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coldjoint
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:00 am
@blatham,
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This is not a problem we have in Canada with our single-payer system.

No the problem is living long enough to get the treatment you need. Our hospitals are full of Canadians.
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georgeob1
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:02 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

This is not a problem we have in Canada with our single-payer system.

Probably true. All the doctors & service providers get paid at government fixed rates, regardless of the effectiveness and quality of the service they provide. No financial incentives exist for patient service, quality care or innovation, and no patient choice is involved in selecting the provider. However, given my experience of human nature, I expect that some chiseling does exist across the system.

When it came time to address public demand for automobiles, the USSR bought the design and assembly tools for the Fiat 124 and manufactured versions of it for about 15 years. Meanwhile the "Democratic Republic of Germany" built and distributed the Trabant, a stinker of a vehicle with a plastic body mounted on a primitive two cycle engine.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:04 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
If they don't attack the US, they aren't our problem. Let Europe deal with it.
So armed conflicts involving the United States are/have been always situations where the U.S.A. was attacked?

Bosnia, Herzegovina, Kosovo, Somalia, Northeastern Kenya, Uganda, Libya, Pakistan etc etc?
coldjoint
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:08 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Bosnia, Herzegovina, Kosovo, Somalia, Northeastern Kenya, Uganda, Libya, Pakistan etc etc?

All places that should be left to deal with their own problems. Or Germany can take over.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:21 am
@oralloy,
9/11 wasn't our problem either, but we stepped in. It's because we're not a nation of cowards.
oralloy
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:37 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Libya attacked us quite viciously actually. Pan Am 103.

Kadaffy was second to Usama bin Laden in terms of the massacre of American civilians.

Kudos to Mr. Obama for killing both of these monsters. I certainly had some major disagreements with him on some policies (mainly gun control), but he certainly did well on this front.
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georgeob1
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:39 am
@izzythepush,
WWI wasn't our problem either, but under our idiot President Wilson we foolishly succumbed to British Propaganda and joined in after a few bloody years. All we accomplished by that was to enable Lloyd George and Clemenceau to set the stage for Act 2 (WWII) in Paris in 1918.
izzythepush
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:42 am
@georgeob1,
The sinking of the Lusitania with the subsequent killing of American civilians had a lot to do with it.

What are you moaning about? That was back in the days when America used to win wars, before you joined. That was when you got handed your arses on a plate in Vietnam.
georgeob1
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:51 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

The sinking of the Lusitania with the subsequent killing of American civilians had a lot to do with it.

What are you moaning about? That was back in the days when America used to win wars, …..


Well let ne think about that ... We did fight a war with Mexico, in the mid 18th centrury, and of course there was the Revolutionary War with Great Britain. We won both of them.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 12:06 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
you got handed your arses on a plate in Vietnam.

Your post is not historically accurate. The US military decisively won every major engagement in Vietnam.

It's not their fault that, after they had expended so much blood and treasure to protect South Vietnam, the treasonous Democrats sold South Vietnam out to the Communists and forced us to withdraw.
izzythepush
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 12:16 pm
@oralloy,
When faced with reality deny it. You lost.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71aHmZBxIgL.jpg

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/411LnAk0TxL._SX313_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

https://docos-docos.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/why-america-lost-vietnam-war.jpg

You're no stranger to cowardice, you're even scared of kids.
oralloy
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 12:42 pm
@izzythepush,
That is incorrect. Our military won every major engagement. And our nation was neither conquered nor destroyed.

It can certainly be said that South Vietnam lost. And that they lost because our Democratic Party betrayed them to the Communists. But that is the most that can be said with any degree of accuracy.
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coldjoint
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 02:37 pm
@izzythepush,
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When faced with reality deny it. You lost.

You want reality? The UK is now a shithole.
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coldjoint
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 05:54 pm
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blatham
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 06:24 pm
@georgeob1,
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All the doctors & service providers get paid at government fixed rates, regardless of the effectiveness and quality of the service they provide. No financial incentives exist for patient service, quality care or innovation, and no patient choice is involved in selecting the provider.
One of my very favorite things is when Americans describe health services we Canadians receive. You kind of expect them to then go on and speak of what it's like to be in the French astronaut program.
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Builder
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 06:45 pm
December 23, 2019 | Judicial Watch
Fitton:
Judicial Watch Sues Rep. Schiff for Phone Subpoenas Targeting Trump


“Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), in potential violation of law, abused his power to secretly subpoena and then publish the private phone records of innocent Americans.

In response, Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit against Schiff and the House Intelligence Committee for the controversial subpoenas issued for phone records, including those of Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s lawyer. The phone records led to the publication of the private phone records of Giuliani, Congressman Devon Nunes, journalist John Solomon, Trump attorney Jay Sekulow, attorney Victoria Toensing, and other American citizens.”

Interesting development.

source
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Builder
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 06:52 pm
Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap and Torture
By Jonathan Browning
December 20, 2019 Updated on December 21, 2019

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Britain’s domestic intelligence service MI5 can authorize its agents to engage in criminal activities, potentially including murder, kidnap and torture, a London court ruled, as Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s new government prepares to overhaul espionage laws.

Judges on the Investigatory Powers Tribunal declared in a majority decision that MI5 has the power to permit informants to operate in criminal groups, even if the policy itself confers no legal immunity. The case focused on powers that were only disclosed last year by then-Prime Minister Theresa May.

“The case raises one of the most profound issues which can face a democratic society governed by the rule of law, Judge Rabinder Singh said in the ruling.

The decision comes as Johnson seeks to update laws to bring them in line with the U.S. in a crackdown on spies, saboteurs and hackers working for foreign states such as Russia, North Korea and Iran. Preventing MI5 from running agents in criminal organizations “would strike at the core activities of the Security Service,” the judges said.


Licensed to kill. I guess there's more than one way to "ensure" a fair election process. Chuckles.

source
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blatham
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 08:16 pm
63 million suckers, just waiting to be conned
President Trump’s reelection campaign is raising ungodly amounts of money for next year’s election. As of the end of September, it had already raised $165 million and spent $100 million of it. Much of those contributions from eager Trump fans are being funneled into Facebook ads that fire right back at them.

But with all that money floating around, everybody wants to get in on the action, as Politico’s Maggie Severns reports:

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As President Donald Trump raises money for his reelection campaign, he’s competing for cash with a growing mass of pro-Trump PACs, dark money groups and off-brand Facebook advertisers neither affiliated with nor endorsed by Trump’s campaign, which have pulled in over $46 million so far.
The groups mimic Trump’s brand in the way they look and feel. They borrow the president’s Twitter avatar on Facebook pages, use clips of Trump’s voice in robocalls asking for “an emergency contribution to the campaign” and, in some cases, have been affiliated with former Trump aides, such as onetime deputy campaign manager David Bossie. But most are spending little money to help the president win in 2020, POLITICO found.

And that’s before we even hit 2020. Just imagine how much these groups are going to pull in once the general election comes.

This is a new version of an old story on the right, one dating back decades. It began in the 1960s, when entrepreneurial conservatives such as Richard Viguerie realized that the grass-roots force that enabled Barry Goldwater to win the Republican presidential nomination was a fruitful market waiting to be exploited (historian Rick Perlstein has a lively history of how it happend).
blatham
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 08:25 pm
Demonic news from all over
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White evangelicals fear atheists and Democrats would strip away their rights. Why?

Right-wing media is warning of a civil war — and urging evangelicals to stock up on guns

As the House has moved through the impeachment of President Trump, voices on the extreme right have been arguing that it’s the first shot in a coming “civil war.” According to conservative evangelical conspiracy theorist Rick Wiles, “The Democrats are forcing me to stockpile ammunition, food, water, and medical supplies to defend my family, home, and church.” In a speech before the Values Voter Summit, Trump similarly said that Democrats were coming for the rights of Christians, which he said he would resist if he stayed in office. Franklin Graham claims that “demonic forces” are pressing for the impeachment of someone that a significant proportion of evangelicals believe is God’s anointed president.

But do white evangelical Protestants actually believe that Democrats will strip them of their rights? And is it true that Democrats and atheists want to strip evangelicals of their rights? A new survey has some answers.

...However, we found that a smaller proportion of white evangelicals would behave with tolerance toward atheists than the proportion of atheists who would behave with tolerance toward them. Thirteen percent of white evangelical Protestants selected atheists as their least-liked group. Of those, 32 percent are willing to extend three or more of these rights to atheists. In fact, when we looked at all religious groups, atheists and agnostics were the most likely to extend rights to the groups they least liked....
more here
blatham
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 08:28 pm
They sound like lovely people
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The firm behind NRATV sued one of its former hosts on Friday in federal court in Texas, accusing him of lying about how few people watched the far right-wing TV channel.


The lawsuit was filed by Oklahoma City-based ad firm Ackerman McQueen against Grant Stinchfield, an NRATV host who once called for North Korea to attack Sacramento.

NRATV shut down in June after the National Rifle Association, which had contracted with Ackerman to run the TV channel, chose to end production at the network. The move came amid rancorous infighting between the NRA and its longtime ad vendor, with both accusing the other of gross mismanagement and corruption...
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