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snood
 
  1  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 12:32 am
@Builder,
We know about what you think when you post what you think.

Duh
Builder
 
  2  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 12:35 am
@snood,
Then you're clearly not paying attention.

snood
 
  2  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 12:44 am
@Builder,
Not paying attention to you? Guilty. I probably haven’t even read 90% of things posted here with your moniker. You’ll forgive me if you’re not exactly ‘must read’ interesting. Trump lover. Here, eat some more of my ignore.
Builder
 
  2  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 12:53 am
@snood,
Quote:
I probably haven’t even read 90% of things posted here with your moniker


There you go. I don't have a moniker, and if you don't read my posts, why do you feel "qualified" to pass your pathetic judgement on them?
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 01:56 am
Quote:
There are growing indications that the Islamic State (IS) group is re-organising in Iraq, two years after losing the last of its territory in the country.

Kurdish and Western intelligence officials have told the BBC that the IS presence in Iraq is a sophisticated insurgency, and IS attacks are increasing.

The militants are now more skilled and more dangerous than al-Qaeda, according to Lahur Talabany, a top Kurdish counter-terrorism official.

"They have better techniques, better tactics and a lot more money at their disposal," he said. "They are able to buy vehicles, weapons, food supplies and equipment. Technologically they're more savvy. It's more difficult to flush them out. So, they are like al-Qaeda on steroids."

The veteran intelligence chief delivered his stark assessment in a London accent - the legacy of years in the UK after his family had to flee from the regime of Saddam Hussein.

At his base in Sulaimaniya, nestled in the hills of the Kurdistan region of Northern Iraq, he painted a picture of an organisation that has spent the past 12 months rebuilding from the ruins of the caliphate.

"We see the activities are increasing now, and we think the rebuilding phase is over," said Mr Talabany, who heads the Zanyari Agency, one of two intelligence agencies in Iraqi Kurdistan.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50850325
Builder
 
  -1  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 02:33 am
Cruz telling it like it is.

Obama and Biden and Clinton neck deep.

Pelosi is stalling. That's all it can possibly be.

Saying they don't know the terms of engagement is absolute bullshit.
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Builder
 
  -1  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 05:17 am
Cruz again, showing how it's done.

Even with all this help, Hillary still tanked.
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Brand X
 
  1  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 06:35 am
Russia Russia Russia

Michael Tracey

Verified account

@mtracey
7h7 hours ago
MoreMichael Tracey Retweeted Firing Line with Margaret Hoover
Adam Schiff, the guy the country was supposed to rely on to conduct impartial impeachment proceedings, is talking about "the KGB" in the present-tense
hightor
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 08:22 am
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Of all the names featured in the private depositions and public testimonies of the Presidential impeachment inquiry—Donald Trump and his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani; Giuliani’s associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman; Joe Biden and his son, Hunter—that of Yuriy Lutsenko has been cited more often than almost any other. In the sworn depositions of Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, and Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent, Lutsenko’s name appears two hundred and thirty times, nearly twice as often as Trump’s. Lutsenko, sometimes referred to simply as “the corrupt prosecutor general” of Ukraine, has been portrayed, hardly without reason, as an unscrupulous politician prone to telling lies to further his personal ambitions. As those closely following the news have learned, Lutsenko fed information to Giuliani, which Giuliani, Trump, and their allies spun to smear the reputations of the Bidens and of Yovanovitch, whom Trump fired in April.
One of the House’s star witnesses told me, of Lutsenko, “I don’t think we’d be here if not for him.”

The Ukrainian Prosecutor Behind Trump’s Impeachment
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blatham
 
  0  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 08:32 am
(Cue blare of trumpets)
!!!From The Mind Of Trump!!!
Quote:
“I never understood wind,” Trump said. “I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody. I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous — if you are into this — tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?”

“So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right spewing, whether it is China or Germany, is going into the air,” he continued.

“A windmill will kill many bald eagles,” Trump continued. “After a certain number, they make you turn the windmill off, that is true. By the way, they make you turn it off. And yet, if you killed one, they put you in jail. That is OK. But why is it OK for windmills to destroy the bird population?”
MSN
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oralloy
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 08:57 am
@snood,
snood wrote:
He’s already impeached. Trump is impeached. He will be an impeached president for the rest of history. No natter what else happens, he’s going to carry that for the rest of his pathetic fraudulent life, to the grave, in his obituary, and in history books all over the world forever.

I confess to not being aware of anything that has transpired in the world since last night's evening news was on. But as of last evening, Pelosi had backed down and was not going to go forward with submitting the impeachment charges to the Senate.

I do understand that leftists regularly deny reality, but your denials of reality do not actually change reality.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 08:58 am
@Brand X,
@mtracey wrote:
Michael Tracey Retweeted Firing Line with Margaret Hoover
Adam Schiff, the guy the country was supposed to rely on to conduct impartial impeachment proceedings, is talking about "the KGB" in the present-tense

I realize that it is some sort of acronym that begins with "V" now (or at least I think there is a "V" somewhere in the acronym). But I too still think of them as the KGB and call them this.
oralloy
 
  0  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 09:02 am
@oralloy,
I guess the "V" is the middle letter.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Service_(Russia)
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 09:13 am
@oralloy,
The KGB was both domestic and foreign intelligence service, since 1991 the SVR RF is Russia's external intelligence agency whilst the FSB is the main successor agency to the USSR's KGB.
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blatham
 
  1  
Mon 23 Dec, 2019 09:29 am
Quote:
Welcome to the Electability Primary
by Ed Kilgore

There were a lot of interesting things about the sixth Democratic presidential debate in Los Angeles, including a reduced field and greater discussion of issues like climate change that had gotten little attention in earlier debates. But Osita Nwanevu really put his finger on the big picture of the gradual transformation of candidate competition at this stage of the race:

Quote:
At year’s end, about a month and a half away from the Iowa caucuses, the ideas primary is over. The rough outlines of the candidates’ ideological positions within the party having been established to voters, the discourse has moved on to other matters.


Those “other matters” mostly involve, one way or another, arguments from the candidates about why each is the best equipped to beat Donald Trump. Even when they are criticizing each other, you get the sense they are previewing general-election attack lines they expect Team Trump to use. And in moving in this direction, supply is most definitely reflecting demand: Democratic primary voters are focused on electability to an unusual, perhaps unprecedented degree.

As Perry Bacon Jr. noted last month, definitions and measurements of electability vary significantly, so discussions of the subject are often unproductively confusing. It’s interesting, though, to examine the arguments for electability the candidates themselves are explicitly and implicitly making. Here’s my overview of some of the campaigns and their claims:

Joe Biden: Electability Über Alles

It’s often observed that Biden’s candidacy is restorationist: He wants to bring back the political system as it existed before Donald Trump entered the White House and ruined everything. The positive element of this pitch is to remind Democrats of everything they loved about Barack Obama; but the central, negative message is that Biden will subordinate everything to the task of removing the cancer that is consuming the body politic.

In support of the idea that he’s the guy for that task, Biden has several credentials: very high name ID and perceived likability; the reputation for moderation that many identify with electability; a presumed appeal to the white working-class voters in the Rust Belt who defected from Biden’s friend Obama to Trump in 2016; demonstrated popularity among the minority voters whose poor turnout also helped do in Hillary Clinton; and the sense that he is a known quantity relatively invulnerable to any vetting surprises.

The cost Biden exacts for this résumé is (to reverse the old Nietzschean maxim about second marriages) is the sacrifice of hope for experience. Perhaps progressives are more excited by the policy offerings of Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, but they don’t amount to a hill of beans if Trump is reelected. Uncle Joe implicitly represents an interregnum before the new progressive era many Democrats crave. In this, actually, his advanced age is an asset. Maybe after he deposes Trump and issues some executive orders, he’ll get out of the way (by 2024, at least) and turn the party over to younger, more exciting politicians. That’s why if Biden gets into trouble in the early primaries, he should probably announce an early veep pick to reinforce the impression he is a transitional figure and knows it.

Biden’s heavy reliance on his electability credentials does, however, make him vulnerable to adverse polling data contradicting that reputation.

Bernie Sanders: Mr. Movement Mobilization

Sanders represents the long, long tradition of left-progressive (and for that matter, right-reactionary) conviction that base mobilization is a more effective way to win elections than swing-voter persuasion; that nonvoters are more “populist” than habitual voters; and that all sorts of actual and potential voters are left cold by Establishment centrists with their corporate associations. The idea that he represents a movement (or, as he likes to call it, a “political revolution”) and not just a candidacy also buttresses his claim that, if elected, he can accomplish more (like the extremely implausible enactment of Medicare for All overnight) than mere politicians. His carefully cultivated independence from the Democratic Party and his exceptional popularity among younger voters add to the idea that he can expand the party coalition without relying on the upscale suburban college graduates his centrist rivals often pursue so lustfully.

Bernie’s electability argument isn’t all a matter of unconventional move-left-to-win theories, however. He has always emphasized policy proposals that are demonstrably popular, and in 2020, as in 2016, he does relatively well in general-election trial polls against Trump. His biggest problems in convincing primary voters of his electability are twofold: (1) the strong attachment of the punditocracy to the theory that moderates are more electable, and (2) the fear that his long career in lefty politics will be a treasure trove for opposition researchers while playing into Trump/GOP plans to make 2020 a referendum on socialism.

Elizabeth Warren: The Fight Game

Warren is typically the candidate who is better liked for her policy positions than for any perception of electability. But she needs an electability argument of her own for defensive purposes, if nothing else. Aside from perpetually batting down criticisms from those who think she’s not electable because she’s a woman, or an older “schoolmarmish” woman, or a Harvard professor, or a Massachusetts elitist, or “too liberal,” her chief positive claim is that she is a fearless fighter for working people who can go toe-to-toe with Trump. Her brains, her policy fluency, and her long record of taking on powerful interests all contribute to an image consistent with a quality I have recommended as a 2020 credential: unbreakability.

This quality of hers is useful in distinguishing the kind of campaign she would run against Trump from that of Hillary Clinton, the other older “schoolmarmish” elitist woman who didn’t do so well. Warren does not seem likely to let herself get swallowed up in the sort of poll-driven, calculating campaign Clinton ultimately embraced — to the expense of her principles, her critics often thought. Overconfidence also doesn’t seem to be in her makeup; she’s likely to be just as combative toward the wealthy interests she opposes whether she’s ten points up or ten points down. What you see is what you get, and there’s an appealing consistency in her steadiness.

Still, Warren doesn’t resemble past presidential winners very much, and will in particular have to shake sexist fears (or fear of sexists, depending on how you look at it) that she is a particular “type” of woman that voters just don’t like.

Pete Buttigieg: As Many Electability Arguments As Languages

The more you listen to Pete Buttigieg, the more you hear a whole assortment of electability arguments you have heard from other candidates over the years. He’s young, and thus represents a new generation of leaders at a time when voters are sick of the status quo. He’s a veteran and an observant Christian, qualities Democrats don’t often have and that they are often perceived as disrespecting. He’s Not From Washington, always a popular outsider credential and particularly useful in a field with five senators and a former senator and veep. He shares a midwestern background (and the presumed connection with key battleground-state voters) with Amy Klobuchar. And he shares with both Klobuchar and Biden the claim that being relatively moderate — or at least aggressively nonsocialistic — improves electability. Indeed, Mayor Pete has been more outspoken on that point than anyone since John Delaney was on a debate stage.

Buttigieg needs all of these electability arguments to counteract some big doubts about his general-election strength, based on his slim résumé, his openly gay identity, and his manifest lack of appeal (so far) to the minority voters Democrats need to turn out strongly. So he presents a sort of electability puzzle for media and voters alike.

Amy Klobuchar: Did I Mention I Was From the Midwest?

At the Los Angeles debate and in other public appearances, the senior senator from Minnesota rarely misses the opportunity to tout her familiarity with the values and interests of midwestern swing voters, and her strong electoral record back home in a state that is being targeted by Team Trump in 2020. To some extent, that’s because she desperately needs to do well in Iowa, where her status as a next-door neighbor is integral to her appeal. But the claim that she has a natural advantage in the Midwest is part of her national messaging, too, on grounds that someone who has repeatedly won big in Minnesota ought to be able to win Wisconsin — increasingly perceived as the key to the entire presidential election — next year.

She has also beat the drum of “pragmatic progressivism” more consistently than anyone in the field, not just in terms of eschewing big and controversial policy proposals, but in her incrementalist agenda, based heavily on what she can accomplish by executive order. And in contrasting herself both to Democrat Buttigieg (with whom she is ever-more aggressively competing) and to Trump, the veteran senator (she’s in her third term) isn’t afraid to brag on her Washington experience and connections.

Steyer and Bloomberg: Deep Pockets

Billionaires Tom Steyer and Michael Bloomberg shouldn’t be conflated; they have very different backgrounds (Bloomberg is a veteran elected official, Steyer an activist), campaign strategies (Steyer is focused on the early states, Bloomberg on the Super Tuesday), perceived ideologies (Steyer leans solidly left while Bloomberg is a centrist with certain progressive-policy priorities like gun safety and climate change), and even levels of wealth (Bloomberg could buy and sell Steyer many times over). But they both represent the desire of some Democrats to fight fire with fire on the financial front in 2020, and also appeal to some of the same people Biden does, who care about nothing other than beating Trump.

The big question about both of these candidates is less about electability than nominatabilty, but if other candidates conduct a demolition derby or the party goes into some sort of late electability panic, you could see some Democrats wanting to turn to a potential nominee who won’t have to waste time raising money and can match Trump’s business success dollar for dollar (or more).

The closer we get to the actual November 2020 election, the more all these varying electability arguments will begin to give way to more objective measurements like polls (already part of the argument, but not very reliable at this early date). And if we roll into the key moments of the nominating contest with Trump showing real strength, then you can be sure every surviving candidate will want to convince primary voters they can bring him down and end the nightmare. It will become the urgent Democratic priority if victory becomes or remains in doubt, and the electability primary could well be the one to win.


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Lash
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 10:05 am
That’s the first thing I’ve read from Kilgore this political season that didn’t leave me with an overwhelming desire to stab him in the eye.

He seemed nearly unbiased. Imagine.
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blatham
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 10:13 am
Quote:
Paul Waldman
@paulwaldman1
Periodic reminder: Before you hear Trump say something and assume that he will move public opinion by doing so, remember that he's the only president in the history of polling to have never reached 50% approval. Most Americans don't like him.
Gallup
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blatham
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 10:21 am
Quote:
Dan Froomkin/PressWatchers.org
@froomkin
You can’t quote the Saudi conclusion that “there was no prior intention to kill at the start of this mission” and not remind readers the Saudis sent an autopsy specialist with a bin saw to Istanbul.
critiquing the WP news report today.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 10:24 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
There are growing indications that the Islamic State (IS) group is re-organising in Iraq, two years after losing the last of its territory in the country.

If they don't attack the US, they aren't our problem. Let Europe deal with it.

If they do attack the US, step up the dronestrikes against them.
blatham
 
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Mon 23 Dec, 2019 10:26 am
Quote:
Jason Levine ☕
@delfuego
This is absolutely gobsmacking. A THROAT SWAB that a doctor billed *over $28K* to test, and when the @nytimes dug in, its just an interconnected set of NYC medical offices all scamming the **** out of the system to get ludicrous amounts of money. https://npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/12/23/787403509/for-her-head-cold-insurer-coughed-up-25-865

This is not a problem we have in Canada with our single-payer system.
 

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