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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 04:12 am
@izzythepush,
Not a lot of difference between Netanyahu and Putin. Or Trump. There's three of a type.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 04:35 am
@blatham,
That story was hidden away from the trump supporting mainstream media.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 04:38 am
Quote:
The US Department of Justice has said it will reveal a key name sought by people suing Saudi Arabia for alleged involvement in the 9/11 attacks.

It says the information will be shared with lawyers representing the victims' families. It is unclear if the person's identity will become public.

Fifteen of the 19 al-Qaeda hijackers who staged the attacks were Saudis.

In 2004, the 9/11 commission set up by Congress found no evidence that the Saudi government funded al-Qaeda.

However, a 2012 report by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) said the agency was investigating Fahad al-Thumairy and Omar Ahmed al-Bayoumi, Saudi nationals who had allegedly helped the attackers.

Mr al-Thumairy is a former Saudi consulate official, and Mr al-Bayoumi was once suspected of being a Saudi intelligence officer, according to the Washington Post.

The FBI report, which was released in a redacted form, also referred to the third person. But the name was blacked out.

The victims' families suing the Saudi government have been demanding for the identity of that person to be released.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49686128
JTT
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 05:01 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Fifteen of the 19 al-Qaeda hijackers who staged the attacks were Saudis.


There were no Muslim hijackers on 9-11, Izzy. I have bolded the important part of the following resolution passed by a Fire Commission that is very close to NYC.
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The Franklin Square and Munson Fire District 9/11 Resolution

Whereas, the attacks of September 11, 2001, are inextricably and forever tied to the Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department;

Whereas, on September 11, 2001, while operating at the World Trade Center in New York City, firefighter Thomas J. Hetzel, badge #290 of Hook and Ladder Company #1, Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department of New York, was killed in performance of his duties, along with 2,976 other emergency responders and civilians;

Whereas, members of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department were called upon to assist in the subsequent rescue and recovery operations and cleanup of the World Trade Center site, afflicting many of them with life-threatening illnesses as a result of breathing the deadly toxins present at the site;

Whereas, the Board of Fire Commissioners of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District recognizes the significant and compelling nature of the petition before the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York reporting un-prosecuted federal crimes at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and calling upon the United States Attorney to present that petition to a Special Grand Jury pursuant to the United States Constitution and 18 U.S.C. SS 3332(A);

Whereas, the overwhelming evidence presented in said petition demonstrates beyond any doubt that pre-planted explosives and/or incendiaries — not just airplanes and the ensuing fires — caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings, killing the vast majority of the victims who perished that day;

Whereas, the victims of 9/11, their families, the people of New York City, and our nation deserve that every crime related to the attacks of September 11, 2001, be investigated to the fullest and that every person who was responsible face justice;

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Fire Commissioners of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District fully supports a comprehensive federal grand jury investigation and prosecution of every crime related to the attacks of September 11, 2001, as well as any and all efforts by other government entities to investigate and uncover the full truth surrounding the events of that horrible day.
glitterbag
 
  3  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 05:08 pm
Sighhhhhhhhhhhh.
JTT
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 05:14 pm
@glitterbag,
I would think that this momentous news would warrant more than a sigh. The commissioners were unanimous in their support for the US federal grand jury in NYC investigating the crimes of that day.

The scientific evidence is absolutely overwhelming. WTCs 1, 2 & 7 were blown up.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 05:15 pm
@JTT,
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military targets.

And Japan did not offer to surrender until both cities were bombed.

So there. Razz
JTT
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 05:16 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
In 2004, the 9/11 commission set up by Congress found no evidence that the Saudi government funded al-Qaeda.


The 9/11 Commission was set up by the Bush administration. Set and guided by Philip Zelikow. Run daily by Zelikow. Run by Zelikow to come to a pre-determined conclusion totally unsupported by science or the evidence.
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JTT
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 05:24 pm
@oralloy,
The twin towers and WTC7 were also military targets, targets of the usa military nanothermite found in WTC dust.

I have included the short Abstract which describes this discovery of usa military nanothermite in WTC dust.

Again, the evidence is absolutely overwhelming and it all shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that WTCs 1, 2 & 7 were controlled demolitions.

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Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the
destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in
this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan
resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later.
The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy
dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation
of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum
are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 ˚C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich
spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these
chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 05:36 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
The twin towers and WTC7 were also military targets,

No they weren't.
JTT
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 05:38 pm
@glitterbag,
Are you of the opinion that NYC firefighters, first responders, news media, citizen eyewitnesses, ... are all bald faced liars, glitterbag?

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- New York firefighters will recall “heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel.” [NEW YORK POST, 3/3/2004]

- As late as five months after the attacks, in February 2002, firefighter Joe O’Toole sees a steel beam being lifted from deep underground at Ground Zero, which, he says, “was dripping from the molten steel.” [KNIGHT RIDDER, 5/29/2002]
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JTT
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 05:47 pm
@oralloy,
Yes, they were, oralloy. The usa military nanothermite says they were. Nanothermite is the ONLY thing that can explain WTCs 1, 2 & 7 molten and vaporized structural steel.

Perhaps you can explain how 1500F WTC fires were able to melt WTCs 1, 2 & 7 structural steel, melting point 2800F.

Perhaps you can explain how 1500F WTC fires were able to vaporize WTCs 1, 2 & 7 structural steel, 4900F.
oralloy
 
  0  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 05:49 pm
@JTT,
That is incorrect. They were not full of soldiers like Hiroshima was. They were not full of weapons factories like Nagasaki was. And we were not at war like Japan was.
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Builder
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 10:01 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
The scientific evidence is absolutely overwhelming.


Independent studies by other nations, who lost people and assets that day, were concluded months after the event. Most of the world has moved on.

Quote:
WTCs 1, 2 & 7 were blown up.


In demolition parlance, they were pulled down. Mostly into their own footprint.

Building 7 being a classic example of a near-perfect technical demolition.

Building 1 and 2 were more challenging; requiring extensive work at the basement level before the tops could be brought down.

Quote:
I would think that this momentous news would warrant more than a sigh.


The mainstream media, and social media, mostly ignored the anniversary of the event, given the recent "findings" re building 7.
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Builder
 
  0  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 10:03 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military targets.


I googled your claim, above. Here's the response from the largest search engine on the planet.

You might like to try it sometimes, yourself, before making a fool of yourself, again.

Quote:
It was also claimed that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate military targets. ... Nagasaki had no military units and, of the total 140,000 deaths there, only about 150 were military. In total, over 95 per cent of the combined casualties of the two cities were civilian.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 11:16 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
You might like to try it sometimes, yourself, before making a fool of yourself, again.

When you post ignorant gibberish without knowing what you are talking about, that doesn't make a fool of me.


Quote:
Nagasaki had no military units

Nagasaki was an industrial center that built some of Japan's largest warships and many of their submarines. They also designed and built the special torpedoes that were created to defeat Pearl Harbor's defenses.

The damage dealt to the torpedo factory was quite satisfactory I might add:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080917202627if_/cfo.doe.gov/me70/manhattan/images/NagasakiMitsubishiLarge.jpg


Quote:
of the total 140,000 deaths there,

The largest credible estimate of the number of deaths at Nagasaki is 80,000.


Quote:
In total, over 95 per cent of the combined casualties of the two cities were civilian.

Wrong again. Between 9% and 13% of the deaths were Japanese soldiers, most preparing to resist our invasion.

Counting deaths ignores the damage that was done to the weapons factories.
Builder
 
  0  
Sun 15 Sep, 2019 11:35 pm
@oralloy,

Quote:
When you post ignorant gibberish


It's a direct quote from the largest search engine on the planet.

Take it up with them.
roger
 
  2  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 12:14 am
@Builder,
A search engine is not a source. It provides source(s). You found one that agrees with you.

I don't really care about your or his point, but citing a search engine as a source is just deceptive.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 12:50 am
@roger,
roger wrote:
I don't really care about your or his point, but citing a search engine as a source is just deceptive.
Even more when not naming and linking it.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Mon 16 Sep, 2019 12:56 am
Oh shoot, the termites are back.
 

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