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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 03:50 pm
@oralloy,
He wasnt so much interested a in actual investigation asSAYING they were invedtigating just to smear joe for trumps personal gain.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 04:08 pm
Quote:
Hearsay is better than direct evidence, Dem congressman claims

How many here like that? How many want to go to jail because someone heard something about you? No doubt this Congressman is a mental giant. Shocked
https://www.wnd.com/2019/11/hearsay-better-direct-evidence-dem-congressman-claims/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-newsletter&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=newsletter
farmerman
 
  1  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 04:24 pm
@coldjoint,
thats the point I was trying to explain to max a few weeks ago regarding rules of evidence and what is actually allowable. Fortunately we dont really refer to this as "evidence right yet" I think next week we will hear from those who actually were ON the phone call. And were giving planning advice to Rudy da Frog.

Sen JAcobs has his head up giis own ass because he was trying to orchestrate the show when he knows samn well his fifteen minutes will dissolve as the other "direct witnesses " appear.
Shiff is like ALfred Hitchcock directing all this.

I like the whole thing where they just introduced the "menu of Crimes" that constitute the focus of the Impeachment. They dont have to search for a felony, Its right there in the Constitution.

coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 04:36 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
other "direct witnesses " appear.

And, are they mind readers? Is what they think Trump meant some sort of evidence? This is a show to win the 2020 election by smearing Trump and nothing else. It is not going to work. Trump will be re-elected and maybe by a landslide.
farmerman
 
  2  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 06:48 pm
@coldjoint,
I think Trump should have thought all about this angle BEFORE the call was made. Remember, HE INITIATED the conditions that initiated the investigation. So, youre being quite disingenuous.

Bribery or Extortion, choose ONE.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 06:51 pm
@farmerman,
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that initiated the investigation.

Oh no, it is common knowledge a Democratic operative started this. The whistler blower is no more than a spy.
Builder
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 08:50 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
Bribery or Extortion, choose ONE.


In Biden's case, it's both, and you can add nepotism for a
3 strikes and you're out, call.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 10:58 pm
@coldjoint,
Oh gosh, kind of like Snowdon?
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 11:01 pm
@Builder,
Or Jared Kushner?
glitterbag
 
  3  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 11:04 pm
@neptuneblue,
now, now, now.....his daddy was in federal prison..Jared needs to build up his family's cash reserves...before he goes to jail.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 11:05 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Oh gosh, kind of like Snowdon?

No, he is a real whistle blower. This guy was just a spy.
BillW
 
  3  
Thu 14 Nov, 2019 11:23 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Bribery or Extortion, choose ONE.

Both!
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glitterbag
 
  3  
Fri 15 Nov, 2019 12:27 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Oh gosh, kind of like Snowdon?

No, he is a real whistle blower. This guy was just a spy.


yeah, on opposite day.
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Builder
 
  -1  
Fri 15 Nov, 2019 12:46 am
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
Or Jared Kushner?


It might not be truth and justice, but it certainly is the American way.
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Builder
 
  -2  
Fri 15 Nov, 2019 03:32 am
So, what's next on the agenda for the disgraced DNC?

Any decent legal eagle could have told Schiffty and co they didn't have a ******* leg to stand on with their phony "witness" statements.

Are they even interested in attempting to win power the legal way?

Creepy Joe isn't going to win anything. Bloomberg? Pelosi?? HRC???

Do they even have anyone not stinking to high heaven on the books?
hightor
 
  3  
Fri 15 Nov, 2019 03:52 am
@Builder,
Quote:
Any decent legal eagle could have told Schiffty...

What's with the diminutive cutesy nickname? Do you always faithfully parrot Trump ? The name doesn't really fit the character of the chairman. It's juvenile.

And, by the way, the witness statements aren't "phony" — you've been visiting those fake news sites again.

My senator has a sign on his refrigerator door:

Quote:
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet"

...Abraham Lincoln


Quote:
Do they even have anyone not stinking to high heaven on the books?

Can you name any politician on the national stage who can't be described that way by somebody?
Builder
 
  -1  
Fri 15 Nov, 2019 04:03 am
@hightor,

Quote:
My senator has a sign on his refrigerator door:


What beer does he drink?
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 15 Nov, 2019 07:59 am
Watch impeachment hearings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuzK3LdJtvc
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hightor
 
  1  
Fri 15 Nov, 2019 08:48 am
Trump and His Party of Pollution

Environmental destruction may be their biggest legacy.

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Given what we’ve seen in the impeachment hearings so far, there is literally no crime, no abuse of power, that would induce Republicans to turn on President Trump. So if you’re waiting for some dramatic political turn, don’t hold your breath.

On second thought, however, maybe you should hold your breath. For air quality has deteriorated significantly over the past few years — a deterioration that has already cost thousands of American lives. And if Trump remains in power, the air will get much worse, and the death toll rise dramatically, in the years ahead.

The story so far: When I talk about air pollution, I don’t mean the greenhouse gases that are driving climate change, which pose a long-term existential threat. I’m talking instead about pollutants that have a much more immediate effect, especially “fine particulate matter,” small particles that make the air hazy and can penetrate deep into the respiratory tract. The health hazards of these particles have been documented by many studies.

The good news until a few years ago was that thanks to environmental regulation the concentration of fine particulates was in fairly rapid decline. The bad news is that since 2016 this kind of pollution has been on the rise again, reversing around a fifth of the gains since 2009.

A study documenting this reversal suggests multiple causes, including wildfires (themselves caused in part by climate change), increased driving and reduced enforcement. The study also finds, using well-established results on the health effects of pollution, that even this seemingly small rise in particulates led to almost 10,000 extra deaths last year.

To put this number in context, it may be helpful to remember that Trump began his presidency by talking about “American carnage,” portraying a nation awash in violent crime. In reality, crime was and is near historic lows. To the extent that anything was behind his rant, it lay in a modest (and temporary) uptick in homicides from around 14,000 in 2014 to 17,000 in 2016.

The point is that the Trump-era death toll from worsening air is already several times as large as the “carnage” Trump decried.

It seems crass to point this out, but the economic cost of rising pollution is also large; the study puts it at $89 billion a year. This is a pretty big number, even in an economy as large as America’s, and it means that economic growth under Trump, properly measured, has been significantly slower than standard numbers suggest.

And things are poised to get much worse. The Trump administration is working on new rules that would effectively prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from making use of much of the scientific evidence on adverse health effects of pollution. This would cripple environmental regulation, almost surely leading to sharply worsening air and water quality over time.

We don’t know exactly how this will play out, but it seems safe to say that if Trump stays in office, a lot more Americans will die as a result of his anti-environmental policies than the total number who are murdered, let alone murdered by the immigrants Trump loves to portray as a menacing, dark-skinned horde.

Why is this happening? As many observers have pointed out, failing to act on climate change, although it’s an indefensible crime against humanity, is also in some ways understandable. Greenhouse gas emissions are invisible, and the harm they do is global and very long-term, making denialism relatively easy.

Particulates, however, are visible, and the harm they do is both relatively localized and fairly quick. So you might have thought that the fight against dirty air would have widespread, bipartisan support. Indeed, modern environmental protection began under none other than Richard Nixon, and retired E.P.A. officials I’ve talked to describe the Nixon era as a golden age.

And Republicans continued to show at least some concern for the environment even after the party began to take a hard right turn. President Ronald Reagan signed a treaty to protect the ozone layer. The threat of acid rain was contained via a program enacted by President George H.W. Bush.

But that was a long time ago. Today’s Republican Party isn’t just a party that has embraced crazy conspiracy theories about global warming (and everything else where the facts are inconvenient.) It has also become the party of pollution.

Why? Follow the money. There’s huge variation among industries in how much environmental damage they do per dollar of production. And the super-polluting industries have basically put all their chips on the Republicans. In 2016, for example, coal mining gave 97 percent of its political contributions to Republican candidates and causes. And polluters are getting what they paid for.

This, by the way, is one reason I and others find it so mind-boggling when people like Joe Biden say that everything will be fine once Trump is gone. If Trump doesn’t succeed in destroying our democracy (a big if), his most damaging legacy will be the vast environmental destruction he leaves behind. And Trump’s pro-pollution stance isn’t an aberration. In this, he is very much a man of his party.

nyt/krugman
Brand X
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2019 08:49 am
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"These events should concern everyone in this room," says Yovanovitch after describing "disinformation" campaign that "knee-capped" her service as ambassador.
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