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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 08:17 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
So you admit to posting that. The clown is not a medical doctor.

So what? You do not have to treat people to study disease. You are not to bright, are you?
Setanta
 
  4  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 08:19 pm
@coldjoint,
That's kinda funny . . . MJ usually refers to you as dimbulb. How apt.

You were careful about not precisely identifying your source, because you were trying to bullshit about his credentials.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 08:22 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
You were careful about not precisely identifying your source

I quoted the article. I say you talk to them. If you remember, which I doubt, the post started with the words "Another opinion".

Do you need a link to the post? Also what I said is true, you do not have to be a doctor to study disease.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 09:03 pm

Donald Trump Has Stake In Hydroxychloroquine Drugmaker: Report
The president has repeatedly touted the anti-malaria drug as a coronavirus treatment despite a lack of medical evidence.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-stake-company-hydroxychloroquine_n_5e8c41d7c5b6e1d10a696280

By Ron Dicker

President Donald Trump reportedly owns a stake in a company that produces hydroxychloroquine, the anti-malaria drug he has repeatedly touted as a coronavirus treatment even though his experts say there’s no strong evidence it works.

Trump “has a small personal financial interest” in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine, The New York Times reported Monday.

In addition, Sanofi’s largest shareholders include a mutual fund company run by major Republican donor Ken Fisher, the paper said. Trump’s three family trusts, as of last year, each had investments in a mutual fund whose largest holding was Sanofi, according to the Times. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross also had ties to the drugmaker, the Times reported.

Trump’s “assertiveness” in promoting the drug contrary to the recommendation of top health experts “has raised questions about his motives,” the Times noted.

The financial news site MarketWatch and The Washington Post later estimated Trump’s stake to be worth between about $100 and $1,500, though the Post noted his trusts may have amassed other investments since his most recent disclosure. “He does look to have more than that modest sum invested in Sanofi, because, unmentioned in the Times report, his trusts also hold broader European stock-market index funds,” MarketWatch pointed out.

A chorus of Trump supporters with no medical expertise have backed the president’s urging of doctors to treat COVID-19 patients with the drug, including his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and Fox News host Sean Hannity.

In the face of warnings from top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci that the drug’s safety and effectiveness are uncertain in treating COVID-19, Trump has continued to laud its supposed benefits.

“What do you have to lose?” he asked at a press briefing this week urging those sick with the virus to take the drug.

Turns out plenty.

“There could be deaths,” American Medical Association President Dr. Patrice Harris said. “This is a new virus, and so we should not be promoting any medication or drug for any disease that has not been proven and approved by the FDA.”

Generic drugmakers also are gearing up to produce hydroxychloroquine pills. One of those companies was co-founded by Trump golfing buddy Chirag Patel, according to the Times.

The White House didn’t immediately answer HuffPost’s request for comment.

John Dillard, a spokesperson for Fisher Investments, called the Times article a “false report” and said Sanofi “is neither a material holding of Fisher Investments nor of Ken Fisher personally.” He also took issue with the characterization of his boss as a Republican donor, saying Fisher also had contributed to Democrats in the past.
roger
 
  2  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 09:20 pm
@bobsal u1553115,

bobsal u1553115 wrote:

The financial news site MarketWatch and The Washington Post later estimated Trump’s stake to be worth between about $100 and $1,500, though the Post noted his trusts may have amassed other investments since his most recent disclosure. “He does look to have more than that modest sum invested in Sanofi, because, unmentioned in the Times report, his trusts also hold broader European stock-market index funds,” MarketWatch pointed out.

Oh, c'mon. Unless that's a misprint, $100 to $1,500 is a totally negligible sum. Not just for Trump, but for anyone investing in individual stocks. I'm no more a trump fan than anyone, but just isn't significant.
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Builder
 
  -1  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 09:27 pm
The W.H.O. under the spotlight for "going rogue".

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bobsal u1553115
 
  5  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 09:42 pm

Report: The Trump administration didn’t order ventilators or masks until mid-March

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/5/21208802/coronavirus-trump-ventilators-masks-march

The federal government’s delayed response to the coronavirus pandemic included failing to order lifesaving medical equipment in time for hospitals to use it.
By Alissa Wilkinson@[email protected] Apr 5, 2020, 4:50pm EDT
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President Donald Trump, in a navy suit and red tie, listens to officials at a press briefing, the American flag behind him.
President Trump’s administration didn’t order life-saving medical equipment until mid-March, new reports show. Win McNamee/Getty Images

In recent weeks, President Donald Trump has moved from dismissing the threat posed to Americans by the coronavirus to styling himself as a “wartime president.” But until mid-March, new reports reveal, he was planning to send the army into battle with only a fraction of the weapons and armor they’d need.

On Sunday, the Associated Press reported that the government largely failed to place bulk orders of N95 respirator masks, ventilators, and other medical equipment vital to those treating coronavirus patients until mid-March, according to federal purchasing contracts. The Washington Post reported that the Trump administration received its first briefing about the outbreak in China on January 3.

On March 12, the day before Trump finally declared a national emergency due to the pandemic, the Department of Health and Human Services placed its first bulk order with 3M for $4.8 million worth of N95 masks. Nine days later, when there were over 30,000 confirmed cases in the country, it placed a larger second order for $173 million. Those masks would be added to the national stockpile, which was created in 1999 in anticipation of potential effects from the Y2K computer bug and expanded following 9/11.

But, the AP reported, the mid-March contracts signed by the federal government and 3M don’t require the company to begin delivering the masks until the end of April — after the White House’s forecasts predict the pandemic will have peaked:

“We basically wasted two months,” Kathleen Sebelius, health and human services secretary during the Obama administration, told AP.

By March 31, according to the Trump administration, more than 11.6 million masks from the stockpile had been distributed to state and local governments. That represents about 90 percent of the stockpile at the start of 2020. According to HHS official Dr. Robert Kadlec’s congressional testimony in March, the US would need about 3.5 billion masks to get through the pandemic.

The stockpile also contains ventilators, machines that helps patients in serious condition breathe. At the beginning of March, the stockpile had 16,660 ventilators, some of which were nearly 20 years old, with 2,425 out for maintenance. On March 31, the White House said it had already distributed half of them.

The federal failure to order equipment until it was far too late to mitigate much of the damage is consistent with the denial and dysfunction that has plagued the administration’s response. And it has left other leaders scrambling to fill gaps, rather than coordinating to get aid to the parts of the country that need it the most.
States are scrambling to pick up the Trump administration’s slack

To understand the holes the federal government’s response has left for states to attempt to fill, look at what’s happening with ventilators.

On March 27, Trump pledged to ensure 100,000 ventilators would be available “within 100 days,” saying he’d use the Defense Production Act to order companies to step up production. That means they’d be available in late June, when experts project the virus will be past its peak in the US. And it’s unclear that it will happen; on April 2, FEMA officials said in a House Oversight and Reform Committee briefing that 100,000 ventilators would be available in late June “at the earliest.”

That delay has created dire situations in places like the state of New York, which has become an early epicenter of the outbreak, with more than 4,100 deaths and 122,000 confirmed coronavirus cases as of April 5.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said on April 3 that he anticipated his state alone needing up to 40,000 ventilators for coronavirus patients. FEMA has sent about 4,000 to the state, according to the New York Times. But Cuomo has said he’s essentially stopped assuming that the federal government will be able to help by distributing ventilators to New York from the stockpile. “I know that the ventilator ability is just a problem for everyone — you have 50 states competing for it, you have the federal government trying to buy it,” he said on April 2. “Our attitude here is we’re on our own.”

Because the White House’s strategy for distributing medical equipment and personal protective equipment, such as masks, gowns, and gloves, has been so varied, states have been pitted against one another as they bid for equipment on the open market — or they’ve been forced to take extraordinary measures to obtain equipment for hospitals in their states.

On April 4, Cuomo announced that the Chinese government was sending 1,000 ventilators to New York. Shortly after, he tweeted that Oregon Gov. Kate Brown was sending 140 more.

And Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker worked with Patriots owner Robert Kraft, the Chinese UN ambassador, and Chinese officials to ship 1.2 million masks to the state on the Patriots’ team plane. Baker said in a press conference on April 2 that Massachusetts had previously ordered 3 million masks that were seized by the federal government, so in order to “keep the Feds from finding out” about the masks and seizing them, he had to classify the trip as a “private humanitarian mission.”

Gregory F. Treverton, former chair of the National Intelligence Council, said in an April 4 Washington Post article detailing the extent of the federal dysfunction that “this has been a real blow to the sense that America was competent. That was part of our global role. Traditional friends and allies looked to us because they thought we could be competently called upon to work with them in a crisis. This has been the opposite of that.”
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snood
 
  4  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 10:44 pm
A direct quote from Dotard Trump’s explanation of how much testing we’re doing:

"That's one million eight hundred and seventy thousand million tests."
Builder
 
  -4  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 10:53 pm
@snood,
What a pathetic excuse for a commentator you are.

Post the very next line he said.

Now I can see why you didn't cite a link.

Nice try, but definitely no banana for you.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 10:55 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
What a pathetic excuse for a commentator you are.

OK, that commentator stuff is out of line. Mr. Green
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 11:04 pm
Quote:
IGs in Trump's Crosshairs: Watching the Watchdogs



Quote:
White House officials are taking a critical look at the records of several administration inspectors general, part of the cadre of internal agency watchdogs tasked with serving as the first line of defense against government malfeasance and corruption.

President Trump often refers to government waste as part of the Washington “swamp” he has vowed to drain – but the phrase has also become shorthand for bureaucratic resistance to his agenda and policies. Putting inspectors general, or IGs, under the microscope is the latest push in Trump’s post-impeachment purge of government officials whom the president and his conservative supporters say have worked to undermine his agenda and sabotage political appointees’ efforts to carry it out, several sources familiar with the discussions have told RealClearPolitics.

Trump is looking ahead, not behind. This gives him something to do in his next term.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/10/igs_in_trumps_crosshairs_watching_the_watchdogs__142617.html
MontereyJack
 
  4  
Tue 7 Apr, 2020 11:52 pm
@coldjoint,
If IGs do their jobs thoroughly and honestly, they tend to find trump and his administration fucked up. His political appointees have been among the biggest swamp-fillers in recent history. As we know, Trump makes his appointees swearpersonal loyalty to him, and IGs tend to look for the truth, which he can't stand. So he fires them . Good government demands he be voted out of office in November.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 8 Apr, 2020 12:33 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
If IGs do their jobs thoroughly and honestly,

There is no if. They are not doing their jobs honestly. Trump will change that.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Wed 8 Apr, 2020 12:42 am
@coldjoint,
they are doing their job honestly. Trump isn't and he hates it when he's found out and fires the one who's honest enough to say the emperor has no clothes.
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Builder
 
  -2  
Wed 8 Apr, 2020 04:37 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Trump will change that.


With all the changes he's made, I'm surprised he's still around.

Maybe it's true that the CIA can't raise the funds for a shooter.

Clinton probably gutted their funding, in her headlong dash for supremacy.

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snood
 
  5  
Wed 8 Apr, 2020 05:45 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

What a pathetic excuse for a commentator you are.

Post the very next line he said.

Now I can see why you didn't cite a link.

Nice try, but definitely no banana for you.


He corrected the stupid flub, but it was still funny - and sane people need to laugh at this dumpster fire of a “president”.

You’re impressed at his boast that we’re testing less than two million people after three months, in a population of over 350 million?

Now, that’s pathetic.

Builder
 
  -2  
Wed 8 Apr, 2020 05:52 am
@snood,
Quote:
You’re impressed at his boast that we’re testing less than two million people after three months, in a population of over 350 million?


I didn't hear that bit. I did hear some nonce saying that literally every American will have to be tested every day, and Billy Gates saying everyone will need an electronic pass (read chip in hand) to be part of his vision of future America.

Such visionaries, aren't they?

And the US of A's current population is 331,002,651 people, but I guess with all those Clinton-voting "extras" from over the border, things might be leaning more towards your guess.
snood
 
  2  
Wed 8 Apr, 2020 06:05 am
@Builder,
Two million out of 330 billion.

Can you comprehend that this is not a good ratio? Do you ascribe any responsibility for the pathetic rate of testing to your president?

Builder
 
  -2  
Wed 8 Apr, 2020 06:17 am
@snood,
Quote:
Two million out of 330 billion.


Dayum. You from another planet, man?

Quote:
Do you ascribe any responsibility for the pathetic rate of testing to your president?


Testamanet to the effectiveness of the fear and loathing campaign, that people with a vaping condition want testing.

Oh, and he's not our president. He is yours, though.
snood
 
  7  
Wed 8 Apr, 2020 06:28 am
@Builder,
I’ll answer my own questions.
No, you can’t comprehend that we are woefully behind in testing.
And no, you don’t place any blame whatsoever on your president.

For the record what he is to me is my idiot wanna-be dictator. He ain’t my goddamn president.

 

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