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edgarblythe
 
  4  
Mon 21 Oct, 2019 02:48 pm
Here is a cute headline from a site called GEDSECTIOB>COM:

Trump Rally Supporters Left Stranded As They Never Paid For The Buses They Hired
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 21 Oct, 2019 03:23 pm
@revelette3,
Trump's not there.
Builder
 
  -3  
Mon 21 Oct, 2019 04:02 pm
Give 'em enough rope, etc......

source


Quote:
Last weekend, Nancy Pelosi and 8 other U.S. lawmakers, including Schiff, announced that they arrived in Jordan to speak with King Abdullah II and other officials on the situation in Syria.

Under Obama administration, the Middle East from Yemen, Egypt, and Syria to Libya were torn apart, resulting in tens of thousands of deaths and millions of migrants flooding Europe and the United States. However Democrat Party leaders did nothing at that time.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration has used its limited influence and capabilities to try to achieve something constructive in Syria. Turkey has agreed to a cease-fire after a meeting with a U.S. delegation led by Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. The cease-fire will allow Kurdish fighters to leave the region, and Turkish troops to permanently cease military action in northern Syria.
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revelette3
 
  2  
Mon 21 Oct, 2019 04:53 pm
@izzythepush,
Trump is the Commander-in-Chief; as such, he is the one to order the withdrawal from Syria.
Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 21 Oct, 2019 05:17 pm
Not that I bother with newspapers at all these days, it's interesting that the two rival factions controlling our "free" press here in OZ, joined forces to protest measures put in place by "our" govt., in collusion with an obviously corrupted federal police force, to stymie and stifle political comment of any kind.

source

Quote:
After being targeted by the recent AFP press raids, journalists and media organisations are finally standing up against years of laws which – while passed under they guise of protecting against terrorism – are actually being used to silence critics of governmental misconduct.

The proliferation of “loosely drafted” anti-terrorism laws has seen critical publications criminalised, including reports that are factual and in the public interest.

The Australian Financial Review and the Australian, among other national mastheads, have responded to these laws – which have so far led to the arrests of News Corp journalists – with a series of frontpage headlines this week.

Description of current laws by members of the newly formed Right to Know Coalition among others, have ranged from “absurd”, to “overly comprehensive”, to “threatening the integrity of our democracy”.

They point out that reporting on allegations of abuse that formed the backbone of two major Royal Commissions would not have been possible if it weren’t for media freedom, and are fearful the tightening noose on Australian press freedom will prevent criticism of abuses by not only government bodies, but other organisations as well.

The overarching message from media organisations is unanimous and clear: remove the threat of criminal prosecution and let us do our jobs.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Mon 21 Oct, 2019 08:54 pm
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:
US Supreme Court overturns ruling in Michigan gerrymandering case: What it means

I know republicans are happy, but I hope all those who felt justified in not voting for Clinton in the inane name of "not voting for the greater good" feel happy about that ruling. They caused it.

It's a great ruling. The whole of Michigan is happy.

It was kind of an empty and pointless article though, if it is truly supposed to be about "what it means". I didn't see very much in the way of "what it means" anywhere in the article.

What it means is that Michigan will not have to go to the expense of redrawing our districts for just a single election before then redrawing them again after the 2020 census. Now we can wait until after the 2020 census and redraw them once.

What it means is that our state senators will not suddenly have to run for reelection midway through their terms, in brand new districts that they are unfamiliar with, and in a presidential election year (we elect our state senators in off year elections).

What it means is that Michigan won't have to endure a bunch of legal battles over whether state senators who are in their second term are allowed to run for reelection in order to finish out their terms. Not mention the legal battles over whether state senators who are in their first term will now only get a single term in office. Although I guess perhaps we just missed out on a potential way to challenge and overturn term limits themselves.

Quote:
Limitations on Terms of Office of State Legislators

No person shall be elected to the office of state representative more than three times. No person shall be elected to the office of state senate more than two times. Any person appointed or elected to fill a vacancy in the house of representatives or the state senate for a period greater than one half of a term of such office, shall be considered to have been elected to serve one time in that office for purposes of this section. This limitation on the number of times a person shall be elected to office shall apply to terms of office beginning on or after January 1, 1993.

http://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Term_Limits_Amendment,_Proposal_B_(1992)
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 12:50 am
What is satire allowed to do?
Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/Hac160rl.jpg
roger
 
  2  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 01:01 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Anything, apparently.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 01:02 am
@revelette3,
I know, but the people who feel betrayed just want to lash out, logic doesn't come into it.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 08:06 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/7al1pJ3.jpg


Does "lynching" have a different meaning than that how it is used usually?

Or why else is the US-President likening a process enshrined in the US constitution to racist killings?
revelette3
 
  2  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 08:08 am
@izzythepush,
I realize that.

Most of the ones I have read about feel ashamed of deserting the Kurds to be slaughtered.
revelette3
 
  2  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 08:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Does "lynching" have a different meaning than that how it is used usually?

Or why else is the US-President likening a process enshrined in the US constitution to racist killings?


Because he is an insensitive narcissist clod of a president; which is the nicest way to describe him.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 08:26 am
@revelette3,
I'm sure that's true, but it's not likely to cut any ice with those who feel they've been abandoned.

Before any of the usual suspects bring it up I'd like to point out that these problems go back to the end of WW1 and the breakup of the Ottoman Empire.

There should have been a Kurdistan created then but the French and British were more concerned with imperial matters than nation building.

If you look at the map of the ME you'll see loads of straight lines. Straight lines that cut various ethnic groups up into smaller parts. Compare that to Europe where there's hardly any, where nations built up around the same ethnic groupings.
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snood
 
  7  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 08:32 am
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:

Quote:
Does "lynching" have a different meaning than that how it is used usually?

Or why else is the US-President likening a process enshrined in the US constitution to racist killings?


Because he is an insensitive narcissist clod of a president; which is the nicest way to describe him.


Yes, that - and also, even though he’s generally a dullard about... everything, it’s not lost on him that lynching is a racially loaded word. And he’s always willing to say anything that might inflame his... less racially sensitive constituents.
farmerman
 
  3  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 09:07 am
@snood,
yesterday they played som set-to's hes had with news media folks and he kept referring to the phone call with Ukraine as a "letter". I believe hes also in the springtime of some kind of dementia. He seems to be getting more angry , more irascible and lacking patience.

Also ,I have to say that his complete lack of a sense of humor is symptomatic of someone with a lower percentile IQ.
Yet he claims hes a "genius". Therefore it seems to be much easier to claim than to be.
snood
 
  3  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 09:11 am
@farmerman,
Yup. Witness Oralloy.
blatham
 
  3  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 10:27 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The real problem here that Trump is trying to identify for us is that lynchings are inappropriate if it is a white guy swinging.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 11:00 am
Just an aside, Lonely planet has produced a list of the top ten countries to visit.
1)Bhutan
2)England
3)North Macedonia
4)Aruba
5)Eswatini (Swaziland)
6)Costa Rica
7)The Netherlands
8)Liberia
9)Morocco
10)Uruguay

Click on link to see why England, not Britain or the UK, just England, made number 2.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50138051
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 11:01 am
@blatham,
Quote:
lynchings are inappropriate

Lynchings deny due process, they are mob rule. The loudest and most fanatical win and justice dies with the victim. In this case it has nothing to do with race it has to do with our system of justice based on due process and fairness. The Democrats are the loud fanatics here joined by the MSM and useful idiots. That makes them the bad guys here, there is no way around that.
blatham
 
  3  
Tue 22 Oct, 2019 12:03 pm
Trump, in yesterday's cabinet meeting:
Quote:
"I'm the one -- meaning it was me and this administration, working with others, including the Kurds -- that captured all of these people that we're talking about right now," the president said. He added, "I'm the one that did the capturing. I'm the one that knows more about it than you people.... As you know, most of the ISIS fighters that we captured -- 'we.' We. Not Obama. We. We captured them. Me."
Benen

Perhaps some significant mental health issues?

Still, what citizen wouldn't be proud of this man's dignity and grace?
 

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