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hightor
 
  2  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 12:30 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
And that makes them different than MSNBC or CNN?

Yes. They're more likely to run a story and "spin" it. Fox actively suppresses stories which run counter to the ideology of its audience because when the news is bad for Trump the Fox audience stops viewing. It's all about keeping the ratings high and the ad money flowing in.
blatham
 
  3  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 12:39 pm
Jon Chait has a great piece up on the Republicans' hair-on-fire response to Schiff noting the CBS report on Trump threatening GOP senators heads if they vote contrary to his desires.
Quote:
...It is certainly not as if the line Schiff quoted pushed the known contours of Trumpian behavior. This is an administration that delights in bullying Republicans and intimidating internal dissent. Trump has openly driven Republicans who criticize his behavior, like Bob Corker, Jeff Flake and Justin Amash, out of the party, boasting that he has ended their careers.

What’s more, the broader notion that Republicans Senators are simply afraid to admit Trump acted inappropriately in the Ukraine scandal is widely understood within the party. Even the stalwart Trump defender Brit Hume conceded this month that most Republicans already believe Trump is lying about Ukraine, even if they won’t say so. Conservative writer Jonah Goldberg notes that a huge number of Republicans privately believe Trump pressured Ukraine to smear his rivals, but that the offense simply does not rise to the level of justifying removal. “[M]any of the lawyers and pundits who carry water for the president in public will concede in private that what Trump did was wrong — either legally, constitutionally, politically, or all three,” he reports, “I can’t tell you how many Republican senators and Congressmen I’ve talked to — away from a microphone or television camera — who will concede this basic point, even if they have a wide array of views on the wisdom of impeaching the president or the way the impeachment process worked.”

Schiff’s broader point — that many if not most Republican officeholders know Trump did something wrong, but are afraid to say so out of fear of retribution — is broadly understood within the party...

As I pointed out several days ago, it was entirely predictable that this sort of presentation of enraged indignation would be the main aspect of their response, as it was with Kavanaugh and as it was in the House investigation.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 12:41 pm
@coldjoint,
yes it does.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 12:57 pm
@blatham,
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By both context and character, he's a sociopath.

You do not have the qualifications or the personal experience to say such a thing. Your context and character is nothing to write home about. And there is proof of that.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 12:58 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
yes it does.

I would ask you how, but you have no idea, do you?
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 01:17 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Fox actively suppresses stories which run counter to the ideology

All you have to do is prove that. Can you describe Fox's ideology?
hightor
 
  3  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 02:08 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:

All you have to do is prove that.

https://able2know.org/topic/355218-3992#post-6952898
Quote:
Can you describe Fox's ideology?

It's the same as yours.


Setanta
 
  5  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 02:20 pm
From the fat boy in the white House:

US President Donald Trump once left Prime Minister Narendra Modi shocked and concerned by telling him India and China didn't share a border, a new book by two Pulitzer-winning journalists claims.

"It's not like you've got China on your border," Trump told Modi, and the Indian premier's eyes "bulged out in surprise", Washington Post journalists Phillip Rucker and Carol Leonning report in A Very Stable Genius, according to the US newspaper.

That book has got to be a hoot.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 02:28 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
Washington Post journalists

No credibility when it comes to Trump.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 02:37 pm
@revelette3,
The Turkish Empire was carved up by the British and French after WW2.

Tiny oil rich kingdoms are a consequence of that.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 02:39 pm
@izzythepush,

Quote:
The Turkish Empire was carved up by the British and French after WW2.

Tiny oil rich kingdoms are a consequence of that.

Then stop blaming America. Thanks.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 02:42 pm
@hightor,
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It's the same as yours.

That is an assumption, not proof.
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Builder
 
  -3  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 03:06 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Then stop blaming America. Thanks.


The Balfour declaration was drawn up to appease wealthy Jews, and they took over America, as well.

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blatham
 
  3  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 03:12 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
"It's not like you've got China on your border,"

I do not envy anyone who might set out to list all the idiocies this under-educated dipshit has publicly voiced. But of course windmills do cause cancer.
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revelette3
 
  3  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 03:40 pm
@izzythepush,
I could spend years devoted entirely to the study of the ME and never understand it. I envy your knowledge of it. I might try and find out what the protest was about, who they are and what they wanted just to satisfy my own curiosity.
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blatham
 
  3  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 04:01 pm
Quote:
Kevin McCarthy
@GOPLeader
Who were Democrats trying to persuade with their weak case?

Not the Senate. Not the American people. They treat both with contempt.

Their only target audience for impeachment is the radical left-wing of their party.
This sort of statement from TrumpWorld happen far too often to be merely projection.

I think it is a conscious gaslighting strategy - Whatever you are guilty of (or are credibly accused of being guilty of) becomes the way you describe your opposition.
oralloy
 
  1  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 04:07 pm
@blatham,
That tweet is an accurate description of the behavior of Democratic leaders. They clearly have no case that the President has committed actual wrongdoing here. The Democrats are just abusing their power to satisfy their extremist base.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 04:09 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Whatever you are guilty of (or are credibly accused of being guilty of) becomes the way you describe your opposition.

That is enough rope. A comment like that from you means nothing. Your constant negative propaganda is clear to everyone as exactly what it is.
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Builder
 
  1  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 04:18 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
The Democrats are just abusing their power to satisfy their extremist base.


The exposure of their crimes is imminent. The fear is in their faces.
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blatham
 
  3  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 04:32 pm
Golly goodness. It appears Trump has been dishonest.
Quote:
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump inquired how long Ukraine would be able to resist Russian aggression without U.S. assistance during a 2018 meeting with donors that included the indicted associates of his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.

“How long would they last in a fight with Russia?” Trump is heard asking in the audio portion of a video recording, moments before he calls for the firing of U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. She was removed a year later after a campaign to discredit her by Giuliani and others, an action that is part of Democrats’ case arguing for the removal of the president in his Senate impeachment trial.

A video recording of the entire 80-minute dinner at the Trump Hotel in Washington was obtained Saturday by The Associated Press. Excerpts were first published Friday by ABC News. People can be seen in only some portions of the recording.

The recording contradicts the president’s statements that he did not know the Giuliani associates Lev Parnas or Igor Fruman, key figures in the investigation who were indicted last year on campaign finance charges. The recording came to light as Democrats continued to press for witnesses and other evidence to be considered during the impeachment trial...
AP more here
 

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