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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Olivier5
 
  4  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 04:40 pm
@old europe,
Okay so which intellectual would you propose, which speaks authoratively of the crisis of western democracy? I have nothing against thinkers of any sort.
maporsche
 
  4  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 04:41 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

maporsche wrote:
. The assumptive and condescending thing is people thinking that because I may have supported HRC or democratic policies...that I must NOT have spoken to people around me.


I'm not at all sure where that came into play.


The discussion from what I understand is about how the democratic polices of the old (Clinton) need to be replaced with the policies of the new (Sanders). When asked 'how that happens' the response was "listen to Sanders' message and listen to the people around you.

I have friends who are millionaires. I'm on my way there too. I work in a large financial institution and I know many people who make 100,000/yr or more. I speak their language. I'm in many ways like them.

I also have 3 brothers and sisters raising families on less than 20k-35k/year. I grew up in poverty and on foodstamps. You don't simply forget what it's like to grow up poor...to be made fun of in school, to have to ride the bus everyday, to have holes in your jeans, to eat free breakfast/lunch, to never have any material possessions. I have a second job as a nurse 28 hours a week with families and real people with real financial problems, real healthcare problems, and real every type of problem.

I've had family die of cancer. I've had friends die from drug problems. I've seen millionaires have depression. I've seen poor people happy at life living paycheck to paycheck living in a single wide trailer with a hole in the roof. I've drank wine at the fanciest bars in Chicago shoulder to shoulder with sports stars and investment bankers and I've spent 7 months living in the woods showering once a week and being looked at like a homeless person.

To some degree we all live in a bubble, to deny that is silly. But to assume that people who support the democratic party are just ignorant to the lives of people is assumptive and condescending.

I supported Clinton for a variety of reasons; I'd do it again. She was a better candidate and would have made a better president than Sanders in my opinion. If anyone thinks that my support for her has to do with my lack of understanding of everyday people and the problems in their lives, then they can simply screw off.


*note, I'm smiling at the end of this message. I'm not angry at all, just explaining why I took offense.
ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 04:47 pm
@ossobucotemp,
I should have added to that post that other cars or trucks didn't h0nk, and they were just driving, or perhaps disageed. Busy road.
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nimh
 
  2  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 04:55 pm
@Olivier5,
This was a great post -- thank you, Olivier.
ehBeth
 
  2  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 04:57 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
The discussion from what I understand is about how the democratic polices of the old (Clinton) need to be replaced with the policies of the new (Sanders). When asked 'how that happens' the response was "listen to Sanders' message and listen to the people around you.


I definitely wasn't talking about Sanders/Clinton - or any specific politician.
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 05:04 pm
@maporsche,
Thanks for sharing about your life. Most in our age group grew up during the Great Depression, and understand poor much more than the current generation. Our mother raised four children on welfare, but I'm more than sure our taxes have helped others in similar condition after WWII.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 06:12 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Quote:
An academic study from November comparing top court prospects to Scalia -- based on judicial philosophy and other factors -- put Gorsuch second among Trump's "List of 21" for his "Scalia-ness."

I was curious about that study and did a search. Got this article:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/donald-trump-picks-for-supreme-court-rated-on-scal/
Quote:
By Alex Swoyer - The Washington Times - Thursday, January 26, 2017

If President Trump and conservative activists want to make good on their goal of replacing the late Justice Antonin Scalia with a jurist of the same bent and caliber, a group of lawyers and academics have crunched the numbers and have come up with the answer: Judge William Pryor.

Of the three names reported to be at the top of Mr. Trump's list, Judge Pryor scored the highest on a test of likely "Scalia-ness," followed closely by Judge Neil Gorsuch, with Judge Thomas Hardiman trailing behind.

Jeremy Kidd, a law professor at Mercer University who led the study, said they looked at the judges' fealty to the Constitution's original meaning, their devotion to Justice Scalia's writings and their willingness to strike out in writing their own opinions rather than sign on to colleagues' rulings -- a hallmark of Scalia's tenure on the high court.

Mr. Kidd's analysis found that Judge Pryor was the most devoted to Justice Scalia's writings, while Judge Gorsuch scored higher on fealty to originalism and on willingness to break from colleagues in cases and write his own opinion.

"We hope that the study helps people realize that there actually are ways to measure the qualities they say they want in a jurist," Mr. Kidd said.

This article has a link to the actual study:
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/among_trumps_potential_scotus_picks_these_rate_highest_for_scalia_ness_stud/

The study:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2874794

I hope for the next SCOTUS vacancy Mr. Trump considers Justice Thomas Lee of the Utah Supreme Court. Wow!
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 06:13 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
I'm a little surprised the A10 is being considered as competition for the F35. I know the F35 has its opponents, but I didn't think some people think a plane frm 1976 is better.

Don't get me started. A Korean War F-86F can out-dog-fight an F-35.

The people who canceled the F-22 need to be prosecuted for treason.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 06:21 pm
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:
The Democrats signaled that they still aren't ready for getting a fresher look when they reinstalled Nancy 'look at my necklace' Pelosi.

Pelosi is one of the few Democrats who support the Second Amendment. It is good to have her in a position of power on the Left.
layman
 
  -1  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 06:30 pm
Speaking of the SC nominee, I saw an interview of Trump a few days ago where he said he knew who it would be (but wasn't going to reveal his decision just yet).

The interviewer pressed him, hoping he might break down and say who it was, saying something like: But you KNOW who its going to be.....

Then Trump added" "Yeah, subject to change at the last minute, of course, but..."

Question: If Trump changed his mind at the "last minute," would that just prove the charge that he is "impulsive?"
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Frugal1
 
  0  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 07:08 pm
@oralloy,
America will celebrate her departure, when it happens.
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layman
 
  0  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 07:35 pm
Well, OK, then!

Quote:
President Trump Threatens to Send U.S. Troops to Mexico to Take Care of 'Bad Hombres

(WASHINGTON) — President Donald Trump threatened in a phone call with his Mexican counterpart to send U.S. troops to stop "bad hombres down there" unless the Mexican military does more to control them itself, according to an excerpt of a transcript of the conversation obtained by The Associated Press.

The excerpt of the call did not make clear who exactly Trump considered "bad hombres," — drug cartels, immigrants, or both — or the tone and context of the remark, made in a Friday morning phone call between the leaders. It also did not contain Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto's response.

Still, the excerpt offers a rare and striking look at how the new president is conducting diplomacy behind closed doors. Trump's remark suggest he is using the same tough and blunt talk with world leaders that he used to rally crowds on the campaign trail.

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."


http://time.com/4657474/donald-trump-enrique-pena-nieto-mexico-bad-hombres/

An invasion of Mexico, cool!

Didn't Teddy Roosevelt to the same thing?

Quote:
U.S. foreign policy toward Latin America was to assume the region was the sphere of influence of the U.S., initially articulated in the Monroe Doctrine. In the Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine, President Theodore Roosevelt asserted the United States' right to intervene militarily in the region to restore order if in the U.S. view a nation could not or would not do it itself.
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Frugal1
 
  -1  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 07:37 pm
This nation should have assumed a war footing when 9/11 happened, but better late than never.
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Lash
 
  1  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 08:11 pm
@blatham,
Chomsky

Belafonte

Greenwald
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layman
 
  -1  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 08:12 pm
It looks like Iran will soon be nuked, too. Good riddance.

Quote:
Tension between the Trump administration and Iran continued to rise Wednesday when National Security Adviser Michael Flynn said the White House was putting Tehran "on notice," an apparent threat of retaliation for a recent ballistic missile test.

Flynn, a retired Army general and former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, [noted] Iran's "destabilizing behavior across the Middle East," including reported attacks on U.S. allies by Iran-backed Houthi rebels in the Red Sea.

He pointed out President Trump's disapproval of the Obama administration's agreements with Iran as "weak and ineffective. Instead of being thankful to the United States for these agreements, Iran is now feeling emboldened," Flynn said. "As of today, we are officially putting Iran on notice."


As I recall, we gave Japan a few days' "notice" before nuking Hiroshima, too. That's just the way the USA rolls. We're always fair, eh?
layman
 
  -1  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 08:26 pm
@layman,
Yeah, that's what I thought:

Quote:
TO THE JAPANESE PEOPLE:

America asks that you take immediate heed of what we say on this leaflet.

EVACUATE YOUR CITIES.

We are in possession of the most destructive explosive ever devised by man. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s can carry on a single mission. This awful fact is one for you to ponder and we solemnly assure you it is grimly accurate.

Before we use this bomb again and again to destroy every resource of the military by which they are prolonging this useless war, petition the emperor now to end the war. Act at once or we shall resolutely employ this bomb and all our other superior weapons to promptly and forcefully end the war.

EVACUATE YOUR CITIES.

(Leaflets warning Japanese of Atomic Bomb, 1945)


They didn't listen, the chumps, them. Iran probably won't either.
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RABEL222
 
  2  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 08:38 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
A pattern seems to be emerging...


In 2004 one could see the pattern if one had any ability to recognize a defective character.
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RABEL222
 
  1  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 08:41 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
What voices do you personally trust to accurately describe such matters?


The only opinion that counts with Mc G is his own. All other facts and opinions count for nothing to Mc G.
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McGentrix
 
  0  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 08:52 pm
@georgeob1,
Maybe Blatham should read this article and watch Joe Biden on the floor of the Senate...

Quote:
As a senator more than two decades ago, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. argued that President George Bush should delay filling a Supreme Court vacancy, should one arise, until the presidential election was over, and that it was “essential” that the Senate refuse to confirm a nominee to the court until then.


Of course the source is well known for its bias so he will probably find a reason to poo-poo it.
RABEL222
 
  0  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 08:54 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
You haven't opened your eyes during all these days. And now that the Trump is in the WH, you want "resistance"?


Better back off some Oliver. You are beginning to sound like Georgeob1.
 

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