truth rather than his propaganda. swing states that trump took by sometimes substantial margins in 206 mostly show biden narrowly ahead or neck and neck,even in TX which went widely for trump. every time trump praises himself in the briefings, he seems to go down in voters; favor.
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glitterbag
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2020 12:40 am
@coldjoint,
You're a foolish person, you wallow in gossip, and you embarrass yourself....and don't have a clue....Sad. Next.
MontereyJack
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2020 12:40 am
@coldjoint,
your pundit has been proven wrong already. CDC estimartes for deaths from seasonal flu for the 2019-20 season, now mostly past are 6600. Deaths from Covid 19, still raging and on the rise in somje parts of the country are 61472. those aren't your irrelevant stat sper 100,000. Those are actual numbers. Covid 19 is about ten times the mortality of seasonal flu, and the gap is only going to widen when we can come close to a final tally. So much for the bogus comparison with seasonal flu. And of course the mrtslity is much higher in the parts of the world with much lkess advance public health measure. Bogus, jpont, as usual.
https://www.contagionlive.com/news/cdc-reports-13-million-flu-cases-thus-far-in-201920-season
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glitterbag
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2020 12:45 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
They love to sneak lies in when they can. Killary did not beat Sanders she cheated him.


She literally destroyed the inner "team" of the DNC, and drove the good people away, never to return.

That's why, four years later, the best they can come up with, is creepy Joe.

Being "endorsed" by Clinton, is like telling everyone he's just as bad as she was.


How interesting, are you not aware that Bernie is not a member of the Democrat Party. I'm happy that he caucuses with the Democrats, but if he really want to sky rocket to the top, the 'Independent' Party should nominate him and support him monetarily. Hillary didn't cheat Bernie, they belong to different parties.
MontereyJack
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2020 01:02 am
@glitterbag,
What people generally mean when they say they are Independent is that they are neither Dem nor Rep, not that they are members of an Independent Party. MA has four extremely minor parties that style themselves as Independent, The Independent Party, the MA Independent Party, the American Independent Party, and the United Independent Party, some of which are probably moribund, none of which Bernie would join or self identify with.
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