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hightor
 
  2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 05:19 am
@Builder,
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Obits and "thoughts and prayers" much?

Do I have to explain this to you as well? Previously, people would not publicly divulge the cause of death of a family member if it were addiction-related because of the stigma associated with it. This led many people to underestimate how common the problem is in our society. Alerting the community to the prevalence of the problem is considered a key measure in getting people to seek help.
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Doing something about the supply isn't rocket science.

Cross border narcotics shipments are thwarted regularly but much of the supply is domestic, either through the illegal distribution of prescription drugs or people manufacturing their own.

Go to bed.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 06:40 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Progressives don't have any real arguments to defend their ideology, so they fall back to misrepresenting other people's IQs.

what nonsense.

Why can't you provide any alternative explanation for why progressives misrepresent other people's IQs?
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 09:06 am
Some background on CDC Director Redfield.
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In the 1980s Redfield worked closely with W. Shepherd Smith, Jr. and his Christian organization, Americans for a Sound AIDS/HIV Policy, or ASAP. The group maintained that AIDS was “God’s judgment” against homosexuals, spread in an America weakened by single-parent households and loss of family values.

Redfield wrote the introduction to a 1990 book, “Christians in the Age of AIDS,” co-written by Smith, in which he denounced distribution of sterile needles to drug users and condoms to sexually active adults, and described anti-discrimination programs as the efforts of “false prophets.”
Digby
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Fil Albuquerque
 
  1  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 09:07 am
@oralloy,
I really don't understand the dichotomy. I have both progressive and conservative values. You should try a little bit of variety.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 09:07 am
@oralloy,
There is question of your self-reported intelligence because so many of your arguments seem monumentally dumb and illogical and the product of extreme bias rather than reason.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 09:55 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
There is question of your self-reported intelligence because so many of your arguments seem monumentally dumb and illogical and the product of extreme bias rather than reason.

My arguments only seem that way to progressives because progressives are delusional.

But more to the point, if progressives had any real arguments they would not be reduced to saying "Everything that I disagree with is stupid."

Instead, progressives would be able to present concrete arguments as to why something that they disagree with isn't true.

So I was correct to state that the root cause of it all is the fact that progressives have no real arguments with which to defend their ideology.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 09:59 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:
I really don't understand the dichotomy.

Well notice how it's almost always progressives who bring up the subject of intelligence?


Fil Albuquerque wrote:
I have both progressive and conservative values. You should try a little bit of variety.

I have some leftist values too. Thus my Gravatar image.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 02:28 pm
Quote:
Fauci Says Admin’s ‘Better Sense’ Of Coronavirus Is ‘Not Encouraging’

National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director Anthony Fauci added to the uncertainty surrounding the Trump administration’s handling of the coronavirus outbreak during Sunday morning TV interviews.

After telling MSNBC’s Chuck Todd that the administration is “getting a better sense as the days go by,” Fauci also said that “unfortunately that better sense is not encouraging” due to community spread and that there won’t be a “vaccine that’s deployable for at least a year to a year and a half.”

When asked by Todd about “the most realistic way this ends,” Fauci responded that “it’s probably going to be a combination of both” immunity where “it just stops catching” and a vaccine that “ends this.”
TPM
We need more hunching!
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 02:31 pm
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US Still Has the Lowest Per-Capital Coronavirus Rate of the 10 Countries With Most Cases Reported

Trump deserves the credit for that. His early travel ban on China is the reason that number is low.
https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/article/international/patrick-goodenough/us-still-has-lowest-capital-coronavirus-rate-10-countries
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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 02:31 pm
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Surgeon General and coronavirus task force member Jerome Adams struggled to justify the Trump administration’s claims that the coronavirus is contained during Sunday morning TV appearances.

When CNN’s Jake Tapper mentioned the influx of coronavirus case reports in the past 48 hours — citing cases in Pennsylvania, Indiana, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Nebraska, South Carolina, Hawaii, Utah, Kansas, Virginia, Missouri, Vermont and Washington D.C. — Adams responded that coronavirus is “absolutely” spreading.

Adams added that despite the administration initially having a “posture of containment,” it is now “shifting into a mitigation phase,” which he described as “helping communities understand, you’re going to see more cases” and “more deaths.”

After Adams insisted that there’s no need to panic, Tapper then asked him to respond to White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow’s and counselor Kellyanne Conway’s claims that the coronavirus is largely “contained.”

“Well, this is a novel virus. It’s a new situation. And the messaging, quite frankly, is hard,” Adams said, before saying that “the first thing you want to try to do is contain the virus” and that some parts of the country have contained it.
TPM
Sure, if your boss demands that lies come out of everyone's mouths. Makes it tougher, no question.
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 02:43 pm
If you don't want the covid numbers to go higher, the obvious solution is to be as slow as possible in providing testing kits that will raise those numbers.

As I noted two days ago, the total number of tests done in the US was some 3,500 while here, just in my province, over 2000 were done.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 02:51 pm
@blatham,
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and that some parts of the country have contained it.

You are saying that is a lie? How do you intend to prove it is? Did you bother to find out where it is contained?
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Sturgis
 
  2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 02:51 pm
@blatham,
Clearly, our medical system has an eye on saving money! After all, once the patient croaks, there's no reason to waste time and money on a test.


Another reason that the U.S. has such low testing totals (for Covid-19) would be lack of kits and refusal from the CDC to allow hundreds (maybe thousands) of local testing labs to get going on this.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 02:57 pm
@oralloy,
You pretend that all the arguments that show they are stupid don't exist. They do. they are.
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 03:04 pm
@Sturgis,
Quote:
Clearly, our medical system has an eye on saving money! After all, once the patient croaks, there's no reason to waste time and money on a test.

Another reason that the U.S. has such low testing totals (for Covid-19) would be lack of kits and refusal from the CDC to allow hundreds (maybe thousands) of local testing labs to get going on this.

Both paragraphs true. It shows the value of having business men running government. The right has such marvelous fixed ideas.
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Builder
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 03:35 pm
@hightor,
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Alerting the community to the prevalence of the problem is considered a key measure in getting people to seek help.


The sales of "legal" opiates are public record, so I'm not sure what you're banging on about now, but you do like to bang on.

Quote:
Cross border narcotics shipments are thwarted regularly but much of the supply is domestic, either through the illegal distribution of prescription drugs or people manufacturing their own.


Nobody is manufacturing opiates. Crystal meth, is not an opiate. The problem is legally available opiates. Get with the program, hippy. You're dreaming.

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The opioid epidemic (also known as the opioid crisis) refers to the extensive overuse of opioid drugs, both from medical prescriptions and from illegal sources. The epidemic began in the United States in the late 1990s, when opioids were being increasingly prescribed for pain management and resulted in a rise in opioid use throughout the subsequent years


source

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Go to bed.


See above. You can't even patch together a decent argument in the morning.
Setanta
 
  1  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 04:07 pm
@Builder,
Been living in a news vacuum, Tory? President Plump wants his wall, apart from narcissistic vanity, allegedly to stop the import of opiates from Mexico. That's both heroine and fentanyl manufactured in China. The Drug Enforcement Administration estimates that 90% of the drugs (as above and including cocaine) which cross the border from Mexico come through legal ports of entry, usually secreted in the chassis of cars and trucks. Educate yourself, Tory, and stop puking up conservative propaganda.
Builder
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 04:09 pm
@Setanta,
Don't you bother reading anything, Canucker?

Information quoted is from Wikipedia.

How's about you bang on their door, with your tripe?
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roger
 
  2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 04:14 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

If you don't want the covid numbers to go higher, the obvious solution is to be as slow as possible in providing testing kits that will raise those numbers.


Well? It's working, isn't it?
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 8 Mar, 2020 04:18 pm
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Nursing Home Hit by Coronavirus Says 70 Workers Are Sick
As a federal team arrived to help, a spokesman for the Kirkland, Wash., center said 70 staff members were out with symptoms that resembled coronavirus.
NYT
Pretty obvious consequences here. Those people go home to families. They go shopping. They visit friends.

Now, consider ramifications for health care workers everywhere
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Cheryl Lausch
@cheryllausch
Mar 6
I’m an older (57yr) RN. I lived through H1N1 & Avian flu. In hospital, clinic & public health units we were over prepared. Speaking out National Nurses United has stated alarm for our nurses. I am stunned by disregard & unpreparedness of this administration for coronavirus.
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