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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 10 Feb, 2017 12:01 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
A left-wing magazine editorial from 10-15 years ago:
You don't know the date of publication, not even the name of that magazine but can quote it verbatim?
layman
 
  -2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 12:05 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

layman wrote:
A left-wing magazine editorial from 10-15 years ago:
You don't know the date of publication, not even the name of that magazine but can quote it verbatim?


The magazine (Salon) is revealed in the quotation.

If ya just gotta know, Walt:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2003/04/11/liberation/index.html
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 12:15 am
@layman,
The link doesn't work.
And according to your given link, it's an "opinion" and not an "editorial" as you wrote.
layman
 
  -1  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 12:17 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

The link doesn't work.
And according to your given link, it's an "opinion" and not an "editorial" as you wrote.


Heh, Walt, you're really trying hard to find fault, aincha?

That's why I didn't give the link, it's now dead. It does, however, give you the exact date of the article if you want to hit the archives at that link.

Opinion piece, editorial, what's the diff? It aint no news article. And the guy is identified as an "editor."
old europe
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 12:29 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
Ryan has a plan, that has been shown before. To claim that there isn't a plan would be a lie.


And yet, Republicans haven't been presenting Ryan's plan as the Republican replacement Obamacare. Or any plan, for that matter.

Trump said "We’re going to have insurance for everybody" only a few weeks ago, and got enormous pushback from Republicans for that statement. It's almost like Republicans who were running on repealing Obamacare for the majority of the last decade are desperately trying to stall, because they don't have a plan. And Trump is just promising whatever pops into his head and sounds good at that moment, because he's Trump.

Baldimo wrote:
I think most of them know that just yanking the ACA without a replacement would be dumb and hurt some people.


Do you think that, or do you hope that? Because so far, there hasn't been much indication from the Republican leadership that repealing Obamacare rather than having a replacement ready is the top priority.

Baldimo wrote:
I would like to see a replacement that phases in as the ACA phases out, It's the smart way to do it.


Meaning you disagree with the whole "repeal first, come up with a replacement eventually, maybe" strategy?
layman
 
  -2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 12:32 am
@old europe,
The whole thing's never really been a problem. People without insurance just promised to pay later, then declared bankruptcy, if pushed, that's all.

Me, I never paid nuthin. I would just promise the quack that I would send a ho to his office a couple of times a week for a spell, ya know?
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 12:48 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
Opinion piece, editorial, what's the diff?
You can use google to find that out.
layman
 
  -2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 12:49 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

layman wrote:
Opinion piece, editorial, what's the diff?
You can use google to find that out.


Heh, like I would really bother to do that? Just answer the damn question, if you got an answer.
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layman
 
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Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:00 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

And according to your given link, it's an "opinion" and not an "editorial" as you wrote.


It's what I said it was, aint it, Walt?

Like I done said, you're sho nuff trying hard to find fault. Too hard.

Try again.
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blatham
 
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Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:04 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Lies are lies. If you're outraged over a president lying, the number of lies is meaningless.

That's quite a formula. Your kid is hit by another kid using a baseball bat. Whether he is hit one time or a hundred times, no difference in the immorality of the act. One of your employees steals $100 bucks from you on Tuesday. Another employee steals $100 bucks from you each day of the week for months. No moral difference.
layman
 
  0  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:07 am
@blatham,
Another guy who can't distinguish quality from quantity, eh?

Of course, that's just one of many distinctions you seem to be utterly incapable of making, so nuthin new, there.

How about a guy who steels a penny a day, for 100 straight days, versus a guy just cleans out the whole cash register on Tuesday, and saunters off with $10,000? Who stole more times?

What if you make it Rembrandt painting worth 10 million, instead of $10,000? What then?

What about a liar who tells a fat, ugly-ass woman that she "looks pretty?" How about a guy who tells you, on your death bed, that you have to sign a document to authorize further medical treatment, when it's really a will giving him all your money? Who lied more times?
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blatham
 
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Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:46 am
Just now digging into the day's news and seeing the 9th Circuit ruling upholding the earlier lower court ruling. Good. Not sure yet if Trump has tweeted that the justices should be taken out back and shot.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:51 am
@blatham,
Trump blinked first. I guess someone must have told him about all those US treasury bonds held by the Chinese that could be dumped onto the market junking the dollar in the process.

Quote:
US President Donald Trump has agreed to honour America's "One China" policy in a phone call with Chinese president Xi Jinping, the White House said.

The "One China" policy is the diplomatic acknowledgement that there is only one Chinese government.

Mr Trump had placed the long-standing policy in doubt when he spoke with Taiwan's president in December.

Previous US leaders have followed China's lead in not recognising Taiwan as an independent nation.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-38927891
izzythepush
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:54 am
Quote:
The standards chief of the US Congress says a senior Trump aide was "wrong, wrong, wrong" to promote Ivanka Trump products on live television.

Jason Chaffetz, a Republican who heads the oversight committee in Congress, said the promotion was "clearly over the line, unacceptable".

Trump aide Kellyanne Conway had said on Fox News: "Go buy Ivanka's stuff."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38925753
blatham
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:56 am
Real world consequences of Bush and Bannon's crowd playing to the ugly corners of US culture who foment nationalist, ethnic, and religious hatreds
Quote:
Anti-Semitic threats are unusual in Albuquerque, according to Suki Halevi, the New Mexico regional director of the Anti-Defamation League. “We’ve been hearing about it and reading about it happening in other places,” she says, “and now these incidents have reached our community.”

The A.D.L. is concerned about an increase in reported hate crimes and online harassment since the start of the presidential campaign. In New Mexico, the group has been working with Muslim and immigrants’ rights groups to respond to and prepare for incidents of hate. The A.D.L. also offers training and online resources to help Jewish communities recognize suspicious activity and keep facilities safe.
NYT
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:02 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Trump blinked first.

Perhaps he did. But it remains a fact that Trump is really smart. Incredibly smart. He conceptualizes better than maybe anyone else in the world conceptualizes. Great brain.
blatham
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:04 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Jason Chaffetz, a Republican who heads the oversight committee in Congress, said the promotion was "clearly over the line, unacceptable".

Words that will be followed with absolutely no serious action, I'm wagering.
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:17 am
Deceptive, predatory business practices are a social good. Legislative regulations to inhibit them are a social evil.
Quote:
The chairman of the House Financial Services Committee will move forward on legislation to neuter the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and its power to crack down on predatory business practices, according to a leaked memo that emerged on Thursday and infuriated Democratic defenders of the bureau.

The memo, drafted by the chairman, Representative Jeb Hensarling, a Republican from Texas and a longtime foe of the consumer agency, aligns House Republicans with President Trump in the latest attack on President Barack Obama’s legacy. The memo detailed plans to weaken the leadership of the agency, allowing the president to replace the bureau’s director at any time. Legislation in the works would limit the bureau’s enforcement authority, reduce its ability to make rules and repeal its consumer complaint system.

It would also greatly shrink the enforcement tools at the consumer watchdog’s disposal, blocking it from being able to go after businesses engaged in deceptive practices and restricting its oversight of big publicly traded companies that are already regulated by agencies such as the Securities and Exchange Commission.
NYT
You gotta love all the swamp draining.
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izzythepush
 
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Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:22 am
@blatham,
And his cerebral speech pattern is so unique it can't be mimicked.

He could be as smart as Einstein and his intellect would still be dwarfed by his narcissism.
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:28 am
Truth is to be found in the Trump administration's most recent statement about what is true, not in earlier statements about what is true.
Quote:
White House officials insisted on Thursday that Judge Neil M. Gorsuch, President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, was not referring to Mr. Trump’s recent denigration of judges when he said privately that he was disheartened by attacks on the courts.

Mr. Trump said on Twitter that the nominee’s remarks had been misrepresented, a sentiment echoed by the White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, during a contentious briefing. A day before, members of the White House team guiding Judge Gorsuch’s confirmation verified that the judge had expressed his dismay in response to questions about Mr. Trump’s insults of judges.

The administration’s abrupt shift highlighted the degree to which Judge Gorsuch’s nomination — a top priority for the president and his core supporters — has become mired in a broader debate over Mr. Trump’s attitude about the constitutional principle of judicial independence.

Well, that's pretty typical.
"I never said that"
"But sir, here's the video of you saying that"
"Fake video!"

And I love this bit:
Quote:
Mr. Spicer said that when Judge Gorsuch told senators that he considered such criticism “demoralizing” and “disheartening,” he was referring broadly to any such attacks on the judiciary.

“The judge was very clear that he was not commenting on any specific matter, and that he was asked about his general philosophy,” Mr. Spicer told reporters during a series of testy exchanges. “So you can’t then take that and equate it back to the specific. He literally went out of his way to say I’m not commenting on a specific instance.”
NYT
"Yes, we concede that all cats are black. But that provides no warrant to say that my specific cat is referred to here."
 

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