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revelette3
 
  4  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 10:00 am
@oralloy,
Yes, it was. Period. I am done discussing this with you.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 10:01 am
@revelette3,
No. "Disagreeing with Democrats" is not wrongdoing.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 10:03 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Lindsey Graham is just such a hollow weasel.

Why? Does he run around quoting other people and yelling "Look everyone! I think what that guy over there thinks!"??
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 10:12 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
That's true. But calling Warren "Pocohontas", referring to Biden as "Sleepy Joe", and saying that Buttigieg resembles Alfred E. Neuman aren't in the same league.

You're not seriously thinking they'll stop there, are you? Expect to see Biden portrayed as a pro-segregationist manic sniffer of women who fathered a crook; Buttigieg as a child rapist; and Warren as a compulsive liar. It will be far uglier than "Pocohontas"...
blatham
 
  1  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 10:17 am
@revelette3,
Quote:
I must be slow, I am beginning to think Graham is an idiot.
The thing is though, he's not. He's a smart guy. I've heard him (years ago) in debates and discussions and he was informed and agile of mind.

Which is why his behavior over the last decade has been so weird. And not just weird, but deeply debased.
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blatham
 
  2  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 10:18 am
Seriously. WTF?!
Quote:
Chris Sommerfeldt
@C_Sommerfeldt
· 2h
Woke up a bit ago to some angry texts from Rudy Giuliani.

He's pissed Dems aren't considering calling him as a witness and says "they are afraid of my physical presence."

"Why do they want Bolton if not me," he says. "Again I really should stop wasting my time." #impeachment
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hightor
 
  4  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 10:23 am
@Olivier5,
Still easier to shed than images of Sanders at a Sandinista rally with the crowd chanting, “Here There and Everywhere/ The Yankee Will Die.” Those pictures speak the truth even if Trump never does.

(It would be a selling point for me. It also indicates that his ambition to run for president is relatively recent — a calculating politician would have never attended a rally like that or praised the Soviet state.)
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 10:30 am
@hightor,
That wouldn't be a problem over here. I thought everyone supported the Sandinistas, I certainly did.



Oh! Mama, Mama look there
Your children are playing in that street again
Don't you know what happened down there?
A youth of fourteen got shot down there
The Kokane guns of Jamdown town
The killing clowns, the blood money men
Are shooting those Washington bullets again

As every cell in Chile will tell
The cries of the tortured men
Remember Allende and the days before
Before the army came
Please remember Víctor Jara, in the Santiago stadium
Es verdad, those Washington bullets again

And in the Bay of Pigs in 1961
Havana fought the playboy in the Cuban sun
For Castro is a colour is a redder than red
Those Washington bullets want Castro dead
For Castro is the colour
That will earn you a spray of lead

Sandinista

For the very first time ever
When they had a revolution in Nicaragua
There was no interference from America
Human rights in America
The people fought the leader and up he flew
With no Washington bullets what else could he do?



Sandinista

An' if you can find a Afghan rebel
That the Moscow bullets missed
Ask him what he thinks of voting communist
Ask the Dalai Lama in the hills of Tibet
How many monks did the Chinese get?
In a war torn swamp stop any mercenary
An' check the British bullets in his armory

Sandinista
¿Qué?
oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 10:44 am
@izzythepush,
Americans are the good guys. We supported the Contra freedom fighters.
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hightor
 
  1  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 10:51 am
@izzythepush,
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 11:31 am
Quote:
South African mining tycoon Patrice Motsepe has apologised for telling US President Donald Trump that Africans love him.

The billionaire made the statement following a backlash, with critics saying he had no right to assume the role of Africa's spokesman.

"I have a duty to listen to these differing views and would like to apologise," Mr Motsepe said.

He had praised Mr Trump at a dinner in Davos, Switzerland.

"Africa loves America. Africa loves you... We want America to do well. We want you to do well," the tycoon told Mr Trump at the World Economic Forum event earlier this month.

South Africa's opposition Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) said Mr Motsepe had been motivated by "selfish business interests".

"Motsepe's statement is an insult to the African-Americans who have been directly affected by Trump's racism," the EFF said at the time.

Mr Motsepe said his comments to the US president were partly aimed at encouraging discussions between the Trump administration and African political and business leaders because of the perception "that South Africa and some African countries are anti-America and its political leadership".

"This perception has had an impact on our ability to attract foreign investments and create jobs," he said in a statement.

His comments had triggered a "lively, diverse and at times emotional debate", exposing him to the views of Africans who disagreed with him.

"I do not have the right to speak on behalf of anybody except myself," Mr Motsepe added.

Mr Motsepe, 57, is one of South Africa's most influential businessman and is close to President Cyril Ramaphosa.

Forbes magazine listed him in 2008 as a billionaire and said he had become the first black African on its list of the world's wealthiest people. It estimates his current wealth at $2.4bn (£1.85bn).

At the dinner, Mr Motsepe told Mr Trump it was an honour to meet him as they were both listed in a 2017 Forbes magazine profile of the Greatest Living Business Minds.

"You're doing a good job," Mr Trump replied.

A video of the event was widely shared on Twitter:

A poll published earlier this month by the US-based Pew Research Center found that while people in most countries had low confidence in Mr Trump to do the right thing in world affairs, he garnered 65% support in Kenya and 58% in Nigeria.

South Africa, the only other country from sub-Saharan Africa to be included in the poll, recorded 42% confidence in Mr Trump.

The US president is yet to visit Africa and has made comments that have disparaged the continent.

In 2018, he denied that he was racist, after a row broke out over his alleged use of the word "shithole" to describe African nations.

The African Union later demanded that Mr Trump apologise for his "clearly racist" remarks.

But days after Mr Trump's reported comment Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni said in a speech: "I love Trump, he tells Africans frankly. The Africans need to solve their problems."

He recently raised eyebrows on the continent for suggesting that he, not Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed, deserved to win the 2019 Nobel Peace Prize.

Last year, the American leader told four US congresswomen to go back to the "crime infested places from which they came".

The women were all born in the US apart from Ilhan Omar, who was born in Somalia and moved to the US as a child.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-51282852
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hightor
 
  6  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 12:13 pm
'I believe John Bolton': Former Trump chief of staff John Kelly backs Bolton in Ukraine dispute
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 12:45 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
'I believe John Bolton': Former Trump chief of staff John Kelly

Three names there. Two of them are not the president. The president controls foreign policy. Period.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 12:59 pm
@coldjoint,
False. Congress does too.
revelette3
 
  1  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 01:07 pm
Trump Defense Finale Puts GOP Near Moment of Reckoning on Bolton
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 01:12 pm
@hightor,
In any case, attacks from the Trump campaign will be ugly and relentless, and speculating about which dem candidate will have less or more exposure or liability to those attacks seems hazardous to me. Not useless in forming one's judgment about a candidate, but a bit on thin ice.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 01:20 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
False. Congress does too.

Congress controls the money for foreign aid, not policy.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 01:24 pm
@coldjoint,
Yep. It also sets policy
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 01:25 pm
https://i.imgur.com/T4QhInL.jpg
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 28 Jan, 2020 01:27 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Yep. It also sets policy

Wrong, it approves of policy or not.
 

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