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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 08:54 am
@glitterbag,
Dubya's administration was a disaster, marked by an illegal war in the Middle East which set the tone for subsequent years. The conflicts in Syria and Yemen have direct causal links. Dubya's Pariot Act took away rights from all Americans and frightened the media so much that in the run up to the illegal war it just repeated government propaganda.

Trump's administration has been as bad, from sucking up to despotic regimes, allowing them to murder American residents, disastrous environmental issues, racism and the rise of Neo Nazis.

These things are all proven, but there's going to be an election next year, and the best way to deal with facts it to throw mud at them.

That's what they're doing now, by repeating all the nonsense about 9/11 they're trying to smear legitimate criticism of both regimes. The more people hear the bullshit about 9/11 the more likely they are to believe the big lie, that the invasion of Iraq was legal.

That's why Trump's supporters are doing this regardless of what guise they try to adopt.
JTT
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 08:56 am
@blatham,
These are "relevant contemporary events", blatham. A new poll finds,

Quote:
A solid majority of Americans who watch the Sept. 11, 2001, collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on video don’t buy the government’s story that fires brought it down, according to a new survey conducted by YouGov on behalf of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.


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JTT
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 08:58 am
@blatham,
Stunning intellectual cowardliness comes to mind as I read your post, bernie. Can you explain why?
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JTT
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:02 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Dubya's administration was a disaster, marked by an illegal war in the Middle East ...


You "forgot" to mention that these "illegal wars", which the UK fully supported and helped launch were all based on the Bush/Blair lies about OBL and alleged Muslim hijackers, for whom there was never, still now is not a shred of evidence for their involvement.

Children could see thru a charade like this but not Izzy.
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JTT
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:05 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
That's what they're doing now, by repeating all the nonsense about 9/11 they're trying to smear legitimate criticism of both regimes. The more people hear the bullshit about 9/11 the more likely they are to believe the big lie, that the invasion of Iraq was legal.


What utter drivel!!

Why are you calling NYC firemen liars, Izzy? Without any evidence, as always!!

New York firefighters will recall “heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel.” [NEW YORK POST, 3/3/2004]

As late as five months after the attacks, in February 2002, firefighter Joe O’Toole sees a steel beam being lifted from deep underground at Ground Zero, which, he says, “was dripping from the molten steel.” [KNIGHT RIDDER, 5/29/2002]
izzythepush
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:07 am
@JTT,
Carry on like this and you'll get the job you've so jealously desired all your life, that of Trump's chief arselicker.

Don't expect anyone to take your **** seriously, except maybe builder and he's just another false flag fascist.
JTT
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:13 am
@blatham,
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You really ought to start a thread on this and pitch your tent over there. God speed.


More hypocrisy, bernie. You, pitching "god".

You know, Bernie, there really isn't a word to describe how people like you folks are acting. You see evidence for things that are totally impossible - 1500F WTC fires melting [2800F] and vaporizing [4900+F] WTC structural steel from all three buildings - wanna see pictures of said steel? - and still y'all soldier on in your delusions.

You really are like children. Hit with reality, with evidence, with facts that are irrefutable, you run and hide.
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JTT
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:18 am
@izzythepush,
"people" who up vote the drivel you post, Izzy, are intellectual cowards just like
you and the rest of the children who have all fled.

Adults ask for evidence, y'all just flee like the cowards you all are.

So explain why you are calling all the eyewitnesses liars, Izzy.

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William Langewiesche, the only journalist to have unrestricted access to Ground Zero during the cleanup operation, will describe, “n the early days, the streams of molten metal that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole.” [LANGEWIESCHE, 2002, PP. 32]


Leslie Robertson, one of the structural engineers responsible for the design of the WTC, describes fires still burning and molten steel still running 21 days after the attacks. [SEAU NEWS, 10/2001 pdf file]

Alison Geyh, who heads a team of scientists studying the potential health effects of 9/11, reports: “Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel.” [JOHNS HOPKINS PUBLIC HEALTH MAGAZINE, 2001]

Ron Burger, a public health advisor who arrives at Ground Zero on September 12, says that “feeling the heat” and “seeing the molten steel” there reminds him of a volcano. [NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION, 9/2003, PP. 40 pdf file]

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hightor
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:18 am
@JTT,
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Builder sure ain't running away from reality like you and others, hightor.

Okay, but what's that have to do with using search engines as a primary source?
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Have you no sense whatsoever of just how diligently you all are denying reality??

Um, no — I'm just trying to help Builder to improve his posts.
JTT
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:20 am
@hightor,
You are STUDIOUSLY avoiding reality. All your actions are so incredibly child like, without the usual sweetness.

And no shame from any of you.
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JTT
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:23 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Okay, but what's that have to do with using search engines as a primary source?


You see where your "primary sources" have gotten all you "adults", don't you?

How did 1500F WTC fires melt and vaporize WTCs 1, 2 & 7 structural steel, hightor?

Have none of you any respect for science and scientific principles?
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:34 am
@hightor,
I've just finished watching the brilliant conspiracy thriller Utopia. One of the characters reminds me of JTT. Wilson Wilson is a full blown conspiracy nut, but when it turns out that some of the conspiracies are true he joins in and becomes just as bad as the rest.

https://live.staticflickr.com/3844/14480464698_9a3c70a06b_b.jpg
JTT
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:35 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Okay, but what's that have to do with using search engines as a primary source?


Primary sources are eyewitnesses but you seem to keep calling all these NYC firemen and US government scientists and experts liars. Why?
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Some witnesses reportedly see a massive fireball at ground level, coming from the South Tower just before it starts to collapse. According to a report by the Mineta Transportation Institute (a research institute founded by Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta), “People inside the South Tower felt the floor vibrate as if a small earthquake were occurring.… The vibration lasted for about 30 seconds. The doors were knocked out, and a huge ball of flame created by the exploding diesel fuel from the building’s own supply tank shot from the elevator shaft and out the doors of the South Tower, consuming everything in its path. Minutes later, at 9:59 a.m., the tower collapsed.” [JENKINS AND EDWARDS-WINSLOW, 9/2003, PP. 16
JTT
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:38 am
@izzythepush,
I have noticed how you are one wrapped up in the abstract world of TV and movies, Izzy. Try reality on for size. Like FEMA, the NYTs, a bernie favorite.
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I-A. The 2002 FEMA Report
New York Times journalist James Glanz, writing near the end of 2001 about the collapse of WTC 7, reported that some engineers said that a “combination of an uncontrolled fire and the structural damage might have been able to bring the building down,” but that this “would not explain,” according to Dr. Barnett, “steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures.” [13]
Glanz was referring to Jonathan Barnett, a professor of fire protection engineering at the Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI). Early in 2002, Barnett and two WPI colleagues published an analysis of a section of steel from one of the Twin Towers, along with sections from WTC 7, as an appendix to FEMA’s 2002 World Trade Center Building Performance Study. [14] Their discoveries were also reported in a WPI article entitled “The ‘Deep Mystery’ of Melted Steel,” which said:

“[S]teel – which has a melting point of 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit [1538°C] – may weaken and bend, but does not melt during an ordinary office fire. Yet metallurgical studies on WTC steel brought back to WPI reveal that a novel phenomenon – called a eutectic reaction – occurred at the surface, causing intergranular melting capable of turning a solid steel girder into Swiss cheese.”

Stating that the New York Times called these findings “perhaps the deepest mystery uncovered in the investigation,” the article added:

“A one-inch column has been reduced to half-inch thickness. Its edges – which are curled like a paper scroll – have been thinned to almost razor sharpness. Gaping holes – some larger than a silver dollar – let light shine through a formerly solid steel flange. This Swiss cheese appearance shocked all of the fire-wise professors, who expected to see distortion and bending – but not holes.” [15]

In discussing “the deepest mystery,” the New York Times story said: “The steel apparently melted away, but no fire in any of the buildings was believed to be hot enough to melt steel outright.” [16] That was an understatement, because a building fire, even with a perfect mixture of air and fuel, could at most reach 1,000°C (1,832°F). [17] In fact, Professor Thomas Eagar of MIT estimated that the fires were “probably only about 1,200 or 1,300°F [648 or 704°C].” [18]

http://www.consensus911.org/point-tt-6/
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:41 am
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-USA0EwOC77U/U-49EIPjIKI/AAAAAAAABJ0/Qxb65P855WA/s1600/Utopia%2B2x06%2B-%2BAdeel%2BAkhtar%2B(Wilson%2BWilson%2C%2BMr.%2BRabbit%2C%2BSr.%2BConejo).jpg
JTT
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:45 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
and relevant contemporary events


Can you think of anything more contemporary and IMPORTANT than,

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KTVA Alaska (CBS) Covers U of Alaska Hulsey 9/11 WTC 7 Study 9/6/2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK-qt7cZBQM
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The UofA - F study found that NIST's WTC7 study was impossible.
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JTT
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:50 am
@izzythepush,
Try science and reality instead of childishness, Izzy. Why has everyone fled from reality, from these incredibly important CONTEMPORARY events?
revelette1
 
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Mon 16 Sep, 2019 10:00 am
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The Russian government hacked into the FBI's communication system to stop the bureau from being able to track Russian spies working in the US, Yahoo News reported in a bombshell investigation published Monday.

The US first became aware of "the full gravity" of Russia's ability to breach certain types of secure communications and track devices used by FBI surveillance teams in 2012, the report said. In addition to fearing the Russians may have gained access to US intelligence channels, officials also believed Russian spies could locate undercover FBI surveillance teams and the substance of FBI communications.

That would not only have enabled the Russians to evade being surveilled and communicate with human sources, it also gave them the opportunity to collect information about their pursuers, Yahoo reported. It also prompted concerns among officials that there was a Russian asset lurking within the US intelligence community.

The Russians first breached the FBI's communication systems in 2010, after the arrest and exposure of a group of Russian spies in the US. That year, the FBI began investigating Russia's efforts to recruit US assets, and one of their foremost targets was Carter Page, who later served as a foreign policy aide on President Donald Trump's campaign.

The FBI informed Page in 2013 that the Russians were trying to cultivate him, but Page ignored their warnings and even publicly boasted about his connections to high-ranking Russian government officials.

The Russians are also said to have breached the backup communication channels the FBI used, which one former senior counterintelligence official told Yahoo News the US took "extremely seriously."

The investigation found that Russia's hack of the FBI's communication systems was a key reason why former President Barack Obama's administration kicked out 35 Russian diplomats and shuttered two Russian diplomatic facilities in December 2016.

Obama announced that the measures were being taken in retaliation for Russia's interference in the 2016 election, but Yahoo News reported that the US also wanted to shut down those two compounds because they were critical to Russia's efforts to intercept FBI communications.

Both Russia and the US have ramped up their counterintelligence and cybersecurity operations against one another in recent years as tensions between the two countries continue to mount.

In particular, the US has recently targeted Russia's electrical grid and placed potentially crippling malware within the Russian system, The New York Times reported in June. Power grids have long been the focus of cyberattacks, but the US's operation is the most aggressive yet and is meant to serve as a warning to Russia, as well as position the US to carry out additional cyber attacks in the event of a conflict with Moscow.

The Times cited two administration officials as saying there was "broad hesitation" to brief Trump in much detail about the operation, in part because of concerns over how Trump would react, or that he would shut down the operation or discuss it with foreign officials.

The fears came after Trump in 2017 revealed classified information to two Russian officials in an Oval Office meeting. That disclosure contributed to the US's decision to extract a top CIA asset in Russia shortly after, CNN reported last week.

Other US media outlets subsequently published key identifying details about the asset, and Russian state-sponsored media later said it had a name for the intelligence operative. Shortly after, the Russian government filed a request with Interpol for more information about the spy.



https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-hacked-fbi-to-prevent-tracking-russian-spies-us-report-2019-9

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snood
 
  3  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 10:03 am
@JTT,
Hey where have you been? Seems like I hadn’t seen a post from you for years.

Also, suppose you were able to convince everyone on A2K of the reality and seriousness of everything you say about 9/11.
What would you suggest everyone do, then?
revelette1
 
  2  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 10:04 am
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The acting director of national intelligence is withholding a mysterious whistleblower complaint of 'urgent concern' that may involve Trump

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) is withholding a whistleblower complaint alleging serious wrongdoing within the intelligence community that may involve President Donald Trump or senior administration officials, the House Intelligence Committee disclosed on Friday.

California Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the committee, subpoenaed the acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI), Joseph Maguire, to turn over the complaint on Friday evening.

"A month ago, a whistleblower within the intelligence community lawfully filed a complaint regarding a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law, or deficiency within the responsibility or authority of the Director of National Intelligence," Schiff said in a statement. The Intelligence Community Inspector General (IC IG) determined that the complaint was credible and a matter of "urgent concern."

The IC IG first notified the committee of the whistleblower complaint on September 9. The next day, Schiff requested a full, unredacted copy of the complaint, the IC IG's findings related to the matter, and all records connected to the ODNI's involvement, "including any and all correspondence with other Executive Branch actors including the White House."

Schiff said the acting DNI was required by law to turn over the complaint to congressional intelligence committees more than ten days ago but refuses to do so.

The ODNI officially declined the committee's request on Friday and said Maguire is withholding the complaint in part because it "involves confidentially and potentially privileged communications by persons outside the Intelligence Community."

Schiff said it's unclear "whether this decision to withhold the disclosure was made only by you, or whether it involved interference by other parties, including the White House."

Notably, Schiff revealed that Maguire consulted the Justice Department about the whistleblower complaint, which is a major departure from the norm. He also disclosed that the ODNI refused to comment on whether the White House was involved in the decision to withhold the whistleblower complaint, and whether the complaint relates to any matters being investigated by the committee.

"The Committee can only conclude, based on this remarkable confluence of factors, that the serious misconduct at issue involves the President of the United States and/or other senior White House or Administration officials," Schiff said. He added that the ODNI's actions raise "serious concerns" that the complaint is being withheld specifically to shield Trump or other administration officials.


https://www.businessinsider.com/house-intelligence-committee-subpoena-whistleblower-complaint-trump-2019-9
 

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