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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  8  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 07:28 pm
Awkward
Quote:
Official FBI guidelines acknowledge that white supremacists and right-wing extremists have infiltrated U.S. law enforcement agencies, according to a classified 2015 counterterrorism policy guide obtained by The Intercept.

“Domestic terrorism investigations focused on militia extremists, white supremacist extremists, and sovereign citizen extremists often have identified active links to law enforcement officers,” the guide, which explains how individuals qualify for inclusion on a terrorism watchlist, reads, according to The Intercept.
TPM (with internal link to Intercept
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layman
 
  -1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 07:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

"Some sincerely held beliefs" also applies to Hitler, Stalin, Putin and Mao.


Other than your determination to be as dour, sullen, negative and unattractive as possible, Al, do you have a point?

It also applies to Jesus, Ghandi, and MLK.
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blatham
 
  7  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 07:52 pm
I don't write a whole lot about what Dems ought to do going forward (not really my area of interest) but Josh says some things here I think are quite bright.
Quote:
By every standard, Trump is courting even greater unpopularity and sowing the seeds of an electoral backlash in two years. And yet, history shouldn't have allowed us to get here in the first place. By most conventional wisdom it should have been extremely difficult for Donald Trump to be elected President. And yet he was. So today people on both sides of the ideological divide - half emboldened, the other half demoralized - think that political gravity simply doesn't apply anymore.

Is this right?

My own read is that we've gone from a relatively small but still critical misread of the electorate that allowed Trump to win to many people thinking that no rules or guideposts apply at all. This is not right. Trump won as a minority president who was disliked even by many of his own voters, proceeded to make himself less popular and yet somehow none of this matters and he's unstoppable. I don't believe this is so, even as I recognize that all of us need to apply more scrutiny to what we think we know, to changes in how political gravity works.

But as we look at Trump's chaotic first week in office, rumblings at least of Republican discomfort if not discontent and a wave of protests around the country, we should remember some critical things. Resistance to Trump and anti-Trump activism is a critical precondition of turning back to Trumpite tide. But it is not a sufficient one. I appear to be considerably more confident than a lot of other people I know that Republicans may face a big electoral backlash in 2018. But if it happens it will happen because of grassroots organizing in red states and the red parts of blue states. The cities are already overwhelmingly Democratic. The fight is really outside the major cities. Nor is it just geographical. Trump's power will be broken most on issues like health care - some mix of Medicare, Obamacare repeal, etc. These are issues that cut across the urban/rural divide.
TPM
A couple of things here: first, organization/hard work absolutely necessary and always have been. And the right has been for a long while far better organized than the left (I'm just about to read a piece by Theda Skocpol on this and will bring it up at some point later).

The the other point I want to make relates to the Josh's first graph - the notion that normal political gravity has somehow magically been cancelled with Trump. As Josh says, it's not bloody likely but we can't assume it isn't true to some measure. But we really ought to recognize that this notion or narrative that everything is different now is one being pushed pretty much daily (and loudly) by Trump himself - that's what the "we are the greatest movement the world has ever seen" is all about. It's what his crowd size obsession (and lies) are all about. It's what his "landslide" rhetoric is all about.

The goal of all this is to foster very particular notions about his power and invincibility. It is another and rather obvious manifestation of his strategy/technique of asserting his over-arching power and dominance over everyone else. "I am/we are so powerful that we'll crush you if you stand against us".
layman
 
  -1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 07:59 pm
@blatham,
Heh, the Dems actually think they're gunna get the middle working class back. What delusions. They were abandoned by them for years and years. After 4 years of seeing jobs created by Trump, what fool would think they would want Bernie Sanders, Ralph Ellison (or whatever his non-muslim name is) or Nancy Pelosi?

They're stuck with their pathetic, cheese-eating rainbow coalition, consisting of radical homosexual activists, bulldyke 'feminists, black BLM supporters, illegal mexican aliens, islamic terrorists, and snowflake college kids.

That aint gunna take them far.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 08:03 pm
@layman,
I think this article is pretty accurate.
http://www.inc.com/jeremy-quittner/dnc-job-creation-elections.html
McGentrix
 
  1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 08:07 pm
@blatham,
I can almost guarantee you she had made many phone calls and had a job already lined up before she ever decided to pull her little stunt for attention.
blatham
 
  5  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 08:09 pm
ps on supreme court...

Let's recall that Ted Cruz admitted to reporter Dave Weigel that if Hillary were to win the election, the Republicans were prepared to leave Scalia's seat vacant indefinitely.
blatham
 
  5  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 08:17 pm
@McGentrix,
At that level, jobs never a problem (and well paid, of course, which in cases like this I don't begrudge at all). So I don't see how your statement has any real relevance. It's possible that the Trump people would have kept her somewhere in Justice (if unlikely) but that's really the point here - she closed off, and surely knew she was, any prospect of a career in government (with whatever perks and goals to shape the JD might attend that) for four years.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 08:23 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
ps on supreme court...
Let's recall that Ted Cruz admitted to reporter Dave Weigel that if Hillary were to win the election, the Republicans were prepared to leave Scalia's seat vacant indefinitely.

I would hope that the Republicans are all out of patience with the Democrats and their obstruction of Mr. Trump's agenda, and will simply abolish any Senate rule that the Democrats use to interfere with things.
layman
 
  0  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 08:41 pm
Neil Gorsuch is DA MAN!

Quote:
President Trump announced Tuesday that he has tapped Judge Neil Gorsuch to fill the Supreme Court seat left vacant by Justice Antonin Scalia – a nominee who is in many ways similar to the man whose seat he hopes to fill.

Gorsuch, like Scalia, is a textualist and an originalist who believes judges should follow the text and original meaning of the Constitution. He has a record of standing up for religious liberty and swiftly met with approval Tuesday night from conservatives hoping for a Scalia-like pick.

An academic study from November comparing top court prospects to Scalia -- based on judicial philosophy and other factors -- put Gorsuch second among Trump's "List of 21" for his "Scalia-ness." His views on criminal law (including the death penalty), interstate commerce, and religious liberty match much of Scalia's jurisprudence.

Gorsuch, 49, is a strict opponent of judicial activism, writing in a 2016 law review article that “judges should be in the business of declaring what the law is using the traditional tools of interpretation, rather than pronouncing the law as they might wish it to be in light of their own political views.
layman
 
  0  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 08:51 pm
@layman,
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 09:08 pm
@oralloy,
tit for tat
now the trump children crying foul!

besides all that, trump's approval rating during his first week in office is one of the lowest in history.

btw, did you know that trump is a bigot?
glitterbag
 
  4  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 09:13 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

No, my point is that if you or any other rabid critic chooses to make a lot more the Yates affair, than is clearly warranted, you will be demonstrating that the facts of any given situation are entirely immaterial to your purpose which is to keep up a constant deluge of propaganda.

I confess I don't understand why you bother or what you hope to accomplish, but suspect it has something to do with your desire to be seen as some sort of leader of the A2K Trump Resistance.

Quote:
I'll take up the remainder of your argument.


How generous.

It won't be necessary because I've no interest in engaging with a minor
propagandist who fancies himself important.




I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure Blathem just got a harrumpf.
blatham
 
  4  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 09:37 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure Blathem just got a harrumpf.

My dad was an Englishman and I adore a good harrumpf. It's very homey.
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layman
 
  1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 09:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:


Well, let's assume it is. It describes some relevant variables which are very difficult to measure. I read it once, but can't quote from it now because I can't log in. But the upshot seems to be that, over the last 50 years or so, it's hard to say which party created more jobs.

OK. So what?

We aint talkin about the last 50, we're talkin about what Trump will do in the next 4.
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blatham
 
  3  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:01 pm
Boy, they are getting really good at this targetted-marketing thing.

"Gorgeous Russian Women Are Looking For An Older Man In Campbell River Who Is Fond Of Cheetos And Who Wants Donald Trump To Drown In A Gold-Plated Bidet"
layman
 
  0  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:04 pm
@blatham,
At least an attempt at humor, for once, eh, Blathy? Not that bad. Not great, either, but, still....
layman
 
  1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:10 pm
@layman,
Quote:
One of the many problems with the American left, and indeed of the American left, has been its image and self-image as something rather too solemn, mirthless, herbivorous, dull, monochrome, righteous, and boring.

How many times, in my old days at The Nation magazine, did I hear wistful and semienvious ruminations? Where was the radical Firing Line show? Who will be our Rush Limbaugh? I used privately to hope that the emphasis, if the comrades ever got around to it, would be on the first of those and not the second.

But the meetings themselves were so mind-numbing and lugubrious that I thought the danger of success on either front was infinitely slight.(C. Hitchens)


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RABEL222
 
  2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:18 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
You can't very well turn around and use them to illustrate the public support for Mr. Trump.


You can if your a hypocrite.
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RABEL222
 
  3  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 10:22 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Yes. Bigots R Us is a successful business model presently. Expanding franchise.


Next comes dictator or Us.
 

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