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coldjoint
 
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Mon 25 Nov, 2019 12:10 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:

The main thing you seem to be against is thinking, there's no witch hunt, only idiots and fascists think there is.

I have no doubt that you know how idiots and fascists think.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 25 Nov, 2019 12:14 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

there's no witch hunt, only idiots and fascists think there is.


And **** eaters obviously, sorry for missing them out.
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blatham
 
  1  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 12:16 pm
@revelette3,
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Yeah, [Bloomberg] coming to the democrat race complicates things a little more than the other billionaire in the democrat 2020 primary.
I don't care about that so much, rev. Lots of candidates will inevitably mean complexity through this process of choosing a candidate.

What drives me crazy is the presumption held by many people with great wealth that they are self-evidently destined to rule over others and that the evidence for this is their great wealth. It's America's version of aristocracy and the rights that attend such status.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 12:23 pm
@izzythepush,
Twits are also 'idiots' here in the States.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 12:27 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

It's America's version of aristocracy and the rights that attend such status.


Don't forget the Bread and Circuses.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 12:28 pm
@glitterbag,
Thanks.
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hightor
 
  2  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 12:31 pm
@livinglava,
Quote:
The anti-Trump movement has been attacking Trump since before he was elected instead of focusing on policy-making, which is the job of a legislature, regardless of who is in office.


Let's look more closely:
Quote:
The anti-Trump movement has been attacking Trump...

That's just a tautology — what's an "anti-Trump" movement supposed to do — support him?

Quote:
since before he was elected

Of course — people who didn't trust the reality TV figure and doubted his ability to govern wanted to keep him from winning. It's called "politics".

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instead of focusing on policy-making

Pelosi has sent scores of bills to the Senate for consideration and McConnell's sitting on them — policy-making can't be achieved if someone thinks it's more important to shut down the process.

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which is the job of a legislature

Bring that to Mitch's attention why don't you.

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regardless of who is in office.

Oh, so you mean that it doesn't matter if the chief executive lies regularly, vulgarly demeans his opponents, encourages his subordinates to obstruct justice, demonstrates appalling ignorance of American history, clearly has no understanding of the way government is supposed to function, and has likely engaged in impeachable offenses — you think the sole role of the legislature is to simply carry out his policies?
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blatham
 
  1  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 12:37 pm
@hightor,
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Plenty of corruption...the swamp is steadily growing.
The breadth and depth of the corruption being revealed is more than alarming.

And then, if we consider by way of contrast, the selflessness, integrity and competence of the foreign service individuals who testified last week (identified on the right as "Deep State" people) the whole picture becomes even more frightening.
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blatham
 
  1  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 12:54 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Rick Perry tells Donald Trump: 'You really are the chosen one'
I just saw that now, walter. I think he might believe it. A critical-thinking scholar, this boy and those like him.

What's the premise? A person who holds power must, axiomatically, be in that position through God's determination. Even if "imperfect" individuals, God is using them. And thus they should be there and certainly not removed because to attempt such a thing is to act counter to God's will.

True for Trump. True for Stalin. True of Reagan. True for Obama. True for Bill Clinton. True for Pol Pot. True for FDR.

True for Warren or Biden or Sanders or whomever one year from now? To hold or voice that conclusion would be to profane God's hidden intentions.
blatham
 
  1  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 12:58 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Don't forget the Bread and Circuses.
Indeed.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 01:20 pm
@blatham,
I think that to be intersting since we had had such centuries ago (but than lasting quite a few centuries), a political and religious doctrine of royal and political legitimacy: God's mandate, the divine right of being a king.

In Luther's "Against the Murderous, Thieving Hordes of Peasants" (Wider die Mordischen und Reubischen Rotten der Bawren) he defended the violent action of the princes against the peasants/farmers with the divine grace of the princes guaranteed by the New Testament in the Epistle to the Romans.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 01:35 pm
@blatham,
True for Blackface Justin?
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 01:46 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes. There's a thread running up through human history which equates power with God's will or even, as with the Caesars, that the ruler is himself an aspect of God(s). Really the same notion in either case.

Humans can be very stupid indeed.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 25 Nov, 2019 01:56 pm
@blatham,
Americans, not Chinese, pay Trump tariffs: NY Fed study
Quote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - When the Trump administration imposed tariffs on Chinese imports last year, officials insisted China would pay the cost - implying Chinese firms would have to cut their prices to absorb import “taxes” of up to 25% when the goods hit U.S. shores.

Instead, the prices Chinese firms charge have barely budged, meaning U.S. companies and consumers are paying the tariff costs, estimated at around $40 billion annually, New York Fed Reserve Bank researchers found in a study released on Monday.

As a result of the U.S.-China trade war, U.S. Customs and Border Protection adds as much as 25% to the import price as Chinese goods enter the country. If Chinese companies were absorbing that cost, they would have to cut their prices as much as 20% - a level that would allow U.S. retailers, manufacturers, or wholesalers to keep their own prices and profits stable.

That is not what is happening.

Import data from June 2018 to September 2019 shows Chinese import prices fell only 2%, the Fed study found, in line with price declines seen in many other nations as global trade slowed.

“The continued stability of import prices for goods from China means U.S. firms and consumers have to pay the tariff,” the Fed research team wrote.

The researchers did not estimate how those costs were split between lower profits for U.S. companies or higher consumer prices.

The research did find, however, that China is feeling the impact of higher tariffs.

China’s share of U.S. imports of machinery and electrical equipment has fallen by around 2 percentage points since 2017, and its share of U.S. electronics imports has fallen by 6 percentage points.

That market share “has gone largely to Europe and Japan for machinery and to Malaysia, South Korea, Taiwan, and Vietnam for electronics and electrical equipment,” the study found.

The research did not address how much market share may have been gained by U.S. suppliers, or whether other countries are charging higher prices than Chinese firms.

The fact that dollar prices of Chinese goods have not fallen also means that the roughly 10% drop in the value of China’s currency since the first tariffs were imposed has not been used by its exporters to keep a competitive edge, as some U.S. officials allege.

Instead, the currency drop serves “to pad profits on each unit of sales” for Chinese exporters, the research team concluded.
Sturgis
 
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Mon 25 Nov, 2019 02:04 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Americans pay...


Yeah, I'd first gotten wind of this (or at least the expectation of it), back when Trump first yammered about it. Being the huckster sort that he is, he also found a way to sell the idea of tariffs being beneficial to the U.S., to millions of voters, who foolishly believe him.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 25 Nov, 2019 02:07 pm
@blatham,
By the standards of his day George III was quite enlightened yet even he believed in the divine right of kings. It was that belief that lead to the American and then the French revolutions who had a different outlook.

Not only did George III lose the American colonies but he contributed to the deaths of loads of European nobles.

And he did the Caesar thing too, here in Southampton.

This is the Bargate which used to be the entrance to the city.

http://sotonopedia.wdfiles.com/local--files/page-browse:bargate/Bargate_April2009.jpg

The photo is a bit old, the shopping centre to the left has been demolished, but the Bargate's still here.

This is the rear of the Bargate.

http://sotonopedia.wdfiles.com/local--files/page-browse:bargate/Bargate%20-%20south%20side.jpg

Again it's a bit old, the zebras have all been auctioned off at Marwell zoo, but that's irrelevant. If you look at the top of the Bargate you'll see a statue.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/CF4W0E/a-statue-of-george-iii-in-roman-dress-above-the-bargate-a-norman-building-CF4W0E.jpg

In close up it's of George III dressed as the Roman Emperor Claudius, the one who conquered Britain.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 02:11 pm
@izzythepush,
Beautiful buildings, too bad they will be Mosques one day.
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 02:12 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Americans, not Chinese, pay Trump tariffs: NY Fed study
Given this data, Trump will now express regret that his plan did not work out as he'd hoped and stated and he'll proceed to shift the mistaken policy to better accord with American citizens needs. He's never afraid to admit error, steeped as he is in Christian humility.
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blatham
 
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Mon 25 Nov, 2019 02:21 pm
@izzythepush,
Not sure if you might know this story.

When the play The Madness of King George III was made into a movie, the producers decided that for purposes of marketing the film in America, they'd be better off dropping the final III. The reasoning was that too many Americans would presume that there'd been two prior films, prequels, I and II, and therefore they would skip the third installment.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 25 Nov, 2019 02:28 pm
@blatham,
I heard that when Branagh made Henry V he was asked how Henry the fourth did.

It was released as The Madness of King George over here, which I think sounds better anyway.
 

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