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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 11:23 am
As some of you know, I am running for local office here. It turns out this enterprise is a bit more expensive that I thought so I'm organizing a fundraiser to be held in a beer igloo.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 11:41 am
@snood,

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Again, 8 consecutive unanswered posts.

Then you answer by complaining about it. Seems you have the perfect chance to disprove what he has said. Why don't you have at it?
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 11:42 am
@blatham,
Quote:
I am running for local office here.

Have you appeared in blackface yet? That is a vote getter.
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blatham
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 11:44 am
This all looks legit
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Russian state-run TV has aired Rudy Giuliani’s interview with a pro-Trump US news channel in which he promoted widely-debunked conspiracy theories to undermine the impeachment inquiry into the president.

Donald Trump’s personal lawyer appeared on the right-wing channel One America News (OAN) on Sunday to share what he claimed was evidence of interference by Ukraine in the 2016 election and corruption by Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

On Monday, segments from the interview were broadcast on Russia-1, a TV channel owned by the Russian government which has been accused of bias towards Vladimir Putin...
Independent UK
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BillW
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 11:57 am
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

https://scontent.fhou1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/79795023_10157850855124700_2176260860891103232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ohc=p3LDXbEvQtkAQlcAUK8ZjGEDj8Cl1ee98K0vGVjqgIoZGHSqT8Jt490eg&_nc_ht=scontent.fhou1-2.fna&oh=919aecf0d25582a823dbf62f5af02a59&oe=5E69EFD1
A very handsome Moscow Mitch at his best!

I need to give a full credit to edgarblythe for this pic - Thanks Edgar!
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 12:10 pm
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Franklin Graham Blasts Christianity Today's Call for Trump's Impeachment: My Dad Would Be Disappointed

Graham recognizes a hack when he sees one. The MSM blew this up and now the backlash has made fools out of them, AGAIN.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/12/21/franklin-graham-blasts-christian-todays-call-for-trumps-impeachment-my-dad-would-be-disappointed-n2558387/
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georgeob1
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 12:29 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Betcha betcha betcha you've never read Hofstadter.


Some years back I read about 2/3rds of his "Anti intellectualism in …" and at your suggestion! I finally gave up because of his persistent arrogance and evident, self-serving conviction that the unwashed masses are not able to think well for themselves (or at lease as well as he does). The experience of life had already taught me otherwise.

None of that has changed.
blatham
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 12:53 pm
@georgeob1,
Well done on the reading. However, I'm returning your paper with a failing grade. Here, in the big leagues, a failed bunt is not a home run.
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the unwashed masses are not able to think well for themselves (or at lease as well as he does)

So, I presume that:
1) fine with you if political office holders are chosen by random draw from the population at large?

2) an immigrant plumber's apprentice with a grade four education has the same understanding of Athenian culture or the US constitution or the Renaissance as you have and can speak about these things with the same wisdom as you might impart?

3) learning isn't really a good thing. It destroys common sense. That's why Sarah Palin would have made a very fine national leader? In her own way, she's much more intelligent and has a deeper capacity for intellectual grasp than you?

4) Donald Trump would be absolutely correct in describing Antonin Scalia as a snooty, elitist, arrogant ivory tower know-nothing?
blatham
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 01:09 pm
You folks have surely noticed a particular messaging gimmick coming out of the WH for a bit more than a week now. The press, much of it, dutifully carries it forward.

The message is that Trump really wants a Senate trial. A big loud one. With witnesses. He wants it to be "fair" and open. But, the message goes, he'll probably go along with McConnell's strategy to get it over and out of the way.

Of course there's no way Trump actually wants that. The most potentially incriminating fact witnesses in his administration have all been blocked - by Trump - from testifying. If they could dependably, under oath and in a situation where there is massive amounts of documentation that can be used to demonstrate dishonest, testify to Trump's complete innocence to the impeachment charges, he would facilitate such testimony so as to fully exonerate himself. None of that is happening.

But he obviously believes that he has to show "confidence" and "strength". And he thinks that a pro forma "trial" as strategized by McConnell looks kinda wimpish and cowardly. So, as always, he does the lying/boasting thing.
BillW
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 01:11 pm
@blatham,
As per the never changing same old script.
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BillW
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 01:52 pm
Food for thought:

It has been very strange what Tulsi Gabbard has been doing. I have a possible explanation. She may have thought her best move is to try and become a candidate for theRumps VP; therefore, her strange actions and nestling up to Russian/Pooty_poot. She could (falsely) claim to bring a number of Dem votes with her. Afterall, how else to explain actions that appear to cozy up to theRumpster while "running" for Dem Pres?
georgeob1
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 02:01 pm
@blatham,
I have had a great deal of experience leading large organizations composed of well educated people and many others with a good deal less formal education. This has included Naval Aircraft squadrons with 20 or so officer aviators and around 300 enlisted men who maintained our 15 aircraft; ships with crews as large as 5,800 men , and later corporations staffed by engineers, geologists, physicists and construction staff - all numbering up to 10,000 people.
From them I have learned that when it comes to the evaluation of immediate challenges and the general self-interest, all were about equal in their proficiency. Indeed the central element of demonstrated wisdom in problem solving had much more to do with the direct involvement of those involved with the challenge before them than any level of education and refinement present (or absent) in them, while those of a more intellectual persuasion often missed otherwise obvious elements of reality in their habitual abstractions.

Once, just a couple of weeks before a scheduled Westpac deployment, I got short notice orders to take the carrier and a reduced Battle Group on a route across the Bearing Sea (near the Pribilof islands) instead of the usual route by Hawaii and across the Central Pacific - in February ! Evidently the Fleet Commander's intent was to spook the Soviets by demonstrating we could (in electronic silence) approach their Kamchatka Peninsula bases undetected from an unlikely route. Unfortunately there was no book showing how we could operate aluminum aircraft from an ice covered steel flight deck in Arctic sea conditions. I immediately checked the DoD library for reports of previous Arctic operations and found only material from our WWII Aleutians campaign - I recall reading about our 1942 invasion of Adak in which we were surprised to find that the Japanese had left a month earlier but we still took 500 casualties. Not very encouraging, so I commissioned a bunch of officers to study the problem and come up with a concrete plan of action for flight deck air operations before we got underway. The day came and went, and no plan had yet emerged, As we sailed North West across the Gulf of Alaska, with the seas getting rougher and the air colder and wetter, each day, I continued pressuring my group of officers for a plan, and intently watched our ongoing flight deck operations from the Bridge Soon after we crossed through the Aleutians I realized that the 20 year old sailors on the flight deck had, in a hundred different improvised actions, found the needed solution. For example hey were towing an A-6 aircraft, with its nose wheel elevated. around the flight deck with its jet engines running at idle - a marvelous and immediately effective flight deck deicer ! This and many other such improvisations enabled us to fuel, arm and taxi aircraft to the catapults, launch them and later recover them on an ice free landing zone. I told my officers to get their asses out on the flight deck and write down what the sailors were doing - that would be their plan.

We made it safely across, launching fighters along the way to intercept Soviet aircraft 400 miles south looking for us below the Aleutians; slipped down through the Komandorski islands to a position abeam the Soviet base at Petropavlovsk, and turned everything on; getting the expected response in a large flight of Badger & Blinder aircraft immediately launched to intercept us. (One could never be sure that, at some level, they weren't fooled).

My point here is that ordinary people are usually very good at finding solutions to problems immediately before them, and usually a good deal better than are their educated educated "betters" theorizing from abstract and distant perches.

In a similar way I've learned from my gardener that he has a better understanding of the economic issues facing our working class than has the esteemed Harvard Professor Elizabeth Warren, and he is far less prone to exaggerated absurdities.

I believe The Athenian Themistocles learned similar lesson in building the Athenian triremes and training their crews before the battle with the Persians at Salamis
coldjoint
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 02:44 pm
https://defendingthetruth.com/attachments/1576961017635-png.6907/
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Builder
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 03:19 pm
@georgeob1,
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My point here is that ordinary people are usually very good at finding solutions to problems immediately before them, and usually a good deal better than are their educated educated "betters" theorizing from abstract and distant perches.

In a similar way I've learned from my gardener that he has a better understanding of the economic issues facing our working class than has the esteemed Harvard Professor Elizabeth Warren, and he is far less prone to exaggerated absurdities.


Never a truer word spoken. Current western indocrination methods, masquerading as education, are becoming more farcical every year.

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coldjoint
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 03:34 pm
@BillW,
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Food for thought:

You must be starving. Gabbard has nothing to do with Putin. More fear mongering that supposes Russia is a world power like the USSR was, all bullshit all the time.
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Builder
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 03:41 pm
The comments after the video are well worth a reading.

Pelosi doesn't seem to know what the parameters for impeachment really are.

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blatham
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 04:18 pm
@georgeob1,
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My point here is that ordinary people are usually very good at finding solutions to problems immediately before them, and usually a good deal better than are their educated educated "betters" theorizing from abstract and distant perches.
This would all depend on the nature of the problems faced. People who have developed hands-on skills to cope with physical challenges will have capacities not available to those with other sorts of talents developed in their lives. We wouldn't expect a team of loggers to comment valuably on handling an ebola outbreak or on the various national medical systems that exist in western nations. Though if you want a log house built or essential help after an earthquake, they'd be your guys.

Another example I might have mentioned before was the construction of Disneyland. Disney actually put his top animation artists in charge of design and they went ahead and produced a non-polluting people mover system because they weren't beset by notions that such a thing was impossible.

The argument you make has merit. To a point. But you failed to respond to any of the four questions I put to you and those are examples of where your formula breaks down.
georgeob1
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 05:03 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

This would all depend on the nature of the problems faced. People who have developed hands-on skills to cope with physical challenges will have capacities not available to those with other sorts of talents developed in their lives. We wouldn't expect a team of loggers to comment valuably on handling an ebola outbreak or on the various national medical systems that exist in western nations. Though if you want a log house built or essential help after an earthquake, they'd be your guys.

Another example I might have mentioned before was the construction of Disneyland. Disney actually put his top animation artists in charge of design and they went ahead and produced a non-polluting people mover system because they weren't beset by notions that such a thing was impossible.

The argument you make has merit. To a point. But you failed to respond to any of the four questions I put to you and those are examples of where your formula breaks down.


And yours does as well -also to a point.
What is a "pollution free people mover"? If it is powered, it is polluting.

I'll readily agree that "handling a ebola outbreak will require specialized medical and biological skills and training. However for the human elements of that challenge (or others like it), whether motivating people to take protective actions or dealing with the victims, much additional understanding and pragmatic engagement are usually required.

I'm an Aeronautical Engineer, versed in Fluid mechanics by education, but I know that much more than that, or the creation of software code for a flight control system, are required to design an aircraft flight control system, and the associated Pilot training program to go with it -- as the Boeing Co. has recently discovered.
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Builder
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 06:07 pm
@blatham,
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But you failed to respond to any of the four questions I put to you ....


That's quite comical, coming from the obvious obfuscation orator on this board.

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Builder
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 06:19 pm
Meanwhile, down under, the shift to neo fascism is well under way.



Let's pretend it's all about religious freedom, though.

That muddies the waters enough lately.
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