192
   

monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
oralloy
 
  -3  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 09:19 am
Progressives are really good at falsely accusing people. But they always run and hide when they are challenged to back up their claims.
0 Replies
 
hightor
 
  6  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 09:24 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
His attempts to undermine the President are clear evidence of leftist leanings.

No, they're not. But the fact that you prefer to defend Trump's ignorance and your clear admission that medical science undermines his position pretty much exposes you as nothing more than a shill.

Good bye.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 09:35 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
No, they're not.

I strongly disagree. Whenever you see someone trying to undermine the President while he is trying to save American lives, it's a sure bet that you're looking at a progressive.


hightor wrote:
But the fact that you prefer to defend Trump's ignorance and your clear admission that medical science undermines his position pretty much exposes you as nothing more than a shill.

Your ad hominem fallacy is a clear sign of your inability to contradict what I say.


hightor wrote:
Good bye.

I'll be ready with more facts when you feel you are ready to try again.
MontereyJack
 
  4  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 10:25 am
@oralloy,
hightor is right. you are not. as usual you try to claim wild-eved far right opinion is fact when it's not. trump's policies have been vague, incoherent, vacillating and contradictory as well as being unconscionably late and flat out false. he has consistently misrepresented what is being done to deal with the crisis. the medical and public health professionals are aghast at the hash he's making of the crisis, and we have no idea what theirpolitical leanings are, but we do know they're appalled.In short, trump has once again made it clear he's not the man for the job.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 10:40 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
hightor is right. you are not.

Funny how the only thing he has to offer in support of his claims is an ad hominem fallacy.


MontereyJack wrote:
as usual you try to claim wild-eved far right opinion is fact when it's not.

You cannot provide any examples of me ever doing any such thing.

Like a typical progressive, the only thing you can offer to support your claims is a barrage of ad hominem fallacies. You just make false accusations and then scurry away without backing up your claims.


MontereyJack wrote:
trump's policies have been vague, incoherent, vacillating and contradictory as well as being unconscionably late and flat out false.

That is incorrect. Our government is working to protect us from the virus despite all the progressive attempts to undermine the President.


MontereyJack wrote:
he has consistently misrepresented what is being done to deal with the crisis.

What he does is more important to me than what he says.


MontereyJack wrote:
the medical and public health professionals are aghast at the hash he's making of the crisis, and we have no idea what theirpolitical leanings are, but we do know they're appalled.

Another example of progressives claiming to speak for other people in their attempts to undermine the President in a time of crisis.


MontereyJack wrote:
In short, trump has once again made it clear he's not the man for the job.

Progressives always try to undermine the President when American lives are at stake.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 10:46 am
https://cdn.creators.com/1054/275228/275228_image.jpg
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 10:56 am
@oralloy,
as uaual, not a single truth in the entire post.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 10:58 am
@oralloy,
trump is ******* up the response to the crisis and that's entirely his fault. branco remains an idiot.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 11:11 am
@MontereyJack,
Wrong again. The President is working to protect us from the virus.

Meanwhile progressives are working to undermine him.
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 11:12 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
as uaual, not a single truth in the entire post.

Your failure to ever point out a single untrue thing in my posts speaks for itself.

You're just a typical progressive. You make false accusations and then you scurry away without backing up your claims.
0 Replies
 
blatham
 
  3  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 11:16 am
The wealthiest country in the world now has the highest number of covid infections in the world. USA! USA! USA!
Quote:
The missing six weeks: how Trump failed the biggest test of his life

The president was aware of the danger from the coronavirus – but a lack of leadership has created an emergency of epic proportions

hen the definitive history of the coronavirus pandemic is written, the date 20 January 2020 is certain to feature prominently. It was on that day that a 35-year-old man in Washington state, recently returned from visiting family in Wuhan in China, became the first person in the US to be diagnosed with the virus.

On the very same day, 5,000 miles away in Asia, the first confirmed case of Covid-19 was reported in South Korea. The confluence was striking, but there the similarities ended.

In the two months since that fateful day, the responses to coronavirus displayed by the US and South Korea have been polar opposites.

One country acted swiftly and aggressively to detect and isolate the virus, and by doing so has largely contained the crisis. The other country dithered and procrastinated, became mired in chaos and confusion, was distracted by the individual whims of its leader, and is now confronted by a health emergency of daunting proportions.

Within a week of its first confirmed case, South Korea’s disease control agency had summoned 20 private companies to the medical equivalent of a war-planning summit and told them to develop a test for the virus at lightning speed. A week after that, the first diagnostic test was approved and went into battle, identifying infected individuals who could then be quarantined to halt the advance of the disease.

Some 357,896 tests later, the country has more or less won the coronavirus war. On Friday only 91 new cases were reported in a country of more than 50 million.

The US response tells a different story. Two days after the first diagnosis in Washington state, Donald Trump went on air on CNBC and bragged: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

A week after that, the Wall Street Journal published an opinion article by two former top health policy officials within the Trump administration under the headline Act Now to Prevent an American Epidemic. Luciana Borio and Scott Gottlieb laid out a menu of what had to be done instantly to avert a massive health disaster.

Top of their to-do list: work with private industry to develop an “easy-to-use, rapid diagnostic test” – in other words, just what South Korea was doing.

It was not until 29 February, more than a month after the Journal article and almost six weeks after the first case of coronavirus was confirmed in the country that the Trump administration put that advice into practice. Laboratories and hospitals would finally be allowed to conduct their own Covid-19 tests to speed up the process.

Those missing four to six weeks are likely to go down in the definitive history as a cautionary tale of the potentially devastating consequences of failed political leadership. Today, 86,012 cases have been confirmed across the US, pushing the nation to the top of the world’s coronavirus league table – above even China.

More than a quarter of those cases are in New York City, now a global center of the coronavirus pandemic, with New Orleans also raising alarm. Nationally, 1,301 people have died.

Most worryingly, the curve of cases continues to rise precipitously, with no sign of the plateau that has spared South Korea.

“The US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous, failed effort,” Ron Klain, who spearheaded the fight against Ebola in 2014, told a Georgetown university panel recently. “What’s happened in Washington has been a fiasco of incredible proportions.”

Jeremy Konyndyk, who led the US government’s response to international disasters at USAid from 2013 to 2017, frames the past six weeks in strikingly similar terms. He told the Guardian: “We are witnessing in the United States one of the greatest failures of basic governance and basic leadership in modern times.”

In Konyndyk’s analysis, the White House had all the information it needed by the end of January to act decisively. Instead, Trump repeatedly played down the severity of the threat, blaming China for what he called the “Chinese virus” and insisting falsely that his partial travel bans on China and Europe were all it would take to contain the crisis...
more here
RABEL222
 
  1  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 11:27 am
@hightor,
A rather stupid shill.
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 11:34 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
The wealthiest country in the world now has the highest number of covid infections in the world. USA! USA! USA!

Nothing makes a progressive happier than the prospect of Americans dying.


the Guardian wrote:
When the definitive history of the coronavirus pandemic is written, the date 20 January 2020 is certain to feature prominently. It was on that day that a 35-year-old man in Washington state, recently returned from visiting family in Wuhan in China, became the first person in the US to be diagnosed with the virus.

Gosh. If only the Democrats hadn't been distracting the President by impeaching him on bogus charges.


the Guardian wrote:
It was not until 29 February, more than a month after the Journal article and almost six weeks after the first case of coronavirus was confirmed in the country that the Trump administration put that advice into practice. Laboratories and hospitals would finally be allowed to conduct their own Covid-19 tests to speed up the process.

Those missing four to six weeks are likely to go down in the definitive history as a cautionary tale of the potentially devastating consequences of failed political leadership.

Even by progressive standards, that narrative is dishonest. The CDC was working to establish a test all through that time.
0 Replies
 
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 12:10 pm
Who knew Trump's cabinet had a bible teacher? But if we had known, we'd have good reason to guess it would be some ******* lunatic like this guy.
Quote:
Trump Cabinet's Bible teacher says gays cause 'God's wrath' in COVID-19 blog post

Environmentalists and people with “depraved minds” are also igniting "God's wrath," according to Rev. Ralph Drollinger.

In a blog post titled “Is God Judging America Today?” a pastor who leads a weekly bible study group for members of President Donald Trump's Cabinet appeared to blame the coronavirus pandemic on several groups, including those who have “a proclivity toward lesbianism and homosexuality.”

America “is experiencing the consequential wrath of God,” the Rev. Ralph Drollinger wrote in a lengthy March 21 "Bible study" on his Capitol Ministries blog, which caused outrage among several national LGBTQ advocacy groups.

In addition to gays and lesbians, Drollinger — who The New York Times recently referred to as the Trump Cabinet's “shadow diplomat” — also laid blame on people with “depraved minds,” environmentalists and those who deny the existence of God for igniting "God's wrath."
link

Quote:
Drollinger is a conservative evangelical Christian who describes his belief that there should indeed be an "institutional" separation of Church and State, but that the Church should still "influence" the State.[18] He has also asked President Trump to use his presidency to turn the American government into a "benevolent dictatorship."[19] Drollinger is also on record as being anti-LGBTQ, anti-women's rights, anti-immigration (he supports family separation at the border), a climate change denier, and declaring Catholicism as "one of the primary false religions of the world."[20][21] In March 2020, Drollinger generated controversy when he linked corona virus with God's wrath and homosexuality.[22]
wikipedia
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 12:27 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Trump Cabinet's Bible teacher says gays cause 'God's wrath' in COVID-19 blog post

Trump has done nothing to hurt the gay community. The man you speak of is entitled to his opinion. There are a lot of people who think God is fed up with man's bullshit.
hightor
 
  4  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 12:31 pm
Quote:
The CDC was working to establish a test all through that time.

Notice how this character, who winces when correctly identified and labeled as a shill, lies persistently. It doesn't take six weeks to develop a test, especially when one was available from the WHO (the one that Trump said was a "bad test" — it isn't):

The CDC designed a flawed test for COVID-19, then took weeks to figure out a fix so state and local labs could use it.
Quote:
As the highly infectious coronavirus jumped from China to country after country in January and February, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lost valuable weeks that could have been used to track its possible spread in the United States because it insisted upon devising its own test.

The federal agency shunned the World Health Organization test guidelines used by other countries and set out to create a more complicated test of its own that could identify a range of similar viruses. But when it was sent to labs across the country in the first week of February, it didn’t work as expected. The CDC test correctly identified COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus. But in all but a handful of state labs, it falsely flagged the presence of the other viruses in harmless samples.

Note as well how this character is so quick to play the injured party ("someone used an ad hominem against me <sob, sob>") and yet can hardly get through a post without inventing strawmen who cheer at the deaths of USAmericans and then describing them as "progressives".
glitterbag
 
  3  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 12:31 pm
@coldjoint,
Yeah, and Dr. Josef Mengele was a medical visionary.
0 Replies
 
blatham
 
  1  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 12:33 pm
Fauci has just said that 100,000 or more Americans will die of the cononavirus. More than 2000 were dead as of yesterday.

But here's the real news for Americans!!!
Quote:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· 1h
Because the “Ratings” of my News Conferences etc. are so high, “Bachelor finale, Monday Night Football type numbers” according to the @nytimes, the Lamestream Media is going CRAZY. “Trump is reaching too many people, we must stop him.” said one lunatic. See you at 5:00 P.M.!


I really admire the intellect and moral compass of Republicans here who support this guy.



0 Replies
 
hightor
 
  0  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 12:40 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
The man you speak of is entitled to his opinion.

Is he entitled to immunity from criticism?
Quote:
There are a lot of people who think God is fed up with man's bullshit.

Why bring "God" into it? There are plenty of people who are fed up with man's bullshit.

coldjoint
 
  1  
Sun 29 Mar, 2020 12:49 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Is he entitled to immunity from criticism?

Did I say that?
Quote:
Why bring "God" into it? There are plenty of people who are fed up with man's bullshit.

God was already in it. Read Blatham's post.
 

Related Topics

Obama '08? - Discussion by sozobe
Let's get rid of the Electoral College - Discussion by Robert Gentel
McCain's VP: - Discussion by Cycloptichorn
Food Stamp Turkeys - Discussion by H2O MAN
The 2008 Democrat Convention - Discussion by Lash
McCain is blowing his election chances. - Discussion by McGentrix
Snowdon is a dummy - Discussion by cicerone imposter
TEA PARTY TO AMERICA: NOW WHAT?! - Discussion by farmerman
 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.43 seconds on 05/22/2024 at 09:59:56