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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:23 pm
@RABEL222,
I think it would be Dictator R Me
RABEL222
 
  3  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:33 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
Are the historians right when they suggest America was a failed experiment?


Not yet, but were getting closer every day the tRump dictatorship lasts.
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giujohn
 
  -2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:47 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

It started with many well meaning but politically naive people of Germany supporting what appeared to be reasonable orders .
its not apples and oranges. Its apples and Quinces

Hitler didnt become a ruthless dictator overnight. He first got a vocal support base
(CHECK)

He hired sycophants(CHECK) (maybe MAd Dog wont be around too long cause he doesnt appear to fit the Dumpster's mold completely)

Then, he developed a number of policies that were politically assertive qnd he identified a clear ENEMY (CHECK)

Then he consolidated his power and limited power of his detractors(STILL WORKING ON THAT ONE)

Then he BANNED certain activities by those NOT ARYAN (WORKING ON THAT ONE)

Then he went for Leebensraum and "Arbeit mach Frei"
(STILL IN THE PIPELINE)



Whew!!! Sounds like we got rid of Obama and Hillary just in time...I see what you mean...Thank goodness for TRUMP huh?
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RABEL222
 
  2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:48 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
German control were subject to very extreme vetting.


6 million Jews were vetted to death with an additional 14 million other nationalities who disagreed with Hitler. Bet tRump can beat this record without even trying.
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layman
 
  -1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:48 pm
Surely, somewhere out there is this country, there is a relatively youthful black lesbian muslim who is not butt-ugly and whose mission in life is to piss on and destroy all corporations, racist cops and all the other crackers who oppress the entire world by virtue of their white privilege.

When, I find her, I will send her straight to DNC headquarter. They will run her for President. It will be a stone-cold LANDSLIDE, I tellya!

By Trump.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
now the trump children crying foul!

No one is upset. The Republicans are going to abolish every single Senate rule that the Democrats use to block Mr. Trump's agenda.

Bye bye filibuster. Mr. Green
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:51 pm
@layman,
Quote:
An academic study from November comparing top court prospects to Scalia -- based on judicial philosophy and other factors -- put Gorsuch second among Trump's "List of 21" for his "Scalia-ness."

I was curious about that study and did a search. Got this article:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/donald-trump-picks-for-supreme-court-rated-on-scal/
Quote:
By Alex Swoyer - The Washington Times - Thursday, January 26, 2017

If President Trump and conservative activists want to make good on their goal of replacing the late Justice Antonin Scalia with a jurist of the same bent and caliber, a group of lawyers and academics have crunched the numbers and have come up with the answer: Judge William Pryor.

Of the three names reported to be at the top of Mr. Trump's list, Judge Pryor scored the highest on a test of likely "Scalia-ness," followed closely by Judge Neil Gorsuch, with Judge Thomas Hardiman trailing behind.

Jeremy Kidd, a law professor at Mercer University who led the study, said they looked at the judges' fealty to the Constitution's original meaning, their devotion to Justice Scalia's writings and their willingness to strike out in writing their own opinions rather than sign on to colleagues' rulings -- a hallmark of Scalia's tenure on the high court.

Mr. Kidd's analysis found that Judge Pryor was the most devoted to Justice Scalia's writings, while Judge Gorsuch scored higher on fealty to originalism and on willingness to break from colleagues in cases and write his own opinion.

"We hope that the study helps people realize that there actually are ways to measure the qualities they say they want in a jurist," Mr. Kidd said.



While I was there I saw a couple other interesting articles:

Clinton could have received 800,000 votes from noncitizens:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/

Pentagon plans A-10 vs. F-35 showdown for close-air-support supremacy:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/pentagon-plans-a-10-versus-f-35-showdown-for-close/
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:53 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
At least an attempt at humor, for once, eh, Blathy? Not that bad. Not great, either, but, still....

Actually Blatham is very good at cracking jokes. If he stopped wasting his time pretending to be a political intellectual, he could make an outstanding stand up comic.
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RABEL222
 
  5  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Its a republican government. They wanted a republican president so he could give them a republican supreme court. They have it and no chance to get rid of any of it till 2018. The US voters screwed themselves like no other time in its history.
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layman
 
  -1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 11:05 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:


I haven't read this closely, but a few years ago several political scientists from Universities did a similar study, using the same (then-current) government-funded research data.

As I recall, in confidential polling surveys, about 15% of those who identified themselves as non-citizens ALSO claimed to have voted in the last election.

Extrapolating at that rate, about 3 million non-citizens would have voted. That's where Trump got his "3 million" figure from to start with.

Apparently the people getting polled have wised up a bit since then. It is a felony for a non-citizen to vote. Best not to never tell nobody, eh? For that same reason the original 15% figure was probably largely understated too, eh?
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Blickers
 
  5  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 11:15 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:

The study in question never said that. In fact, the study, done by Marc Richman, PhD of Old Dominion University in Virginia, was done in 2014, so how can it find that Hillary got 800,000 votes in the 2016 election?

‘Stop citing our work’: Virginia professor says Trump’s twisting his research on non-citizen voting
Travis Gettys
27 Jan 2017 at 07:40 ET


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Jesse-Richman-WAVY.png
Jesse Richman (WAVY)


A study published more than two years ago on voting activity by non-citizens has thrust a Virginia professor into the national spotlight, but he’s not happy about it.

“We wish Donald Trump would stop citing our work,” said Jesse Richman, an associated professor of political science at Old Dominion University.

The president and his administration have cited Richman’s 2014 study to claim as many as 3 million votes were illegally cast in favor of Hillary Clinton, which would tip the popular vote total in favor of Trump, who of course won the electoral vote.

Trump has said he’ll order a “major investigation” into voter fraud, which he’s been complaining about since before the Nov. 8 election, based on the study and the observations of a friend.

There’s one major problem, though — Richman said Trump, and nearly everyone else, have twisted his conclusions into fantasy.

“First of all, he’s confusing our study with another study, and then he’s flipping ours around and exaggerating the most extreme estimates from it,” Richman told The Virginian-Pilot.

A 2012 study by the Pew Charitable Trusts found that 1.8 million dead voters remained on the rolls and that millions of other voter records were out of date, but that research did not address whether that resulted in fraudulent ballots being cast.

Source

RABEL222
 
  3  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 11:16 pm
@blatham,
I stand corrected.
roger
 
  4  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 11:23 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Quote:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.



I seriously considered tracking that down, maybe with some paraphrasing.

First they came for the Syrians, and I did not speak out --
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 11:25 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
The study in question never said that. In fact, the study, done by Marc Richman, PhD of Old Dominion University in Virginia, was done in 2014, so how can it find that Hillary got 800,000 votes in the 2016 election?

Were the other articles wrong too? I was really hoping for that A-10 vs F-35 competition to take place.
layman
 
  -1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 11:33 pm
@Blickers,
Quote:
The study in question never said that. In fact, the study, done by Marc Richman, PhD of Old Dominion University in Virginia, was done in 2014, so how can it find that Hillary got 800,000 votes in the 2016 election?


Yeah! The 2010 census said they were 280 million people in the U.S. at that time, so how could there possibly be 280 million in 2016, I ask ya?

Does anyone remember the Podesta email where he was explaining how easy it was for illegals to vote?

I do.
layman
 
  -1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 11:42 pm
@layman,
Quote:
WIKILEAKS: Podesta Says It’s OK for Illegals to Vote With Driver’s License….

John Podesta: I think Teddy’s idea scratches the itch, is pretty safe and uncomplicated. On the picture ID, the one thing I have thought of in that space is that if you show up on Election Day with a drivers license with a picture, attest that you are a citizen, you have a right to vote in Federal elections.


It just so happens that California issues driver's licenses to known illegal aliens with the assurance that the information will never be used to deport them. Last I heard, LA was about 50% hispanic.

Trump was winning the popular vote, all over the U.S. until the California returns starting coming in, eh?

Of course it's not just California. Many states do not require proof of citizenship to get drivers license and automatically register anyone with a DL to vote, if they're old enough.
Blickers
 
  3  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 11:49 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
Were the other articles wrong too? I was really hoping for that A-10 vs F-35 competition to take place.

Didn't check the aircraft article, no reason to think it's not accurate. I'm a little surprised the A10 is being considered as competition for the F35. I know the F35 has its opponents, but I didn't think some people think a plane frm 1976 is better.
Blickers
 
  4  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 12:02 am
@layman,
Quote layman:
Quote:
It just so happens that California issues driver's licenses to known illegal aliens with the assurance that the information will never be used to deport them.

Let me get this straight-are you taking an anti-states right stance here?


Quote layman:
Quote:
Trump was winning the popular vote, all over the U.S. until the California returns starting coming in, eh?

So? California is 12% of the country and it's a strong Democratic state. How would Bush have done with the popular vote in 2004 if you take Texas' votes away from him?

You'd have made a great sportswriter. "The two teams played even except for the third quarter, when the Aardvarks scored five straight touchdowns".
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layman
 
  -2  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 12:05 am
From the NY Times:

Quote:
California Gives Expanded Rights to Noncitizens

California is challenging the historic status of American citizenship with measures to permit noncitizens to sit on juries and monitor polls for elections in which they cannot vote and to open the practice of law even to those here illegally. It is the leading edge of a national trend that includes granting drivers’ licenses and in-state tuition to illegal immigrants in some states and that suggests legal residency could evolve into an appealing option should immigration legislation fail to produce a path to citizenship.

With 3.5 million noncitizens who are legal permanent residents in California, some view the changes as an acknowledgment of who is living here and the need to require some public service of them. But the new laws raise profound questions about which rights and responsibilities rightly belong to citizens over residents.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/21/us/california-leads-in-expanding-noncitizens-rights.html

That's 3.5 million LPR's alone (who can't legally vote) in California alone. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. Probably millions more are there, either with some legal status like a work visa, or just plain illegally.

I think Clinton got over 90% of the vote in California--100% of the non-citizen vote, no doubt.
layman
 
  -3  
Wed 1 Feb, 2017 12:27 am
Quote:
Non-Citizens Will Now Vote In At Least One State
By S. Noble - October 12, 2015

Governor Jerry Brown just sold out the American vote in California. He signed a new version of the Motor Voter Act that will register every eligible California citizen who acquires a driver’s license or renews a license at the Department of Motor Vehicles to vote.

This is after he made all illegal aliens eligible for diver’s licenses. Eleven states allow illegal aliens to get driver’s licenses.

The measure, Assembly Bill 1461, “will effectively change the form of governance in California from a Republic whose elected officials are determined by United States citizens and will guarantee that noncitizens will participate in all California elections going forward,” Election Integrity Project of California President Linda Paine said in a statement.

In many of the larger states, California being one, there is no distinction between the databases of citizens and non-citizens. There is nothing to prevent the illegal aliens from voting. There is no way to tell a citizen from a non-citizen. “In other words, the flood gates are open,” Engelbrecht says.


http://www.independentsentinel.com/non-citizens-will-now-vote-in-at-least-one-state/
 

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