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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 09:25 am
@Lash,
Your attempts to tie the Third Way crowd to the DNC and Democrats is disingenuous.
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 09:44 am
I think we ought to note that I've not mentioned the US women's open. This is because I'm just not that sort of person.
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revelette1
 
  2  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 09:52 am
@blatham,
I'm glad of this news. It would interesting to watch Warren and Trump debate. At least it wouldn't two old white men; both of whom would be better off stepping away from the public eye.
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edgarblythe
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2019 09:56 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Your attempts to tie the Third Way crowd to the DNC and Democrats is disingenuous.

And yet they work in tandem.
Lash
 
  0  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:01 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Your attempts to tie the Third Way crowd to the DNC and Democrats is disingenuous.

That’s some incredibly bold lying from you. You’re in bed with a Koch. Might as well be Trump. You’re helping Trump.
https://www.salon.com/2019/08/14/koch-brothers-funded-centrist-democratic-group-third-way-according-to-new-book/

Excerpt:

Koch brothers funded centrist Democratic group Third Way, according to new book
Koch Industries reportedly funded a 2007 Third Way report meant to boost support for "free trade" policies

IGOR DERYSH
AUGUST 14, 2019 1:00PM (UTC)

Koch Industries secretly funded a report by Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank, to sell liberals on their trade agenda, according to the new book “Kochland” by investigative reporter Christopher Leonard.

The Kochs enlisted the help of Third Way, a corporate-funded centrist group that has long opposed progressive populists like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, after the Democrats won control of Congress in 2006, according to excerpts from Leonard's book published by The Intercept. Concerned that Democrats were souring on free trade, which threatened their oil importation business, the Kochs sought to use the group to promote free trade to Democrats.

Third Way issued a report, titled “Why Lou Dobbs is Winning” — a reference to the right-wing Fox News host’s economic nationalist agenda — in November 2007. The report warned of a “new and powerful populist strain has emerged on both the left and the right of American politics that threatens to turn the nation fearful and inward.”

The group did not report any funding from Koch Industries or their affiliates, but it did thank Koch Industries lobbyist and former Koch executive Rob Hall “for his support in helping us conceive of and design Third Way’s trade project.”

The report warned that polls found that voters believed free trade costs jobs and benefited large companies. Leonard noted in the book that the angst over these trade policies was well founded because “they did not deliver the economic benefits they had promised to huge swaths of the American population.”

The report urged Democrats to “counter neopopulism effectively” with a “new policy and message approach that can and will be more effective” in promoting free trade.

The report was released in 2007 in coordination with two members of Congress, Rep. Joe Crowley of New York and Rep. Melissa Bean of Illinois.

“We all have to begin to speak differently about trade, how it benefits the economy and foreign policy, how it helps Americans and people abroad,” Crowley told Politico that year.

Crowley later became the fourth-ranked Democrat in the House before losing his 2018 Democratic primary race to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. He now works at a lobbying firm and chairs a group fighting to pass Trump’s revised NAFTA deal. Bean went on to work for JPMorgan Chase before being named chief executive of a wealth management and advisory firm.

The outreach to Third Way was far from the Kochs’ only effort to influence Democratic politics, although it has been more customary for the billionaire brothers to back Republicans. Koch Industries was also a member of the executive council of the Democratic Leadership Council, another centrist group aimed at countering progressives inside the party. Hall, whom Third Way thanked for conceiving and designing its report, was a member of the DLC’s event committee.

Third Way has continued to criticize progressive populists in recent years, particularly those who oppose free trade policies, including Sens. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass, and Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., both of whom are 2020 presidential candidates Third Way leaders wrote an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal in 2013 attacking Warren and arguing she would take the party off a “populist cliff.” The authors claimed that “nothing would be more disastrous for Democrats” than to support Warren’s proposed economic reforms.

Earlier this year, as Warren rose in the polls of likely Democratic voters, the group changed its mind about her, arguing that Warren's policies are “manageable” because she “believes in capitalism.” The group has said it still views Sanders as an “existential threat.”
revelette1
 
  3  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:07 am
Quote:
The Trump administration’s efforts to capture the Adrian Darya is a small part of its “maximum pressure” campaign – aimed at reducing Iran’s oil exports to zero, strangling its economy, and forcing its leaders into negotiations with President Donald Trump. Trump withdrew the U.S. from the 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and other world powers, saying it did not do enough to curb the Islamic Republic's ballistic missile program and support for terrorism.

Experts say Iran’s ability to keep the Darya out of the U.S. government’s long reach illustrates the shortfalls of the U.S. strategy. And it comes as Iran leaders once again rejected negotiations with Washington, saying Trump must lift U.S. sanctions first.

On Saturday, Iran further reduced its compliance with the nuclear deal, saying it has begun injecting uranium gas into advanced centrifuges and that the country will no longer abide by the deal's limits on its nuclear research and development.


“The Iranians are not capitulating,” said Barbara Slavin, director of the Future of Iran Initiative at the Atlantic Council, a foreign policy think tank in Washington. “They’re not saying ... ‘Please, Mr. Trump, can we have a meeting with you?’”

Instead, Iran has launched its own aggressive strategy, downing an American drone, allegedly sabotaging other ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz, and using circuitous shipping routes and cloaked transponders to move its own oil.

The Adrian Darya – previously named Grace 1– began its current journey in mid-April, starting in Iran's main export terminal where it apparently was loaded up with light crude oil, said Samir Madani, co-founder of TankerTrackers.com, a company that uses satellite imagery and other tools to track crude oil shipments. The ship's transponder was "cloaked" at the time, he said, and his firm couldn't get any images of it because of bad weather.

"She resurfaced then, heading back out of the Iran area but waited around in the Persian Gulf until around May," he said. "Then she left, sailing all the way around Africa" and apparently heading to the Mediterranean.

The two nations’ competing playbooks collided in July near Gibraltar, when the British Royal Navy seized the Adrian Darya, previously called the Grace 1. British and American officials suspected the ship was headed to Syria, in violation of European sanctions on oil sales to the brutal Assad regime in that war-torn country.

The Trump administration tried to seize the vessel from Gibraltar, saying the ship and its oil were subject to U.S. forfeiture based on alleged violations of bank fraud and money laundering statutes, and other crimes.

But officials in Gibraltar defied the U.S. legal move and released the oil tanker on Aug. 16. The ship’s captain, a 43-year-old Indian man named Akhilesh Kumar, steered the supertanker slowly away from Gibraltar and into international waters, according to Madani.

About a week later, as the Adrian Darya meandered toward the east Mediterranean, Kumar received a remarkable email.

“This is Brian Hook … I work for secretary of state Mike Pompeo and serve as the US Representative for Iran,” the Aug. 26 missive read. “I am writing with good news.” Hook confirmed to USA TODAY that he sent the email, which was first reported by the Financial Times.

Hook proceeded to offer the ship’s captain several million dollars, if he agreed to steer the vessel to a port where the U.S. could seize it.

“With this money you can have any life you wish and be well-off in old age,” Hook wrote in a second email. “If you choose not to take this easy path, life will be much harder for you.”

The captain apparently did not respond to Hook’s email. And on Aug. 30, the U.S. Treasury Department sanctioned the ship and Kumar. USA TODAY was unable to contact Kumar for comment or to confirm that he read the emails.

Iran's semi-official news agency labeled the move an attempted "bribe" and the country's foreign minister, Javad Zarif, derided it as desperate.
"Having failed at piracy, the US resorts to outright blackmail—deliver us Iran’s oil and receive several million dollars or be sanctioned yourself," Zarif tweeted on Wednesday.


More both before and after the above.


Trump's pulling out of the 2015 nuclear deal has worked so well. Iran has really knuckled under.
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blatham
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:07 am
@edgarblythe,
Yeah. That's why Bloomberg was welcomed with open arms by Dems and the DNC.
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Lash
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:12 am
The Third Way is the hatchet arm of the DNC—and doing everything in their power to kill progressivism to act like Republicans, by serving their own corrupt interests.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/democrats-progressives-new-leaders-david-brock-third-way-214811

*Be ashamed to try to lie your way out of this.*

David Brock speaks at the Clinton School of Public Service in Arkansas, March 25, 2014. | AP/Danny Johnston

The Wrong Way to Rebuild the Democratic Party
Democrats need to embrace a new vision. That means dumping the failed leaders of the past—including David Brock.
By LEAH HUNT-HENDRIX February 24, 2017
Leah Hunt-Hendrix is the co-founder and executive director of Solidaire, a community of individual donors and foundation allies committed to funding progressive social movements.

As Democrats and progressives rebuild for the Trump era, they need a bold vision and a new strategy. Now is not the time to re-litigate the fractious intraparty fights of years past. Instead, they need to rally around new leaders who offer a truly transformative way forward.

During the 2016 primaries, Democrats had a choice between an establishment candidate campaigning on her hard-won experience and insider credentials, or a liberal populist buoyed by a sea of small-dollar donors calling for big change. Democrats went with the status-quo candidate and experienced a general-election loss that grows more devastating with each day of the Trump presidency.

Clearly, we must face the fact that most Americans want significant changes. But rather than embracing this core lesson of 2016, Democratic establishment leaders—the very people who just lost the most important election in modern history—are using that defeat to grab more money and power, distracting allies from their failures by redirecting attention to the very real damage being done by Republicans. They embrace the same broken tactics, privileging well-connected insiders and an uninspiring agenda that was part of what led to their catastrophic loss—which would all but ensure further losses, more infighting and a deeply divided opposition to the Trump agenda.

Take, for instance, the continued prominence of David Brock and his organizations as centerpieces of the party apparatus. Brock is a conservative journalist-turned-liberal political strategist who some have called Hillary’s attack dog. To many progressives, Brock represents the insider, establishment wing of the party—the Wall Street Democrats who have roused the ire of Americans who rightly feel that they’ve been sold out. As a longstanding member of Hillary Clinton's team, during last year’s primaries, Brock orchestrated attacks on Bernie Sanders were brutal and unfair—as when he proclaimed that “it seems black lives don’t matter much to Bernie Sanders”—and exacerbated divides within the Democratic Party.

Now that the election is over, Brock is calling for unity. Days before Trump’s inauguration, he even wrote an open-letter apology to Sanders for his past insults. But Brock’s recent machinations—including a January conference where he promoted his own organizations amid chatter that he’ll launch a Koch Brothers-style donor network—show that he and those like him have no interest in learning from or adapting to what the country needs in this moment. Establishment figureheads are calling for Democrats to unify behind a common agenda, but it’s an old agenda with amorphous values, one that is more focused on defeating the right than on creating an economy and society that lifts up all people.

Brock is just one part of a broader constellation of insider efforts to maintain the dominance of the neoliberal wing of the Democratic Party against a rising progressive populism. Another such group is Third Way, the centrist think tank featured prominently at Brock’s January conference. Third Way’s president, Jonathan Cowan, is open about his intent to steer the party away from the likes of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and back toward an uninspiring, Republican-lite, status quo agenda (which makes sense given that a major component of Third Way’s budget comes from donors on Wall Street). Even now, in the wreckage of the 2016 election, Third Way has launched a $20 million effort to win back white working-class voters in the Rust Belt—seemingly ignorant of the fact that the pro-Wall Street, pro-free trade economic policies that Third Way has long promoted helped lead to the Rust Belt’s demise.

Whether Brock or Third Way, these establishment players and institutions are narrowly focused on taking down the right in a game of hyperpartisan insider powerplays. They fail to recognize that our country is indeed suffering from major structural problems—problems that demand a fresh approach. For Democrats to continue following those who brought us to this precipice—those who were, essentially, the architects of our 2016 loss—would be a huge and historic mistake. It would reinforce what Americans, progressives especially, hate most about politics: that it has become an arena for a well-connected, powerful few who enjoy a consequence-free existence.


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revelette1
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:12 am
Personally I believe in free trade and I also believe in democrat ideals, I don't find the two incompatible. Right now our country and much of world is depended on oil for it's energy. It is a simple fact. I also believe in funding for renewable energy and think more money should go towards it. We all have seen the results of Trump's tinkering with free trade, it has been disaster for farmers and those whose goods rely on trade around the world and for consumers.
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blatham
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:18 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Koch brothers funded centrist Democratic group Third Way
Not a revelation to anyone paying attention. That there is a contingent within the left or center-left who is deeply opposed to policies forwarded by Warren or Sanders or others (they hate de Blasio) tells you nothing about the DNC or Democrats more generally. That the Koch folks would attempt to block such policies and/or provoke dissention on the left is no surprise, it is 100% predictable.
Lash
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:25 am
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/10/06/struggle-for-soul-democratic-party-pits-wall-street-backed-think-tank-against-elizabeth-warren/pYk3SXRnZDmpi7C7N4ZpXN/story.html%3foutputType=amp

The Clinton creation Third Way has been controlling the DNC since Clinton left office.

___________________________

Third Way in struggle for the Democratic Party’s soul
By Noah Bierman Globe Staff,October 6, 2014, 1:14 a.m.

Protesters gathered outside Third Way’s offices in Washington, D.C., in December 2013, asking the group to reveal its funding sources. (YOUTUBE)
WASHINGTON — On a summer afternoon amid the frenzy of the Democratic National Convention in Boston 10 years ago, a group of Washington business lobbyists, political operatives, and a smattering of senators gathered at one of the city’s downtown law firms to hear a plan.

Members of the group worried that, with the end of the Bill Clinton era, the Democratic Party’s centrist wing had lost its way. Over sodas, they pitched a new think tank named for Clinton’s political philosophy, Third Way.

Fast forward a decade: The philosophy, sketched out privately at the Boston office of Brown Rudnick, is now at the center of an intense struggle for the soul of the Democratic Party.

Third Way, backed by Wall Street titans, corporate money, and congressional allies, is publicly warning against divisive “soak-the-rich” politics voiced by populist Democrats. Its target: Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts senator whose rise to power two years ago helped galvanize Democratic grass roots against Wall Street and pushed the issue of income inequality to the forefront.

This is more than a grudge match. At stake for the Democratic Party is the support of middle-class, swing voters who decide elections.

Third Way ignited a clash in December when its leaders essentially declared war on Warren in a guest column in the editorial pages of The Wall Street Journal, warning Democrats not to follow Warren and New York Mayor Bill de Blasio “over the populist cliff.”

Many on the left were shocked, and angered. Warren’s allies saw Third Way as a proxy — being used by her enemies on Wall Street to scare off the rest of the party.


Wall Street is extremely good at pushing anybody that is critical of them as being populist, or know-nothings,” said Ted Kaufman, who temporarily served as an appointed US senator to replace Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., then succeeded Warren in leading a special congressional panel that oversaw the bank bailout.


For their part, Third Way representatives bristle at the idea they are doing the bidding of Wall Street power brokers.

With the income gap growing between most of the nation’s taxpayers and the wealthiest 1 percent, the battle is over how aggressively the party’s candidates — including, potentially, Hillary Clinton — will contrast themselves with Republicans on tax and economic issues in 2016.

The philosophy set out by Third Way will be part of that conversation.

The organization publicly discloses little about its funding. But a Globe examination of public documents and the backgrounds of its leadership offers a window into how some wealthy Wall Street and business interests — who contribute generously to Democratic candidates — have sought to tip the Democratic Party’s intellectual debate against populism.

Third Way raises just over a third of its $9.3 million annual budget from undisclosed corporations. The remainder, the bulk of its funding, is donated by individuals, almost all of whom are members of Third Way’s board of trustees.

The group is dominated by executives from the financial industry, people who are typically the targets of the populist rhetoric of Warren, and sometimes even President Obama.

Two-thirds of its 31 trustees have held senior leadership positions in investment funds or big banks or served in some other capacity on Wall Street.

Board members include its chairman, John Vogelstein, who once led the private equity firm Warburg Pincus; vice chairman David Heller, the former global head of equity trading for Goldman Sachs; and Derek Kirkland, a managing director at Morgan Stanley.
Lash
 
  0  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:26 am
@blatham,
Pretending Russians or Kochs or anyone else is pulling so many strings makes YOU the nutty conspiracy theorist.

The DNC is utterly corrupt and you help them.
Sturgis
 
  3  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:29 am
@Lash,
...and the transformation back to far to the right has been completed.

Thanks Lash, I was beginning to wonder if you truly had become a genuine progressive.
Lash
 
  0  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:41 am
@Sturgis,
Do you dispute that Clinton created the Third Way?
Do you dispute that the Kochs funded the Third Way — in effect conservative Democrats?

What did I say that you dispute? Make it about policy rather than personality.

I don’t write these articles. I just know they’re true.
blatham
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:42 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Third Way in struggle for the Democratic Party’s soul
Again. No revelation.
Quote:
The Clinton creation Third Way has been controlling the DNC since Clinton left office.
Third Way was not a Clinton creation. Unless you want to argue that Clinton created Blair or Gerhard Schroder. It's reasonable to describe Bill Clinton's strategies and policies as Third Way but that is as far as you can take that claim. As to control of the DNC since then, that's just foolish (or propaganda). If it were the case, as noted earlier, they would have been full bore in support of a Bloomberg run. They weren't.

Lash
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:48 am
@blatham,
Bloomberg, shmoomberg. Your faulty assumption is meaningless.

Knowledge about David Brock’s role in the Third Way and Clinton’s 2016 campaign, however, is one of many smoking guns.

You can’t continue to deny what everyone knows.
Lash
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 10:49 am
@Lash,
You can thumb down, but you can’t hide. Face reality.
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georgeob1
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2019 11:08 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Side benefit from switch to renewables... detachment from the political/economic ties with places like Saudi Arabia.
This was already accomplished several years ago with the fracking revolution for both oil and gas. The United States has been a net exporter of high quality & relatively low emissions petroleum products for the past two years. We are now self-sufficient and compete with Saudi Arabia on petroleum exports.

Saudi Arabian & Iranian ambitions in the region are rather dramatically opposed, and that too factors into National policy. However the fact is that Europe China and Japan are heavily dependent on Persian Gulf Petroleum: The United States is not.

Meanwhile Canada is struggling to build a pipeline across BC to the Pacific to export more of its Tar Sands Petroleum, which from a carbon emissions perspective is about like coal.
blatham
 
  3  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 11:09 am
@Lash,
Quote:
You can’t continue to deny what everyone knows.
That's about as intellectually careless as anything I'll read today.
Lash
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2019 11:10 am
@blatham,
It’s open knowledge for anyone who wants to know.
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