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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Builder
 
  1  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 03:17 am
@hightor,
Can't thank you enough, mate.

Your explanation is so vague, anyone with
a shilling in the game will check it right out
in detail.
snood
 
  1  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 03:52 am
“I’m not a doctor, but I’m like a person who has a good (points to his head) you know what.”



Builder
 
  2  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 03:57 am
@snood,
Clearly got the monkey butt going on.

Is that what you meant?
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hightor
 
  1  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 03:58 am
@Builder,
Good. That's the idea. The BBC editing is totally inconsequential. The manufactured outrage pathetic.
Builder
 
  -3  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 04:05 am
@hightor,
The editing was crucial to the scam. That's why you don't like it.

BBC have been doing bad things for decades. It's in their product code now.
snood
 
  4  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 04:25 am
Is the quote not accurate? Does it change in context? He said it, just exactly as I quoted it. He looked and sounded exactly like the imbecile he is.

Some people on this forum work so hard to polish Trump’s turds. It’s no surprise when they end up covered in ****.
hightor
 
  3  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 04:31 am
@Builder,
Quote:
The editing was crucial to the scam.

There was no "scam".
Quote:
That's why you don't like it.

Nor do I dislike it. It's pointless. Simply reading the YouTube comments tells me the particular audience the commentary is aimed at.
Quote:
BBC have been doing bad things for decades.

And so has every other media outlet. It's not "bad". It's called "editing". It's a way to give people the gist of a particular story without having to run all the footage. It's fine to draw attention to the way edits are made but it's silly to automatically assume sinister intent.

So what about the term "NeverTrumper"? You continue to misapply the label even after having it explained to you numerous times. Don't you see how persisting with such ignorance undercuts your credibility?
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MontereyJack
 
  0  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 04:32 am
@Builder,
deflection
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 04:35 am
I watched the whole context. He said it and it did not sound in the least sarcastic. It sounded precisely like he sounds when he's being serious. Of course he is usually talking nonsense when he's being serious too.
hightor
 
  2  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 04:41 am
@snood,
"a very nice rumor..."

What an idiot. It's not as if the virus is sitting there exposed on your skin surface for UV light to kill. And the last I heard, the virus is active in warm countries like Brazil and India so I don't think taking a stroll in the sun is some undiscovered cure. Which is probably why it hasn't been promoted by the medical community as a way to rid your body of the virus.
Builder
 
  -2  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 04:47 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
I watched the whole context. He said it and it did not sound in the least sarcastic. It sounded precisely like he sounds when he's being serious. Of course he is usually talking nonsense when he's being serious too. [/quot
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MontereyJack
 
  4  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 04:50 am
@hightor,
coldjoint is probably going to show up and demand that you provide evidence and cites that it really is warm and sunnyin brazil and India, a.nd since you didn't provide a cite he sees no reason to think they're warm or sunny, you silly boy.
hightor
 
  1  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 05:03 am
Here the same guy is crowing about how Trump's chloroquine cure is "right on the money". As we know, the drug has not been shown to be that effective. If this fool had waited a few weeks he would have learned this but instead he goes right off on the full Trump defense!


Luckily we have the "mainstream media" to clear things up:

COVID-19 treatment: FDA says hydroxychloroquine touted by Trump is not safe or effective
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 05:04 am
@MontereyJack,
And then he'll tell us that saying they're warm and sunny is just another lie the MSM want us to believe.
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hightor
 
  0  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 05:43 am
Prescriptions Surged as Trump Praised Drugs in Coronavirus Fight

Prescriptions for two antimalarial drugs jumped by 46 times the average when the president promoted them on TV. There’s no proof they work against Covid-19.

Quote:
It was at a midday briefing last month that President Trump first used the White House telecast to promote two antimalarial drugs in the fight against the coronavirus.

“I think it could be something really incredible,” Mr. Trump said on March 19, noting that while more study was needed, the two drugs had shown “very, very encouraging results” in treating the virus.

By that evening, first-time prescriptions of the drugs — chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine — poured into retail pharmacies at more than 46 times the rate of the average weekday, according to an analysis of prescription data by The New York Times. And the nearly 32,000 prescriptions came from across the spectrum — rheumatologists, cardiologists, dermatologists, psychiatrists and even podiatrists, the data shows.



While medical experts have since stepped up warnings about the drugs’ possibly dangerous side effects, they were still being prescribed at more than six times the normal rate during the second week of April, the analysis shows. All the while, Mr. Trump continued to extol their use. “It’s having some very good results, I’ll tell you,” he said in a White House briefing on April 13.

The extraordinary change in prescribing patterns reflects, at least in part, the outsize reach of the Trump megaphone, even when his pronouncements distort scientific evidence or run counter to the recommendations of experts in his own administration. It also offers the clearest evidence yet of the perils of a president willing to push unproven and potentially dangerous remedies to a public desperate for relief from the pandemic.

On Friday, the Food and Drug Administration warned against using the drugs outside a hospital setting or clinical trial because they could lead to serious heart rhythm problems in some coronavirus patients. Days earlier, the federal agency led by Dr. Anthony S. Fauci — one of Mr. Trump’s top advisers on the pandemic — issued cautionary advice on the drugs, and stated that there was no proven medication to treat the virus.

As the prescriptions surged in the second half of March, the largest volumes per capita included states hit hardest by coronavirus, like New York and New Jersey. Georgia, Arkansas and Kentucky were other states with relatively high per-capita figures. In absolute numbers, California and Washington, the earliest-hit states, were among the largest. The biggest number in either category was in Florida, where nearly one prescription was written for every thousand residents.

Carmen Catizone, executive director of the National Association of Boards of Pharmacy, said the surge created shortages that “put patients at risk who depend on these medications” to treat other illnesses.

“The fact that people reacted to what the White House said in such a way — in the 35 years I’ve been in pharmacy and pharmacy regulation, I’ve never seen that before,” he said.

nyt
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izzythepush
 
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Sun 26 Apr, 2020 06:52 am
Quote:
Last year, President Donald Trump in a speech stated that America's revolutionary army back in the 1770s "took over the airports" from the British.

So in this light, his tweet on Wednesday that called on US Navy commanders to "shoot down" Iranian gunboats that harass US warships was only a minor mis-statement.

But it was certainly the strongest threat of direct military action from the US since earlier this year, in the wake of the US killing in Iraq of a top Iranian Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) commander, General Qasem Soleimani.

That brought the US and Iran close to a significant conflict. So what prompted President Trump's warning now? And why, with both Iran and the US struggling to cope with the Covid-19 pandemic, has there been this return to stoking tensions?

The immediate reason for President Trump's terse message was an episode last week, when several armed speedboats operated by the IRGC Navy, harassed - the US says - a passing flotilla of US warships in the Gulf.

These vessels included the USS Lewis B Puller, an expeditionary mobile base vessel, and the destroyer, the USS Paul Hamilton.

The US Navy says that in one incident an Iranian gunboat crossed some 10 yards (9m) in front of a US Coast Guard cutter at high speed.

The IRGC admitted that there had been an encounter, but blamed the Americans.

Its commander-in-chief, Gen Hossein Salami, said on Thursday that he had ordered Iran's naval forces "to destroy any American terrorist force in the Persian Gulf", as he put it, "that threatens the security of Iran's military or civilian shipping".

The fear now is that hostile manoeuvring and a war of words could turn into actions.

Nonetheless, President Trump's "order" on Twitter changes little.

The commanders of US warships in the Gulf already have the ability to take whatever measures they believe are necessary to protect the lives of their crews and the safety of their vessels.

They are well used to the swarming tactics of small Iranian boats.

But this episode shows that for all the global attention on the pandemic, pre-existing international tensions have not gone away. They may even have been exacerbated.

That is because the US and Iran have consistent strategic goals with regard to each other which have not changed. Iran wants to reduce US influence in the region and to expand its own footprint.

A recent uptick in Israeli air strikes in Syria, for example, suggests that Iran and its allies are still actively pursuing this goal there.

Some of Iran's leaders - and there is a danger that the chaos and uncertainty prompted by the Covid-19 crisis will simply strengthen hardliners - may feel that the US, given its own struggles at home, will have little enthusiasm for a set-to in the Gulf.

Equally, the Trump administration is doubling down on its policy of "maximum pressure" on Iran, seemingly in the belief - not shared by the vast majority of regional experts that I have listened to - that the pandemic could ultimately prompt the collapse of the Islamic regime in Tehran.

Meanwhile, Iran is continuing to make advances on other fronts.

Its launch on Wednesday of what the IRGC claimed to be a military satellite, using a rocket that appears to rely upon North Korean technology, indicates that its missile programme is continuing to improve.

And while Iran nominally remains within a 2015 agreement with world powers that limited its nuclear activities, it is in breach of many of its terms.

Indeed, experts worry that, while many of the steps taken by Tehran are reversible, it may be moving to a position where it can manufacture carbon fibre centrifuges - the essential machinery for uranium enrichment - in a clandestine way, beyond international inspection.

The US-Iran tensions might matter less if they had been temporarily put on the back-burner. But they clearly have not.

And the risk of an accidental conflict erupting remains as great as ever; perhaps more so given that each may be misunderstanding the impact of the coronavirus pandemic upon the other's capacity for action.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-52399283?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/middle_east&link_location=live-reporting-correspondent
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snood
 
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Sun 26 Apr, 2020 07:21 am
To accommodate Trump’s sudden decision to speak at West Point, cadets will be called back, tested off campus, then isolated for 14 days in rooms with masks. They’ll eat in segregated groups. No decision on whether family members may attend.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-west-point.html

I suppose, if any of the cadets gets sick, they can just be considered collateral damage in service of Trump’s mission - to be re-elected.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 07:43 am
@snood,
Without Trump at the coronavirus briefings, America would get more information from the experts
Quote:
What, indeed, is the purpose of a press briefing where reporters can ask unfiltered questions about the single most urgent problem that the country has faced in decades? Well, its purpose is, presumably, to provide information to the press and, by extension, the public. It is not to serve as a substitute platform for a politician used to regular adrenaline jolts from rallies of cheering supporters.
[...]
The answer to Trump’s question is simple. The reason the government should have briefings about the coronavirus is to share information, updates and guidance from a centralized resource in a dangerous moment. The obstruction to that outcome may lie less with the reporters seeking to clarify what was offered and more with the source of 60 percent of the offerings.
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 26 Apr, 2020 08:16 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWiPqODXgAA2DYs?format=jpg&name=900x900
livinglava
 
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Sun 26 Apr, 2020 08:17 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

To accommodate Trump’s sudden decision to speak at West Point, cadets will be called back, tested off campus, then isolated for 14 days in rooms with masks. They’ll eat in segregated groups. No decision on whether family members may attend.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-west-point.html

I suppose, if any of the cadets gets sick, they can just be considered collateral damage in service of Trump’s mission - to be re-elected.

It's doubtful that anything is the result of "Trump's sudden decision."

Probably lots of discussion has gone on about this issue, and obviously people are strategizing about how to create effective protocols for doing things in a way that minimizes viral spread, especially for people in the military and strategic positions who need to be able to meet in person to avoid the possibility of their electronic communications being hacked into.
 

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