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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
georgeob1
 
  0  
Sun 16 Feb, 2020 05:04 pm
@blatham,
Any leader of most democratic countries must stand up to fairly constant criticism from opponents and media commentators throughout their terms of office. That requires an element of stability and endurance that most people don't possess or haven't yet been forced to deal with. Trump has seen a good deal more of that, some directed at his family, than have most other contemporary leaders. It's also true that, through his extravagant behavior, he excites some of it himself, and he often gives as much as he gets in that area. However, he has undeniably shown a level of endurance at least equal to his situation in life and certainly far greater than intellectual and emotional pipsqueaks such as like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, against whom you compared him.
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Glennn
 
  1  
Sun 16 Feb, 2020 09:15 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
the shooter was an average citizen. no gun for him either.

The point is that Bloomberg doesn't like the idea of someone stopping a shooter unless it's law enforcement doing the stopping. And so far, I get that you are in agreement with that kind of thinking.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 16 Feb, 2020 09:19 pm
Quote:

Campaign 2020
Bloomberg Takes Lead in New National Democratic Primary Poll

The nomination is being bought and Democrats do not care.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/bloomberg-takes-lead-in-new-national-democratic-primary-poll/
RABEL222
 
  4  
Sun 16 Feb, 2020 09:28 pm
@coldjoint,
I would much rather have 450 miles of border wall than what money the military had allotted to it. Something else Trump decided congress didn't have the right to allocate.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Sun 16 Feb, 2020 09:30 pm
@coldjoint,
Anybody who talks about Bloomberg as aradical authoritarian oligarch is such a wild-evyed idiot they don't deserve any credence. Anybody that bitches about Bloomberg buying an election in the face of trummp''s total lies, mudslinging, and amassing an unprecedently huge warchest is not to be taken seriously, just like all of joint's suspect cites.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 16 Feb, 2020 09:32 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
Something else Trump decided congress didn't have the right to allocate.

Congress did allocate the money. Trump used the emergency he declared to take it. All legal. Deal with it.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 04:27 am
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The Saudi-led coalition fighting in Yemen says it has begun judicial proceedings against military personnel suspected of violating international humanitarian law.

Spokesman Col Turki al-Maliki said judgements in the unspecified cases would be announced once reached.

UN experts have said the coalition may be responsible for war crimes.

They have also expressed concern about the independence of the unit set up by coalition to review alleged violations.

Yemen has been devastated by a conflict that escalated in March 2015, when the rebel Houthi movement seized control of much of the west of the country and forced President Abdrabbuh Mansour Hadi to flee abroad.

Alarmed by the rise of a group they believed to be backed militarily by Iran, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and seven other Arab states began a campaign aimed at restoring Mr Hadi's government.

The UN had verified the deaths of at least 7,500 civilians by September 2019, with most caused by coalition air strikes. A monitor group has estimated that the fighting has killed 100,000 people, including 12,000 civilians.

At a news conference in London on Wednesday, Col Maliki reaffirmed the "coalition's commitment to the provisions and rules of international humanitarian law and to holding violators of the rules of engagement and violators of international humanitarian law - if any - in accordance with the laws and regulations of each country in the coalition", according to the official Saudi Press Agency.

The coalition had sent "files of the results of investigations of incidents of presence of a mistake and violation of the rules of engagement to the concerned countries", he said, adding that "the judicial authorities have begun the procedures of the trial".

The SPA report did not name any of the incidents, but the Guardian newspaper reported that air crew faced courts martial over three attacks:

An air strike on Abs rural hospital in August 2016 that killed 19 people

An air strike on a wedding in Bani Qayis in April 2018 that left 20 dead

An air strike on a bus in Dahyan in August 2018 that killed at least 29 children

In September, the UN Group of Experts on Yemen said it had reasonable grounds to believe that individuals in Saudi-led coalition and Yemeni pro-government forces had conducted acts that may amount to war crimes, including:

Attacks using indirect-fire weapons and small arms fire in violation of the principle of distinction

Air strikes in violation of the principles of distinction, proportionality and precaution

Murder, torture, cruel or inhuman treatment, rape, outrages upon personal dignity, denial of fair trial, and enlisting children under the age of 15 or using them to participate actively in hostilities

The report accused Houthi rebels of carrying out acts that may amount to war crimes, including direct attacks against civilians and indiscriminate attacks, as well as murder, torture, hostage-taking and enlisting children.

The experts also said a review of the coalition's Joint Incidents Assessment Team (JIAT), set up by Saudi Arabia to review alleged violations, had raised "concerns as to the impartiality of its investigations and the thoroughness and credibility of its analysis and findings".

The JIAT's assessment of the targeting process was "particularly worrying, as it implies that an attack hitting a military target is legal, notwithstanding civilian casualties, hence ignoring the principle of proportionality", it added.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51488741
Builder
 
  -1  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 04:53 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
The Saudi-led coalition fighting in Yemen says it has begun judicial proceedings against military personnel suspected of violating international humanitarian law.


That's a bit rich, coming from those pricks.
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 05:41 am
@coldjoint,
Just another really stupid far right wing conspiracy theory, joint's meat and potatoes.
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 05:45 am
@coldjoint,
And his impregnable wall can be destroyed with a $100 reciprocating saw from Home Depot, and climbed with camouflageable ladders made out of cheap rebar. talk about another stupid promise trump made.. And the taxpayers must foot the bill for. If trump wants the porous wall so much, make him pay for it himself with all thercrooked money he made gouging people.
McGentrix
 
  -3  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 09:07 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

And his impregnable wall can be destroyed with a $100 reciprocating saw from Home Depot, and climbed with camouflageable ladders made out of cheap rebar. talk about another stupid promise trump made.. And the taxpayers must foot the bill for. If trump wants the porous wall so much, make him pay for it himself with all thercrooked money he made gouging people.


Well, if we could mount motion sensing M-60 turrets every couple hundred feet it would be much more secure. But, too many whiny liberals would complain. Instead, we get a wall.

A wall is better than nothing despite the fact that people can and will get around the wall. What is our solution?
Lash
 
  1  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 09:32 am
@MontereyJack,
If it was you and your kids being thrown up against walls because of what they looked like, you'd sing a different tune.

Bloomberg paid off the DNC to drop the rules that had jettisoned other legitimate candidates; Bloomberg has carpeted this country with slick commercials that say whatever he pleases while not having to be on stage answering the hard questions.

He believes in withdrawing healthcare from elderly cancer victims.

He makes Trump look better by comparison.

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hightor
 
  3  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 09:42 am
@McGentrix,
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What is our solution?

What do you think of having an array of electronic sensors and drone surveillance rather than an imposing physical barrier?
georgeob1
 
  -2  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 09:43 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

Anybody who talks about Bloomberg as aradical authoritarian oligarch is such a wild-evyed idiot they don't deserve any credence. Anybody that bitches about Bloomberg buying an election in the face of trummp''s total lies, mudslinging, and amassing an unprecedently huge warchest is not to be taken seriously, just like all of joint's suspect cites.


Those are some interesting, and totally unsupported, pronouncements that do indeed appear to be directly contradicted by obvious and well-known facts. Perhaps they are evidence of a closed mind, impervious to anything outside the domain of his prejudgments.
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 09:44 am
@hightor,
By the time someone arrived to identify, they would be gone and would also be set off by animals and such. A physical barrier represents the best speed bump. I think adding your solution would be beneficial.
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revelette3
 
  3  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 10:19 am
@Glennn,
MJ point was if the shooter didn't have a gun in the first place, no shooting would have occurred so it wouldn't matter who stopped the shooter. Most of these shooters get their guns in a legal way and are not criminals. If people were not allowed to carry their guns in public places, no one would have had a gun as law-abiding citizens following the law. Get it now?

Having better background checks would go a long way to having a better chance of keeping guns away from those who should not a gun in the first place. Those with mental issues which lend to violence or those with records of violence in their past. Also, making sure guns are not able to made into guns with the capability of shooting a mass amount of people in a few minutes would also help. Those are simple common-sense gun laws that I don't understand why anyone would object to them.
revelette3
 
  3  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 10:30 am
@MontereyJack,
Bloomberg has so much to live down, more is discovered, it seems, the more moderates began to look to him as an alternative if Biden was to go down. It's leaving us in a tight spot. I honestly don't want a Sander's presidency, but if he is the only viable person standing at the end of the day, I will support him over Trump. The same Bloomberg, but with Bloomberg, it will be a harder moral choice than Sanders. IMO.
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Glennn
 
  0  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 10:44 am
@revelette3,
Quote:

Having better background checks would go a long way to having a better chance of keeping guns away from those who should not a gun in the first place.

Maybe. I'm not opposed to background checks.
Quote:
Those with mental issues which lend to violence

Sure.
Quote:
Also, making sure guns are not able to made into guns with the capability of shooting a mass amount of people in a few minutes would also help.

Now how many incidents are you aware of in which someone converted a semiautomatic rifle into an automatic rifle, and went on a shooting spree?
Quote:
MJ point was if the shooter didn't have a gun in the first place, no shooting would have occurred so it wouldn't matter who stopped the shooter.

But it did matter who stopped the shooter. It mattered that the cops didn't stop the shooter because they could not have stopped the shooter. Get it now?

Your argument is that the shooter shouldn't have had a gun. Would your version of gun regulation have stopped the church shooter?
revelette3
 
  3  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 10:46 am
Justice Department alumni send a message to staff attorneys: Resist!
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revelette3
 
  4  
Mon 17 Feb, 2020 10:53 am
@Glennn,
Quote:
Your argument is that the shooter shouldn't have had a gun. Would your version of gun regulation have stopped the church shooter?


Yes if the shooter was a law-abiding citizen following the law about not bringing a gun to a public place, such as a church. What is so hard to understand about that?

If he wasn't a law-abiding citizen, that it is why I brought up background checks.

Most of the past mass shootings involved someone converting their legal gun into an illegal gun able to shoot like a machine gun or something of that sort.

Moreover, we shouldn't be allowed to buy any guns that shoot a mass amount of bullets in a few minutes.
 

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