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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 07:32 am
@revelette3,
I think perhaps not enough people comprehend that America is merely an experiment in social organization rather than an inevitable apotheosis of God's wishes.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 07:42 am
@revelette3,
We were in a partnership with the Kurds. The Kurds are Sunni Muslims like IS and Saudi Arabia, but they're very moderate and ethnically different from the Arabs.

Assad is an Alawite which is similar to Shia Muslims which is why he has the support of Iran.

Not only that there's a multitude of other different ethnic groups and religions in Syria. There's one group that treats John the Baptist as the Messiah for example.

The Kurds were keeping loads of IS prisoners, now some high profile ones like the "Beatles" have been transferred to US control, but the vast majority will probably be able to walk out unchallenged.
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 07:50 am
Quote:
Jacqueline Alemany
@JaxAlemany
15m
Trump on ISIS: “These people are very smart ... very technically brilliant. They use the internet better than anyone else in the world .. perhaps except Donald Trump.”
edgarblythe
 
  4  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 09:27 am
A popular bumper sticker in many quarters in the 80s:
KICK THEIR ASS AND TAKE THEIR GAS

Probably the only reading Trump ever did.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 09:33 am
@blatham,
Quote:
When Trump initially thanked others, in fact, he mentioned Russia first, then Syria, Turkey and Iraq. He added that there was also “certain support [the Kurds] were able to give us.”

Later, Trump would credit Russia first in the news conference, saying that it was “great” and that Iraq was “excellent.”

He also disclosed that Russia was given a heads-up about the operation, even as top Democrats in Congress were not. “We told them, 'We’re coming in … and they said, ‘Thank you for telling us,’" Trump said. But he added, “They did not know the mission.”
WP

Quote:
MOSCOW (Reuters) - The Russian Ministry of Defense said on Sunday it was not aware of any assistance that Russia had allegedly provided to the U.S. air forces in the operation that targeted Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, state-run RIA news agency reported.

“We are unaware of any alleged assistance to the flying of U.S. aviation into the airspace of the Idlib de-escalation zone during this operation,” Major-General Igor Konashenkov was quoted by RIA as saying.
Reuters[/b]
snood
 
  5  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 09:42 am
@Walter Hinteler,
He lies about EVERYTHING
blatham
 
  3  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 11:58 am
@snood,
Yes he does.

Here's what he actually doing (aside from working to increase the value of his brand and using his position to enhance his family's income, of course); he is doing owning-the-libs performance art. He understands that this is what worked so well for Limbaugh. He understands that this is exactly what the modern Republican base crave. That's why he talks as he talks.
snood
 
  3  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 12:22 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Yes he does.

Here's what he actually doing (aside from working to increase the value of his brand and using his position to enhance his family's income, of course); he is doing owning-the-libs performance art. He understands that this is what worked so well for Limbaugh. He understands that this is exactly what the modern Republican base crave. That's why he talks as he talks.


Yeah, I guess he may talk and behave the way he does because he acts according to a clever strategy. But from what I remember of seeing him in all the years before he began masquerading as president, he was always a preening, self-congratulating blowhard. I think it’s just an unhappy accident that his “campaign” happened at the same time as an angry white whiplash of a base that needed desperately to wash 8 years that of a freer, more equal, browner, blacker country out of their memories.
blatham
 
  1  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 12:49 pm
@snood,
Had he arrived at a different point in time, Hitler may well have had no influence. So your point is well taken.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 12:55 pm
@blatham,
There's a SF story where someone goes back in time to assassinate Hitler only to find the Nazis win the war.

If Hitler had been able to paint people things might have worked out differently.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 04:31 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
It doesn't, and Trump's actions will significantly increase IS activity in the region.

Islam does that, not Trump. The same religion that raped the UK's children is self motivating.
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Builder
 
  0  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 04:50 pm
Starting from 49.49 Trump says twin towers were bombed. Says he warned about bin Laden a year before then.

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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 07:19 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv102519dAPR20191025034508.jpg
Builder
 
  0  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 07:26 pm
@coldjoint,
This is what I thought the prez was going to announce.
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edgarblythe
 
  6  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 10:50 pm
You didn't see it on the broadcast, but Trump was booed at the baseball game with chanting, Lock him up and somebody hung a large banner that read IMPEACH HIM.
Builder
 
  -2  
Sun 27 Oct, 2019 10:55 pm
@edgarblythe,
Have a little faith in your legal system, Edgar.

We're still looking at the crimes of the last admin.

The whole "problem" with Trump, is that he didn't pardon the outgoing admin, like all of his predecessors.
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Builder
 
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Mon 28 Oct, 2019 03:32 am
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
A popular bumper sticker in many quarters in the 80s:
KICK THEIR ASS AND TAKE THEIR GAS


I've also heard/read (probably from the same demographic) that "We should have picked our own damn cotton..."

The CIA's first foray into "regime change" (actually ******* over another nation, and negating their legal and democratic process) was in 1953 in Iran, and that came back to bite your admin in the arse. (ass is a donkey)

Hell, even Madelaine Albright attempted an apology over that "mistake", but, much like her career, it was a piss-poor attempt at public relations.

The adage we've come to understand about US foreign policy, is that the US of A always does the right thing, after they've tried everything else.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Mon 28 Oct, 2019 04:47 am
Quote:
Syrian Kurds: 'The world has closed its eyes on us'

On our way to Qamishli, the largest Kurdish city in northern Syria, we see a US military convoy escorted by fighter jets heading east towards the Iraqi border. They are leaving the Kurdish region.

The first time I saw an American in Syria was in 2016. He was part of US special forces, sent to support the Kurds fighting the Islamic State (IS) group. Locals were excited to see them arriving.

But it was in stark contrast this time around. Now you could see the fear and anxiety in the faces of onlookers.

We were only a few kilometres from the Turkish border as one of the jets circled overhead, leaving a trail of white smoke as it passed in and out of Turkish airspace.

One of our guides sighed. "Trump bi namoose," he said to me in Kurdish. "Trump has no honour."

The Kurds have every reason to be worried. On one side they face neighbouring Turkey, on the other, Syrian government forces.

Now the US is leaving, Kurds here are convinced they have no friends other than the mountains they inhabit.

From the moment we arrived in Qamishli, ordinary Kurds from baker to waiter asked, "why did Trump sell us out?" This is a traditional society that prides itself on a code of honour and does not understand why it has effectively been cut loose.

"America stabbed us in the back... Trump sold us... we were betrayed," we heard, again and again.

Qamishli 's squares and electricity poles are decorated with the pictures of the fallen - men and women killed in the war against IS.

Every day there are funerals somewhere in this tiny region. It has been this way since IS attacked the Kurds in 2014. But now the victims are those who have been killed since Turkish and allied forces launched their cross-border attack earlier this month.

At the funerals, many mourners hide their tears. Instead they lead the caskets to graveyards with dances and chants.

At one such ceremony, for a fallen fighter of the Kurdish YPG, a tall man in his 60s approaches me and calmly says: "Erdogan doesn't like the Kurds. He wants us to leave," referring to the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who regards the YPG as terrorists.

The Kurds lost 11,000 men and women battling against IS. "The fight wasn't ours only, we fought on behalf of humanity," the man says. "Where is the international community? Why don't they stop Erdogan?"

In a bakery sits a pile of bread, baked for fighters on the front line. Bahouz, a 16-year-old boy who is cutting dough, asks me my opinion of Americans and Europeans.

"Do you think they will stop Erdogan from massacring us?" An older boy shouts: "Trump sold us - oil is more important than our lives."

The young boys are clearly frightened. They know if the pro-Turkish Islamist militias arrive here, they would be prime targets. Already videos have emerged apparently showing Turkish-backed militias shouting "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest") and shooting handcuffed young men just like them.

At a hospital treating wounded YPG fighters, a doctor, Rojda, runs from one operating theatre to another. Rojda, a petite woman in her 30s, is also the director of the facility.

"What's the point of filming?" she asks wearily. "Don't waste your time. The world has closed its eyes on us."

One of the patients I meet there is 23-year-old Jiyan. She sits on her bed, staring into the distance. There are dark circles around her eyes. Her head has been surgically pinned, her skull fractured; a hand and both legs are injured.

She laughs derisively. "I survived fighting IS in Kobane, Manbij, and Raqqa, but it was the Turks who almost killed me!"

Jiyan was in Ras al-Ain when Turkey attacked the border town. Her unit came under extensive Turkish artillery and bombardment.

"We put up a good fight against Turkish-backed thugs, but we couldn't match Turkish firepower," she tells me, adding: "I lost many friends."

On our way out of Syria, I meet Kino Gabriel, spokesperson for the SDF, the Kurdish-led alliance of militias.

A tall man with a big smile, he is the founder of the Christian Syriac Military Council, part of the SDF. He avoids criticising President Trump, hoping, it seems, that the US will change course and come back to the SDF's aid.

"Those jihadists backed by Turkey are not only coming for our land, they see us as infidels. They are coming for us," he says.

As US troops withdrew from Qamishli last week on Donald Trump's orders, one picture in particular - of a US soldier in his armoured vehicle wearing YPJ (the Kurdish women's fighting force) insignia on his sleeve - resonated with the Kurdish allies they were leaving in haste.

"The American soldiers are just like us - shocked and disappointed with this political decision," Kino Gabriel says. "But it is not their fault. We honour their sacrifices too."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50181855
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Mon 28 Oct, 2019 05:13 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
MOSCOW (Reuters) - The Kremlin said on Monday that U.S. President Donald Trump will have made a major contribution to the fight against international terrorism if a U.S. assertion that Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is true.

Trump on Sunday announced that Baghdadi had killed himself during a daring overnight raid by elite U.S. special operations forces in Syria.
Reuters
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 28 Oct, 2019 05:17 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
If Hitler had been able to paint people things might have worked out differently.
Well, he and I have the same deficiency.
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