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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
farmerman
 
  4  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 06:50 am
@revelette1,
Nordstrom STock went UP ?.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 06:51 am
@farmerman,
It is known that HIV/AIDS denialism has the support from political conservatives in the United States. (Though I never really understood why it is so.)
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layman
 
  -3  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 06:52 am
@layman,
Quote:
In an interview the following day on KPCC 89.3’s Air Talk with Larry Mantle, De Léon expressed outrage that President Trump’s executive order would include those who possess fraudulent documents or committed identity theft to obtain a Social Security number.

[OUTRAGE, I TELLYA!]

De Léon replied: “I don’t think so … the vast majority of immigrants — hard working immigrants — have done that. I can tell you I have family members specifically who came here as undocumented immigrants, and they did the same thing. That’s what you need to do to survive in this economy.”

Mantle objected: “But of course the problem is, — and I know people too — who’ve had their Social Security numbers and identities stolen as a result of that….”

De Léon minimized the problem, saying it was not the same as “Russian” hacking.


http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/02/05/california-state-senate-leader-family-illegal-false-documents-deportation/

Jose and his homeboys seem to have gotten just a little too cozy with their criminal activity under Obama, eh?

They're outraged that they can't break the law with impunity anymore. They seem to think that, just because they run California, they have more power and authority than the U.S. President.

Fraid not, Federico.
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blatham
 
  4  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 06:53 am
@revelette1,
At least two other major clothing outlets have now removed all Ivanka's promotional materials and displays, moving her product into general racks.

Whether retail outlets or media or whomever gains Trump administration anger for doing stuff they don't like, the only available response is to ignore their crap and push back.

Bannon and Trump clearly want this war. They want to divide Americans in the most severe way we've ever seen in our lifetimes. No White House has ever behaved this way before.

People in media, particularly (and because it is their role to monitor those in political power) have had to rethink how they go about their operations precisely because of this strategy by this White House and by their constant spreading of blatant falsehoods. What is the proper response?

It can only be to stand up to it and keep informing the public as to what's going on. No other option is open.
blatham
 
  4  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 06:58 am
@farmerman,
Yes. And yet for our right wing geniuses presently attending, none of this represents any sort of a problem. Though they are, I expect, disappointed that Trump has been too busy watching Fox to get around to packing 8 million illegals into boxcars to ship to Mexico, a necessary policy now that Zyclon B is so darned hard to find in sufficient quantities.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 07:02 am
@blatham,
With all those positive posts here, I might have overseen that from no onwards guns will have a place in schools due to the threat from grizzly bears. And, of course, of other attacks with are unfortunately so common.


(Well, fake data suggests that it is extremely rare for American children to be killed at school for any reason, that school children are much more likely to be shot to death outside of school, in their homes or neighborhoods. School safety expert Dewey Cornell has calculated that the typical American school can expect to see a student homicide about once every 6,000 years. Just fake data. Period.)
blatham
 
  4  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 07:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Not just grizzlies, Walter. Also the wildebeests infected with AIDs in secret Soros-funded laboratories in Iran. But God will provide because He has a plan which involves flooding the coastal cities where sodomites, brainwashed by SpongeBob Square Pants, control the teachers' unions.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 07:18 am
@blatham,
Of course.But when God finally is replaced by Trump, the only problems will be the housing affordability in hell.
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layman
 
  -4  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 07:30 am
I guess these candyass retailers who try to cater to cheese-eaters are gunna start finding out that "boycotts" can work both ways, eh?

Quote:
Retail department store Nordstrom’s decision last week to cut first daughter Ivanka Trump’s fashion line has sparked a tremendous backlash from consumers—especially women—who say the company’s move has led them to boycott the store and cut up their Nordstrom’s cards.

A majority of millennial women, according to a study from BrandKeys highlighted by Forbes last year, are sticking with the Ivanka Trump brand even if they don’t support her father’s policies. Fifty-one percent of the millennial women surveyed said they were either “extremely likely” or “very likely” to purchase Ivanka Trump fashion products when asked: “In light of Ivanka Trump’s involvement with the Trump campaign for president, how likely would you be to consider buying her line of shoes or clothing?”

Another 32 percent added they were “somewhat likely,” meaning a total of 83 percent of millennial women still like Ivanka Trump’s line, even when considering her father’s presidential campaign and politics.

Fueling the fire against Nordstrom’s for the decision to drop Ivanka Trump’s line is a boycott from women all across the country. CNBC’s Berkeley Lovelace wrote on Wednesday. Lovelace’s piece notes that Nordstrom’s stock is seriously hurting this year overall, too: “With Wednesday’s drop, Nordstrom’s shares are down more than 10 percent year to date.”

“I’ve had enough of the pompous snobbery of the left and that it seeps through to our retail industry shows me a total lack of respect for the consumer and the patrons,” Wendy Burdette from Clifton, Virginia, said in an email. She said she plans to “shred” her Nordstrom’s card because he doesn’t “need” it anymore. "Nordstrom’s needs to figure out that their demographic is Christian women not snotty hoodlums wearing masks."
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layman
 
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Thu 9 Feb, 2017 07:47 am
Quote:
White House fires back at immigration order critics with list of terror arrests

U.S. District Judge James Robart, in questioning a Justice Department lawyer last week about the number of post-9/11 arrests of foreign nationals from those countries, incorrectly asserted: “Let me tell you … The answer to that is none...”

The White House moved Wednesday to counter critics who claim President Trump’s travel ban goes too far, circulating a list of terror cases involving suspects who came to the U.S. from the seven countries in question.

The list, obtained by Fox News, gave 24 examples of refugees and other immigrants from Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Syria and Libya who have been arrested on terror-related charges; most have been convicted.

The White House document itself names 10 individuals from Somalia, six from Iraq, one from Yemen, two from Sudan, two from Iran, two from Libya and one from Syria. The cases span the last eight years, and include most recently a case in June in which two Somali refugees were jailed for conspiring to commit murder in Syria on behalf of ISIS.

It also includes a case from March of last year, where a Yemeni native who became a U.S. citizen was sentenced to 22 years in prison for attempting to provide “material support” to ISIS and planning to shoot and kill members of the U.S. military who had returned from Iraq.
revelette1
 
  4  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 09:32 am
@layman,
If anything the list proves you don't need to ban Muslims from those countries, just use counter terrorism tools already set up which have been successful, thereby not violating the constitutional amendment by discrimination against persons for religious reasons.

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revelette1
 
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Thu 9 Feb, 2017 09:36 am
@farmerman,
I don't know, I don't keep up with the stock market. However, the reason they dropped her line was simply because her (Ivanka) clothing sales have been steadily slipping. Nothing personal, just business. Now it is personal because Trump made it so.
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blatham
 
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Thu 9 Feb, 2017 09:47 am
Quote:
Top Donald Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway used a Fox News appearance on Thursday morning to encourage people to buy items from Ivanka Trump's clothing and accessories line, just one day after the President slammed Nordstrom on Twitter for dropping it.

"Go buy Ivanka's stuff is what I would tell you," she said. "I hate shopping, I will go get some myself today."

"This is just a wonderful line," Conway continued. "I own some of it. I fully—I'm going to give a free commercial here. Go buy it today, everybody, you can find it online."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conway-plugging-ivanka-line-fox

Yeah, well that's all totally normal.
MontereyJack
 
  4  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 10:09 am
@blatham,
AND THIS IS NOT A CLEAR CASE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST BECAUSE...?
maporsche
 
  4  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 10:15 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

AND THIS IS NOT A CLEAR CASE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST BECAUSE...?


...because Trump won and you just need to stop crying and get over it?
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Baldimo
 
  -1  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 10:17 am
@layman,
You have to wonder how this might effect voting in the state and LA in general... They already show no fear in breaking the law to do what they want to do, what actually keeps them from voting at this point? Fake ID's that show them to be legal US residents or fake ID's used to get Green Cards. Shut it all down and start from scratch with all suspected GC holders. Start with that guys family and friends.
blatham
 
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Thu 9 Feb, 2017 10:20 am
@MontereyJack,
It's a violation of ethics rules for those on the government payroll. But there's a broader picture here. These people are not merely going to violate rules and norms in many spheres, they are going to violate those that would otherwise prevent them from milking the system for financial gain (which taxpayers will be on the hook for). This will be the most corrupt administration of our lifetimes, by far, and perhaps in US history.
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ossobucotemp
 
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Thu 9 Feb, 2017 10:31 am
@MontereyJack,
Blatham was being sardonic..
he often uses irony and sarcasm and is oft sardonic.
Via google, I need to reread the exact differences of those myself.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 10:32 am
@farmerman,
That sounds like the guy O J Simpson played in the Police Squad films.
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blatham
 
  5  
Thu 9 Feb, 2017 10:36 am
Each week, this ****-show gets worse.

Trump's first military action in Yemen goes wrong. A Seal team member is killed along with an 8 year old girl. An aircraft was lost as well. Yemen has apparently withdrawn permission for the US to run special ops against terrorists as one consequence.

Spicer insists the raid was a success and "well executed". He also said:
Quote:
The White House said Wednesday that anyone who questions the success of last week’s deadly U.S.-led raid in Yemen “owes an apology” to the Navy SEAL who was killed there. […]

Spicer said that “anyone who undermines the success of that raid owes an apology and [does] a disservice” to the life of Chief Petty Officer William “Ryan” Owens, who was killed in a firefight…. Spicer repeated his declaration that the Jan. 28 strike – which also left an 8-year-old girl and an unknown number of other civilians dead – was a “huge success.”

John McCain, after being briefed said, “When you lose a $75 million airplane and, more importantly, an American life is lost … I don’t believe you can call it a success.”

then Spicer suggested McCain was among those who should apologize for having done “disservice to the life of Chief Owens.”

Steve Benen lays out why this is all so incredibly fucked up:
Quote:
There are a few key angles to this that are worth keeping in mind. The first is the Trump World’s increasingly dangerous approach to dissent: to hear the White House tell it, to accurately characterize a failed mission is to dishonor the troops. This was a common rhetorical ploy in the Bush/Cheney era, and it’s just as offensive now as it was then. There’s simply no credible way for an administration to equate honest assessments on matters of national security with criticisms of the servicemen and women who do their duty.

Second is the stunning hypocrisy surrounding the partisan circumstances. In Republican circles, the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi was one of the single most important moment of the post-9/11 era, and criticisms of what transpired have been ubiquitous on the right for years. By Spicer’s standards, are those who question the deadly violence in Libya dishonoring the sacrifices of the four Americans who died there?

And finally, Donald Trump has spent a fair amount of time pretending to have opposed the war in Iraq from the beginning, denouncing it repeatedly as a failure. According to the president’s press secretary, it sounds like Trump is now supposed to apologize for having done a disservice to those who died while serving in the war.
Benen
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