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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Wed 9 Oct, 2019 05:46 pm
@McGentrix,
Sorry, McG. As hightor notes, "suicide bomber" connotes, above all, Muslim (particularly) terrorists willing to blow themselves up so long as they kill many others in the process. It does not connote what you suggest, one time use only. I really don't know where you got that from. Do a google search on "suicide bomber". You'll get millions of uses that correspond with my meaning. I doubt that you'll find even one that matches your proposed meaning. Further, it really makes no sense as this individual may well act again if motivated to do so.

The other terms I put in bold are of a similar nature. "Regicide", of course, means the murder of a monarch. A whistleblower complaint which may result in an impeachment of a sitting president (as the constitution allows) is neither murder nor is the president a monarch. "Fake impeachment" is obviously a meaningless pairing of words but is intended only to forward the "fake" meme to people who don't think clearly. The use of "sedition" ("conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch") is, if we want to play diGenova's game, in this case itself an instance of sedition (encouraging people to rebel against Congress's constitutional duty to investigate for possible impeachment where evidence warrants it.

Each of these terms is being used to rile up the right wing base. That's why he's using them with all the connotations they carry.
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He continued: “It’s pretty obvious that this first suicide bomber who sent that complaint to the inspector general was a paid Democratic operative of the Democratic Party.”
It's not obvious at all. Worse, there's absolutely no evidence for the charge.

As to Ingraham's "they need to get a sense of humor", I already have one. Do you actually wish to argue that diGenova is doing no more than a Mark Twain bit of light-hearted satire?

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 9 Oct, 2019 10:51 pm
@blatham,
Trump defended his decision to withdraw US troops from northern Syria, allowing for Turkey to launch a military offensive against US-allied Kurdish forces in the region, noting that the Kurds "didn’t help us in the second world war, they didn’t help us with Normandy as an example – they mention the names of different battles, they weren’t there".

Trump appeared to be referring to an article in the Town Hall website by conservative writer Kurt Schlichter that included a reference to the Kurds and Normandy.
Kurt Schlichter wrote:
The Kurds helped destroy ISIS, true. It’s also true that the Kurds would have fought ISIS anyway, since the psycho caliphate was right next door. Let’s be honest – the Kurds didn’t show up for us at Normandy or Inchon or Khe Sanh or Kandahar. The Syrian Kurds allied with us in their homeland because we shared a common interest in wiping out the head-lopping freak show that was ISIS.
Source

Kurdish forces fought alongside the US against the Islamic State for nearly five years, losing roughly 11,000 fighters.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 9 Oct, 2019 10:56 pm
Can't just dirty up Trump all day. Let's try Hunter Biden.
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But in between trips to rehab and legendary drug benders. In 2016, shortly after he started dating Hallie Biden, Beau's widow, Hunter made plans to stay at a detox center in Arizona. But he somehow got sidetracked during a stopover in Los Angeles, and ended up missing the next wing of his flight. Instead, he traveled to Skid Row, where he was reportedly held up at gun point, but nevertheless apparently succeeded in buying and using crack, causing him to return several times over the following days. Eventually, Hunter Biden took a Hertz rental car to his treatment center in Arizona, but workers at the Hertz office called the police after finding a crack pipe and baggie of crack, along with Biden's license and a badge from Beau's time as Delaware AG.

Definitely a steal for Burisma at only 50,000 a month.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/inside-hunter-bidens-dealings-shadowy-foreign-firms
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 9 Oct, 2019 11:24 pm

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Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP

Ukrainian source. Dad is overpaid too.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Wed 9 Oct, 2019 11:39 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Trump enjoys watching people die....it makes him feel powerful...he's just a sleazy. amoral, vicious asshat. And so are his followers,.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 01:04 am
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The US did not give Turkey a "green light" for its offensive in northern Syria, the US secretary of state says.

Mike Pompeo defended President Donald Trump's decision to withdraw US troops from the border area, which sparked an outcry at home and abroad.

Turkey has now launched an assault on territory held by Kurdish-led forces, allies of the US in the region.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the aim was to "prevent the creation of a terror corridor" on the border.

Turkish forces plan to create a "safe zone" cleared of Kurdish militias which will also house Syrian refugees.

But critics say the operation could lead to ethnic cleansing of the local Kurdish population and a revival of the Islamic State (IS) militant group.

Kurdish-led forces vowed to resist the offensive and have already clashed with Turkish troops.

The Kurds - who helped defeat IS in Syria and were key US allies in that fight - guard thousands of IS fighters and their relatives in prisons and camps in areas under their control. It is unclear whether they will continue to do so if battles break out.

The US military says it has taken custody of two British detainees notorious for their roles in an IS cell that tortured and killed nearly 30 Western hostages.

The two men, El Shafee Elsheikh and Alexanda Kotey, were part of a British cell nicknamed The Beatles.

They have now been removed from a prison run by the Kurdish-led militia in northern Syria.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49995494

Pompeo isn't saying anything we didn't know. Erdogan didn't invade because Trump gave him the green light he invaded because Trump is weak and spineless.

Isn't he supposed to be destroying Turkey's economy right now?

Securing two high profile IS members is really reassuring, it's alright if all the other unknown IS operatives melt back into Syria as long as "The Beatles" are caught.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 01:09 am
Long article in today's Guardian on main polluters.

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The Guardian today reveals the 20 fossil fuel companies whose relentless exploitation of the world’s oil, gas and coal reserves can be directly linked to more than one-third of all greenhouse gas emissions in the modern era.

New data from world-renowned researchers reveals how this cohort of state-owned and multinational firms are driving the climate emergency that threatens the future of humanity, and details how they have continued to expand their operations despite being aware of the industry’s devastating impact on the planet.

The analysis, by Richard Heede at the Climate Accountability Institute in the US, the world’s leading authority on big oil’s role in the escalating climate emergency, evaluates what the global corporations have extracted from the ground, and the subsequent emissions these fossil fuels are responsible for since 1965 – the point at which experts say the environmental impact of fossil fuels was known by both industry leaders and politicians.

The top 20 companies on the list have contributed to 35% of all energy-related carbon dioxide and methane worldwide, totalling 480bn tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent (GtCO2e) since 1965.


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/09/revealed-20-firms-third-carbon-emissions

Considerably more at link including names.
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 02:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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they didn’t help us with Normandy as an example
He's an intellectual colossus.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 02:49 am
@glitterbag,
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he's just a sleazy. amoral, vicious asshat. And so are his followers,.
yes he is and yes they are
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 02:51 am
@izzythepush,
Thanks izzy. Good link.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 02:55 am
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In 2017, President Donald Trump reportedly pushed then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to ask the Justice Department to drop its case against one of Rudy Giuliani’s clients.

According a Bloomberg report on Wednesday, Trump wanted the DOJ to terminate its criminal case against Reza Zarrab, an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was charged with evading U.S. sanctions against Iran.

At the time, Zarrab was represented by former U.S. General Attorney Michael Mukasey and Giuliani, a longtime friend of Trump’s (the President had not yet hired Giuliani to be his personal lawyer).

Tillerson reportedly rejected Trump’s request, and others in the meeting were “shocked,” per Bloomberg’s description.
TPM

Must be false. There's no other evidence suggesting Trump/Giuliani corruption.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 03:04 am
Gowdy is back in the news, as many of you will have noticed. He's possibly going to join Trump's impeachment defense team. Here's a relevant quote from the fellow:
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During his days as head of the House Oversight Committee in 2012, Gowdy led the committee’s vote to hold then-Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt for not turning over some documents relevant to the then-Operation Fast and Furious investigation. The vote came after the Obama administration allowed the attorney general to invoke executive privilege over some of the records.

“The notion that you can withhold information and documents from Congress no matter whether you’re the part in power or not in power is wrong,” he said in 2012, chiding from his seat as House Oversight chairman. “Respect for the rule of law must mean something irrespective of the vicissitudes of political cycles.”

And he's said much more of the same sort, that is, statements which precisely contradict the Trump administration's position on impeachment handling. As TPM notes, this doesn't really make much sense to bring him into the legal team.
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 03:25 am
Trump defends abandoning the Kurds by saying they didn't help the US in WWII

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"They didn't help us in the Second World War; they didn't help us with Normandy," Trump said of the Kurds. He added, "With all of that being said, we like the Kurds."
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 03:27 am
Trump Urged Aide to Help Giuliani Client Facing Charges

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President Donald Trump pressed then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to help persuade the Justice Department to drop a criminal case against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was a client of Rudy Giuliani, according to three people familiar with the 2017 meeting in the Oval Office.

Tillerson refused, arguing it would constitute interference in an ongoing investigation of the trader, Reza Zarrab, according to the people. They said other participants in the Oval Office were shocked by the request.

bloomberg

Real Music has posted more on this story HERE.
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Builder
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 03:39 am
@glitterbag,
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Trump enjoys watching people die


Must be par for the course, being prez.

Obama dropped more bombs than GW Bush, or his daddy.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 03:58 am
@hightor,
I don't think they helped you during the war of independence or in 1812 either.
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 04:00 am
@izzythepush,
Maybe Donald will hire them to help secure our southern border.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 04:41 am
Ed Kilgore has a piece up on the sudden passionate rejection by the christian right of Trump's decision re Erdogan and the Kurds. It's well worth reading. But I'll just note one corner of this...
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You have to figure that the Christian Right leader most discomfited by this sudden disagreement is Faith and Freedom Coalition founder Ralph Reed, who is reportedly working on a 2020 campaign book instructing Christians they have a religious obligation to support Trump’s reelection.

Maybe Mike Pence will pray with the boss and place his feet back on the paths of righteousness.


Reed is one of the more despicable persons in the modern christian right world (though there's a lot of competition). Some will recall his involvement with Jack Abramoff in a corrupt scheme to pocket money ($82 million) from First Nations tribes. That's just one of a number of corrupt deals this guy has been involved in.

In the last week, there has been reporting on Reed's soon to be released book including this Politico piece
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‘Render to God and Trump’: Ralph Reed calls for 2020 obedience to Trump
An upcoming book by the Faith and Freedom Coalition founder will argue evangelicals have a duty to defend the incumbent GOP leader.

...According to the book's description, obtained by POLITICO, the original title for the book was “Render to God and Trump,” a reference to the well-known biblical verse, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s.” The message from Jesus in Matthew 22, has been used in contemporary politics to justify obedience to government — or in the case of Reed’s book, to Trump.

Regnery Publishing confirmed the book’s existence but said the title is “For God and Country: The Christian case for Trump.” The publisher declined to comment on the reason for the title change.

That bolded bit caught my attention when I read the piece. That notion, that the populace ought to bow to the wishes of the state on certain matters, comes up now and again in the world of the christian right. But only when there is a Republican in office.

One never did hear from these guys the phrase "Render unto Obama (or unto Clinton) the things that are Obama's (or Clinton's). And one never will hear it from these guys.

Reed is now, like many, many other leaders in the christian right, a multi-millionaire.
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 05:41 am
"Trying to overturn the results of the 2016 election!" — you hear this a lot from Trump supporters upset about the impeachment probe. Besides just being stupid, as if election to office gives one immunity from prosecution (and apparently even suspicion), it's also blatantly incorrect as Mr. Pence was elected by the voters to fill Mr. Trump's place were he unable to continue in office.

Moving right along...

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"The worst single mistake ever made in the history of our country: going into the Middle East, by President Bush," the President said. "Obama may have gotten [U.S.] soldiers out wrong, but going in is, to me, the biggest single mistake made in the history of our country."


Well, yeah, he's got a point. But one wonders what he actually would have done differently. What would his response to 9/11 have been? Send in the Kurds?

Send in the clowns.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 10 Oct, 2019 05:44 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
"Trying to overturn the results of the 2016 election!" -- you hear this a lot from Trump supporters upset about the impeachment probe. Besides just being stupid, as if election to office gives one immunity from prosecution (and apparently even suspicion), it's also blatantly incorrect as Mr. Pence was elected by the voters to fill Mr. Trump's place were he unable to continue in office.

It's a reasonable characterization when you consider the fact that Trump did nothing wrong and the Democrats are trying to remove him from office over nothing simply because they disagree with him.
 

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