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BillW
 
  2  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 07:49 pm
@neptuneblue,
New FOIA documents shows that tRump and the White House are guilty of illegally withholding Ukrainian aid:
Quote:
DAMNING NEW EMAILS SHOW TRUMP KNEW HE WAS BREAKING THE LAW ON UKRAINE

Oh, and that the Department of Justice tried very hard to cover it up.

Of the two dozen different defenses and counting that Donald Trump’s allies have trotted out re: why he shouldn’t be impeached for attempting to extort Ukraine, the one most frequently cited is that the freeze on nearly $400 million in military aid in exchange for investigations is much ado about nothing because said aid was ultimately released—no harm, no foul, everyone can go home. That, of course, is a lot like arguing that a mafia don didn’t do anything wrong in ordering the murder of a snitch, if all he did was send his capos to break the guy’s kneecaps, tie to him to a chair, cut off his ring finger and utter the words “we’re gonna kill you and your whole family,” if the guy happened to make it out alive after the cops showed up at the abandoned warehouse. The ring finger is just ornamental! He’s still got both pinkies!

The other problem with this defense is that it appears quite-to-very likely that the only reason the aid was eventually released was because Adam Schiff sent a letter concerning the existence of the whistle-blower complaint, which preceded the unfreezing by just one day. Also, in November we learned that the Office of Management and Budget and acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney scrambled to come up with an after-the-fact justification for the hold, which they insisted was legal, despite pushback from officials at the State Department and National Security Council who thought otherwise. Oh, and then there are the unredacted emails, the existence of which was reported by Just Security’s Kate Brannen on Thursday, which show that Trump knew the freeze was considered illegal but pressed for it anyway. And just to top things off, the transparent attempt by the Justice Department to cover up the concern from the Pentagon about the whole breaking-of-the-law thing.

Per the Washington Post:

The emails were previously released in redacted form, but many of the redaction choices are puzzling and even suspicious. The redactions include repeated references to legal problems with withholding the aid, basic questions about that subject, and warnings that waiting until too late in the fiscal year (which ended Sept. 30) might mean that some of the funds would never get to Ukraine.

That latter fact appears to have been doubly obscured—including in an official communication. OMB general counsel Mark Paoletta wrote a letter to the Government Accountability Office on Dec. 11 that suggested that the Defense Department had not flagged such a risk. “In fact, at no point during the pause in obligations did DOD [Office of General Counsel] indicate to OMB that, as a matter of law, the apportionments would prevent DOD from being able to obligate the funds before the end of the fiscal year,” Paoletta wrote.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01/donald-trump-ukraine-aid-emails

Will there be new Impeachment charges brought against the mobster-in-charge (Donnie theRump, if you can't remember); making him the 1st resident of the WH to be Impeached twice?
BillW
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 08:00 pm
Quote:
Iraqi TV Reports Strike Kills Powerful Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander

The death of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani was reported in Iraqi and Lebanese official media.

By Falih Hassan and Alissa J. Rubin
Jan. 2, 2020
Updated 8:42 p.m. ET

BAGHDAD — Iraqi state television reported Friday that the powerful commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps, Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, was killed in a strike on the Baghdad International Airport early Friday.

Iranian and American officials have not confirmed the death of General Suleimani.

The strike killed five people, including the pro-Iranian chief of an umbrella group for Iraqi militias, Iraqi television reported and militia officials confirmed. The militia chief, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, was a strongly pro-Iranian figure.

The public relations chief for the umbrella group, the Popular Mobilization Forces in Iraq, Mohammed Ridha Jabri, was killed as well.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/world/middleeast/qassem-soleimani-iraq-iran-attack.html
oralloy
 
  0  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 08:09 pm
@BillW,
Quote:
WASHINGTON -- The United States military will pre-emptively strike Iranian-backed forces in Iraq and Syria if there are indications the paramilitary groups are planning more attacks against American bases and personnel in the region, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said Thursday.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/after-assault-on-embassy-us-vows-to-preemptively-strike-militias-backed-by-iran/ar-BBYz1iV
http://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/world/middleeast/iraq-embassy-attack.html

The NYT version might be behind a paywall.

I think (but didn't check too closely) it's the same article at either link. It's the same story anyway.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 08:11 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
using depleted uranium

Just clean up the area surrounding each destroyed tank and all should be good.

If a tank was destroyed in the deep desert probably no real need for even that.
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BillW
 
  2  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 09:57 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

Quote:
Iraqi TV Reports Strike Kills Powerful Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander

The death of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani was reported in Iraqi and Lebanese official media.


The strike killed five people, including the pro-Iranian chief of an umbrella group for Iraqi militias, Iraqi television reported and militia officials confirmed. The militia chief, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, was a strongly pro-Iranian figure.

The public relations chief for the umbrella group, the Popular Mobilization Forces in Iraq, Mohammed Ridha Jabri, was killed as well.

Tactical victory, strategic screwup.........
Builder
 
  0  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 05:21 am
@BillW,
Quote:
......{snip} making him the 1st resident of the WH to be Impeached twice?


Until we all get to read the charges, he hasn't been impeached at all, William.

And if Obama had "taken out" that Iranian dude, you'd be dancing in the streets.

See how that works? (naaah, didn't think so)

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hightor
 
  2  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 06:19 am
Humanity can’t recycle its way out of consumption problems
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 06:20 am
Liberty Bell Notes From All Over
Quote:
Republicans call for overturning Roe v. Wade in Supreme Court filing
As the election year starts, over 200 lawmakers are taking an ideological stand against abortion.
Vox

Nothing says "liberty!" so much as forcing all citizens to abide by a particular religious orthodoxy.
revelette3
 
  3  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 11:05 am
@BillW,
Quote:
Tactical victory, strategic screwup.


It scares me to death, the action was tantamount to an act of war. With Iran involved, it is scary. This will unforeseen events happening all over the Middle East because of it. Not to mention opening up another reason for terrorist attacks.

For a guy who campaigned on getting us out of costly unending wars, he sure has made a mess of it.
revelette3
 
  2  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 11:09 am
@BillW,
Oh, I imagine with the latest war action, this will be ignored and be yesterday's news. No one in the senate will take it seriously even though at long last it is the smoking gun they needed in the impeachment hearing.
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revelette3
 
  2  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 11:12 am
@blatham,
The only bright spot on the conservative supreme court is Roberts and he can't always be counted up to act in a balanced way strictly going by the laws and not partisan ideology, but sometimes... he can surprise.
Baldimo
 
  0  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 11:14 am
@revelette3,
Quote:
It scares me to death, the action was tantamount to an act of war.

It wasn't an act of war to help kill American military members over the last almost 20 years? It wasn't an act of war to plant mines on foreign ships and try and blow them up? Tell me exactly what you think Iran has done right in regards to the US over the last 15 years?

Quote:
With Iran involved, it is scary.

It's scary to think Iran has been trying to blow up ships in the Gulf earlier this year. Did you think that was scary or did Iran have a right to blow up those ships?

Quote:
This will unforeseen events happening all over the Middle East because of it.

There have been events happening in the ME all year, the MSM chose to largely ignore them and even tried to blame the US for those mines being planted. That's how much the MSM hates Trump, they will cover the crimes up of Iran to make it seem what we did was unprovoked.

Quote:
Not to mention opening up another reason for terrorist attacks.

So you think we should lay on our backs and expose our bellies to Iran so that they don't encourage more acts of terrorism in the ME? Give Iran what they want or face bombers here in the US?
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BillW
 
  3  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 11:27 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Liberty Bell Notes From All Over

Nothing says "liberty!" so much as forcing all citizens to abide by a particular religious orthodoxy.

It's called "Sharia" Law.......
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BillW
 
  4  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 11:29 am
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:

Quote:
Tactical victory, strategic screwup.


It scares me to death, the action was tantamount to an act of war. With Iran involved, it is scary. This will unforeseen events happening all over the Middle East because of it. Not to mention opening up another reason for terrorist attacks.

For a guy who campaigned on getting us out of costly unending wars, he sure has made a mess of it.

Exactly, tactics are the short term and strategic is the long. This is scary and stupid!
georgeob1
 
  2  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 11:29 am
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:

Quote:
Tactical victory, strategic screwup.


It scares me to death, the action was tantamount to an act of war. With Iran involved, it is scary. This will unforeseen events happening all over the Middle East because of it. Not to mention opening up another reason for terrorist attacks.

For a guy who campaigned on getting us out of costly unending wars, he sure has made a mess of it.

The contrast with our sappy response to the Bengasi attack that killed our Ambassador and some others is fairly stark. It is noteworthy that civil war and discord have continued in Libya since then.

Iran is suffering significant economic difficulty as a result of the continuing effect of the sanctions Trump applied some months ago. This exacerbates the general public dissatisfaction with the government among the Iranian people that has been growing for the past four years, (which Obama merely ignored), and which led to widespread demonstrations across the country and violent repression by the Islamic government. Overall the Iranian government is in a weakened condition, with a weak economy and the risk of further public uprisings. It has few cards to play
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 01:32 pm
Quote:
Levin: Trump Didn’t Have to Alert Democrats of Airstrike – Especially When They’re ‘Orchestrating a Coup’

Quote:
Levin explains that President Trump not only has the authority to authorize such military strikes, but also has little reason to do so, considering how Democrats, such as those in the House Intelligence Committee, are actively seeking to effect a coup against him and leaking information that endangers U.S military personnel:

“Trump didn’t confer with Congress? Uh, Congress has been on recess. Moreover, the House Intelligence Committee has spent months orchestrating a coup against our president rather than doing its job protecting America from, among others, the terrorist regime in Iran.

But a president is not required to alert Congress to a real-time defensive military action. So Pelosi and her ilk can leak and put the military action at risk? These Democrats are undermining our security. We were attacked by the Iranian regime.”

https://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/levin-trump-didnt-have-alert-democrats-airstrike-especially-when-theyre
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revelette3
 
  3  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 01:35 pm
@georgeob1,
We'll see down the line how this plays out. For all our sakes, innocents over in region and us the US, I hope more diplomatic means are deployed, but given the reactions thus far, I admit, I am scared for the long haul.
BillRM
 
  4  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 01:50 pm
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:

We'll see down the line how this plays out. For all our sakes, innocents over in region and us the US, I hope more diplomatic means are deployed, but given the reactions thus far, I admit, I am scared for the long haul.


If the US government is declaring that high officers of other nations governments can be kill in a third nation of all places that mean that we would have zero grounds to complain if our high government officers even at cabinet levels are killed off.

Going to be interesting thanks to Trump and crew as our protections for high officers are not design to deal with nation state level of attacks.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 01:57 pm
@BillRM,

Quote:
If the US government is declaring that high officers of other nations governments can be kill in a third nation

You are apologizing for terrorists. I do not care what position they hold in any government, and either does Trump.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 3 Jan, 2020 02:10 pm
From 2015.
Quote:
Obama launches 2,800 strikes on Iraq, Syria without congressional approval

The continuing saga of Trump unable to do what other presidents have done. Hypocrites, liars and dividers.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/27/congress-still-not-specifically-authorizing-islami/
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