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revelette3
 
  4  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 11:12 am
Quote:
At least Emperor Nero supposedly only fiddled while Rome burned; he didn’t tell the Romans that the fire was no big deal.

President Trump squandered two precious months trying to downplay the new coronavirus while attempting to talk up the stock market. We still have no idea how many Americans are infected, because the administration bungled diagnostics. As of a few days ago, South Korea had conducted up to 700 times more tests per capita than the United States.

Trump’s passivity will cost lives, but we can still make preparations before hospitals risk becoming overwhelmed by a pandemic that is both more contagious than the seasonal flu and apparently many times more lethal. Dr.
Tom Frieden, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warns that in a plausible worst-case scenario, this virus could kill more than one million Americans.

After speaking to epidemiologists and public health specialists, I have a list of a dozen practical steps that the president and other officials should take immediately, while there is time.

1. Invest in a huge rollout of free testing so that we know who is sick. The University of Washington set up a drive-through system so that certain people can be tested without contaminating a clinic; South Korea did the same. We urgently need “rapid tests” — offering results in minutes — and before long we will also desperately need tests to determine who has had the virus and now has immunity.

2. Cancel large gatherings in parts of the country where community transmission is occurring, as Gov. Jay Inslee has done in Washington State. Employers should encourage people to work from home where possible. Even with social distancing, more than one-third of Americans may eventually be infected (a worst case is that 70 percent become infected, as Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany has cautioned for her country).

But lives will be saved by flattening the curve so that infections grow more slowly. We are much better off if 100 million Americans contract the coronavirus over 18 months rather than over 18 weeks, and this also gives scientists the chance to test treatments and develop vaccines, and to see if warmer weather helps. South Korea’s experience suggests that aggressive measures, well short of China’s, do help.

3. Expand telemedicine so that patients can get medical advice while staying home. The aim is for people to NOT go to a doctor’s office or E.R. unless necessary.

4. Plan for hospitals to be overwhelmed, as happened in Wuhan, China, and in Iran and northern Italy. Epidemiological models suggest that by late April we could have millions of Americans infected, and the danger is that people with other ailments die for want of care in the chaos. Several epidemiologists suggest that we could easily see 100 million infections of the new coronavirus in the United States, of which 5 or 10 percent might require hospitalization and 1 percent might need a ventilator. That could mean almost one million people needing ventilators just for Covid-19, though not all at the same time, yet we have only about 72,000 full ventilators in the United States.

5. Cancel vacations of health workers, bring back retired doctors and nurses, and repurpose cardiologists and pediatricians to deal with a torrent of coronavirus patients — in expectation of record numbers of doctors out sick. We should prepare to allow military medics to assist in E.R.s as well.

6. Make nursing homes, assisted-living centers, homeless shelters, prisons and dialysis treatment centers safer, by encouraging use of personal protective equipment and limiting visitors.

7. Make plans in case first responders, such as firefighters and ambulance paramedics, become sick in large numbers. That may mean calling in the National Guard.

8. Ensure that as many people as possible have access to medical care. That means expanding Medicaid in remaining states, and establishing a mechanism so that no one needs to pay (including a co-pay or deductible) for testing for or treatment of Covid-19.

9. Congress should promptly pass legislation (shamefully stalled for the last 16 years) mandating paid sick leave for all workers.

10. Greatly step up production of personal protective equipment needed in hospitals. Some hospitals are already running short of N95 masks, and America’s emergency stockpile has only 12 million N95 masks — approximately a one-day supply for the country during an epidemic.

11. Prepare for public school students to attend classes remotely in parts of the country most affected. Researchers found that during the 1918 Spanish flu, cities that canceled schools and public gatherings — and did so early — fared better than other cities. Unfortunately, today at least six million American schoolchildren don’t have internet access at home; that may mean that schools hand out hotspots, and laptops to students without computers. A nonprofit called FirstBook is trying to send out six million books to low-income schools so that kids can at least read while at home.

12. Instead of bailing out airlines or cruise lines, make people in quarantine eligible for unemployment insurance and waive work requirements for benefit programs. Don’t let struggling families become homeless because they suddenly can’t make the rent or meet mortgage payments.

Enough with your fiddling, Mr. President. Let’s roll.


NYT
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Baldimo
 
  -2  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 11:13 am
@RABEL222,
There is no turnabout. I said Bobsal disappeared after the 2016 election, he denied it and tried to make personal attacks against me. I proved him a liar with his own "recent posts" page. So please explain how Bobsal lying is a turnabout?
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blatham
 
  4  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 11:13 am
Quote:
Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
1h
Trump tries to explain why UK is exempt from his European travel ban: "Its got the border. Its got very strong borders. And they're doing a very good job. They don't have much infection at this point." (The UK actually has among the highest numbers of COVID-19 cases in region.)

So, "borders" again. But the lie about UK rates is very easily disproven. He doesn't care. He still thinks he can lie his way through this. But he has no other tools aside from bullying and corruption so his imagination is limited to that range.

Is it possible that he and those around him are counting on maximal chaos and confusion - regardless of costs to the nation and its citizens - to lift him to retaining the WH? Real question.
revelette3
 
  4  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 11:17 am
@blatham,
If the President gets is, there are plenty of the best doctors and testing available to him. Unlike the rest of us.

Having said that:

Live updates: Brazilian official who met Trump and Pence at Mar-a-Lago tests positive for coronavirus
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 11:18 am
@blatham,
Quote:
(The UK actually has among the highest numbers of COVID-19 cases in region.)

Where is something that proves that claim? What region is he talking about? The UK is a country.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 11:21 am
@revelette3,
Quote:
If the President gets is, there are plenty of the best doctors and testing available to him.

Did Obama have the same? It is silly to say anything but our president should have the top doctors available to him. He is the president.
Quote:
Unlike the rest of us.

Maybe we should all be president? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 11:29 am
@revelette3,
Yes. I saw that just now. Keep a watch on Pence. If he is maintaining distance between himself and Trump, then it's possible that Pence facilitated that meeting.
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 11:32 am
Quote:
Something Weird Is Happening on Wall Street, and Not Just the Stock Sell-Off

A sinking feeling reminiscent of the global financial crisis, when all kinds of obscure markets went haywire.

Wednesday was an unsettling day on global financial markets, and not just because the stock market fell sharply enough to bring a decade-plus bull market to an end.

Underneath the headline numbers were a series of movements that don’t really make sense when lined up against one another. They amount to signs — not definitive, but worrying — that something is breaking down in the workings of the financial system, even if it’s not totally clear what that is just yet...
NYT
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 11:40 am
@coldjoint,
The difference being, of course, Biden never did that, and Trump lives to do that.

The reason you think its so funny is you know its not true.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 11:48 am


You'd think supporters of Donnie "Two Scoops" would remember their glass houses when chucking nothing burgers at Joe Biden.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 12:10 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Race baiting bullshit.
I didn't know that religion is a race in your opinion.

Are you saying that PEW research is bullshit in general or only this survey?
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 12:14 pm
@coldjoint,
When you two agree with each other, oralloy, it only confirms how completely right I am.
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Baldimo
 
  -2  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 12:17 pm
Quote:
In other words you don't have a ******* clue what you are talking about.

It would seem a liar doesn't know he has been busted for lying. Nov 2016- Aug 2019, no posts, MIA from the board...

Quote:
You do know everyone here including cold joint and his alter ego oralloy laugh like chimps on Nitrous every time you post. Didn't you ever wonder why they NEVER respond to your dismal **** posts????

The more you are exposed, the more personal you get.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 12:18 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Where is something that proves that claim?
You think that PM Johnson, the Department of Health and Social Care's Chief Scientific Adviser and the Chief Medical Officer, lied?
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 12:39 pm
Quote:
U.S. President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence had "almost no interaction" with a Brazilian government official they met in Florida last week who later tested positive for coronavirus and do not need to be tested
Reuters

They will be glad that they don't have to follow the rules here in Europe!
Sturgis
 
  4  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 01:15 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The fools fail to understand that it just takes one measly virus droplet to make them sick and given their age group (both over 60), quite possibly dead!

Since Nancy Pelosi is just after the V.P. in the line of succession, I suppose they must like her.
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izzythepush
 
  4  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 01:38 pm
Quote:
James Corden film delayed by 5 months due to coronavirus.


Finally, some good news.
Sturgis
 
  2  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 01:40 pm
@izzythepush,
Really good news would be if he vanished from t.v. screens!

bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 01:52 pm
@izzythepush,
<snicker>!
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Thu 12 Mar, 2020 01:52 pm
@Sturgis,
It's a lot better now he's no longer on the BBC.

I know that's cold comfort to you, but the **** he does over there still gets shown over here.
 

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