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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Region Philbis
 
  1  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 08:14 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

snood wrote:

There are a half dozen other instances of him “hereby” ordering something. All equally specious and batty.

Even the McDonalds.
cold hamberders... not good eats...
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snood
 
  3  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 08:14 am
@izzythepush,
I hereby proclaim and attest that I should have three Big Macs, two large fries, a milkshake, an apple pie and [buuurp].

Thus let it be written.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 08:18 am
@snood,
If only he limited himself to that, and let everyone else do the talking.
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revelette1
 
  2  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 11:42 am
I remember some folks saying back after the democrat primary and there was so much hard feeling with Bernie supporters, "what can one President do?" (something like that) Well, we have since seen what one man can do and we keep seeing it. No telling how it will end. If he gets re-elected, maybe world powers will decide to do a regime change war against us for the good of the global economy and health. (hopefully won't come to pass! hyperbole I hope. )



(The UPShot)
Quote:
The series of economic and financial developments on Friday was a strange, bewildering, exhausting microcosm of why the global economy is at risk of a meltdown.

It showed the odd interplay at work between the Chinese government’s actions in the escalating trade war with the United States, the sober-minded global central bankers who have limited power to deploy and an American president whose public pronouncements often appear driven by grievance more than strategy.

President Trump arrived in France on Saturday for a meeting of the Group of 7 industrialized nations, having set the stage for fireworks and confusion. In one dizzying day, he had seemed to be searching for whom or what to blame for economic troubles, first using Twitter to call his own Federal Reserve chief an enemy of the United States and then to urge American companies to stop doing business with China.

And that was just while the markets were open. Later Friday, he said he would apply tariffs to all Chinese imports and increase those already in place.

The global economy may yet turn out fine; most economic data in the United States has been solid. But if a recession and breakdown in international commerce happens in the coming year, histories of the episode may well spend a chapter on the Friday collision of official actions in the government offices of Beijing, in the Grand Tetons in Wyoming and in the Oval Office.

It became clear in real time how the risks of an escalating trade war and the fraying of longstanding financial and political ties could quickly outpace the ability of central banks — the normal first responders to economic distress — to do anything about it.

President Trump’s shoot-first approach adds to the risks at a delicate moment, with major economies in Asia and Europe already teetering and policymakers’ capacity to contain the damage in question.

“The escalation, the unpredictability, the erratic nature of policy developments is central to what is going on, and these aren’t things you can plug into an economic model,” said Julia Coronado, president of MacroPolicy Perspectives, an economic consultancy. “Something is breaking. It’s very dangerous.”

As Friday dawned in the United States, China announced it would impose tariffs on $75 billion in American goods, going into effect starting Sept. 1. New American tariffs on Chinese goods go into effect the same day.
While not great news for those who hope that a trade peace can be found between the world’s two largest economies, it was proportional — more tit-for-tat response than escalation. Financial markets shrugged.

At 10 a.m. Eastern, the Federal Reserve chair, Jerome Powell, delivered a speech in Jackson, Wyo., where the world’s leading central bankers gather every August for an economic symposium. The financial world had been on edge — eager for any sign of what the Fed would do next.

Financial markets are increasingly pointing to a slumping United States economy. But by most measures, growth continues, and the job market is quite healthy. Will the Fed act pre-emptively in response to those market swings and some evidence that business confidence is slipping?

Mr. Powell delivered a nuanced speech signaling the Fed was committed to a “risk management” approach, of adjusting policy to try to prevent bad things from happening. His words kept the Fed’s options open.

But he made clear that a breakdown of global trade relations was not the kind of thing that the Fed’s interest rate policies were well suited to addressing.

“While monetary policy is a powerful tool,” Mr. Powell said, “it cannot provide a settled rule book for international trade.” The central bank can only adjust policy to try to respond to the ways trade policy changes affect the overall outlook.

The implicit message: If erratic trade policy undermines the economy, the Fed’s tools are likely to have only limited ability to overcome the damage. Interest rate cuts in that situation would be like giving pain relievers to someone with a broken bone — better to have than not, but unable to solve the underlying problem.

The speech evidently did not sit well with the White House.

President Trump, who has called on the Fed to cut interest rates by a full percentage point, issued a series of tweets at 10:57 a.m. that excoriated the “weak Fed” and asked: “My only question is, who is our bigger enemy, Jay Powell or Chairman Xi?”

He followed that with the ones urging American companies to disinvest from China. The stock market, which had been stable after the Powell speech, plunged.

At 5 p.m., after financial markets closed, the president tweeted that he was escalating the trade war further, applying a 15 percent tariff to $300 billion worth of Chinese imports starting Oct. 1 and raising the rate on $250 billion of imports to 30 percent from 25 percent.

The disconnect between sober, cautious central bankers and erratic policy that puts the economy at risk isn’t unique to the United States. Also speaking at the Jackson Hole symposium was the Bank of England governor, Mark Carney, who described a limited ability to use monetary policy to offset the damage from Britain’s potentially messy exit from the European Union this fall.

“In the end, monetary policy can only help smooth the adjustment to the major real shock that an abrupt no-deal Brexit would entail,” Mr. Carney said, and that ability would be constrained by the need to keep inflation under control.

Beyond the trade wars and Brexit, Mr. Powell’s speech cited a potential Chinese crackdown on Hong Kong protesters and government instability in Italy as factors in a turbulent summer for financial markets.

This is the global economy in 2019. A volatile political environment in many of the world’s major economies keeps layering new risks, both for financial markets and for the businesses and consumers who are making economic decisions every day.

But this isn’t like the 2007 and 2008 crisis, when central banks came together to address a potential collapse of the global financial system. That episode, scary and catastrophic as it was, was well suited to the tools that central banks have.

This situation is not. It can be comforting to think that there are a bunch of wise men and women operating behind the scenes keeping the world economy from going into a ditch.

The lesson of the last several months is that forces are unfolding that they can’t do much to contain. And if Friday is a guide, their caution and sobriety may even make things worse.


NYT
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Olivier5
 
  2  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 02:05 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Petition to rename Fifth Avenue in front of Trump Tower: "President Barack H. Obama Avenue"

Edit [Moderator]: Link removed

Now that's interesting... There's a rule saying you can't share public petitions here, huh?
Sturgis
 
  1  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 02:09 pm
@Olivier5,
It may be viewed as a form of SPAM, I figure.
snood
 
  2  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 02:12 pm
@Olivier5,
In any case, last I heard the petition was close to a quarter million signatures.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 02:20 pm
@Sturgis,
Quote:
spam 
noun
\ ˈspam  \

Unsolicited usually commercial messages (such as e-mails, text messages, or Internet postings) sent to a large number of recipients or posted in a large number of places

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spam
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InfraBlue
 
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Sat 24 Aug, 2019 02:41 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Olivier5 wrote:

Petition to rename Fifth Avenue in front of Trump Tower: "President Barack H. Obama Avenue"

Edit [Moderator]: Link removed

Now that's interesting... There's a rule saying you can't share public petitions here, huh?


I think it falls under Section 3 of the Rules page
Quote:
3) Self Promotion

Sharing links to content you’ve made or are connected to somehow (because you’re proud of it, or think that it’s useful to the community) is okay when done in moderation. Signing up just to post such links is not. This rule includes links to your website, blog, art work, photo feed, social media account, video, etc. You can share any such links on your profile though.

We won’t define a specific number or percentage of comments that describe or link to personal content that is still OK, because that would just invite self-promoters to stick right below it. But if most of your posts are like that, you’re definitely over the line.
snood
 
  3  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 04:59 pm
Merkel: "Er ist ein idiot"

Macron: "il est un idiot"

Trudeau: "je suis d'accord emmanuel, il est un idiot"

Conte: "E' un idiota"

Abe: "Kare wa bakadesu"

Johnson: "They talking about you Donald"

Donald: "Yes they are right I am the chosen one. They love me."

@roper_93
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 07:14 pm
Politico headline
Quote:
Trump offers Brazil help with Amazon fires

He's going to send brooms and vacuum cleaners.
Setanta
 
  3  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 08:39 pm
@blatham,
Also soft, soft paper towels--just like the ones he threw at people in Puerto Rico after the hurricane. Plump is all heart.
glitterbag
 
  3  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 09:17 pm
@Setanta,
He was just trying to lighten the mood, people get cheered up when they see the best president the world has ever seen.
Olivier5
 
  -1  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 10:18 pm
@InfraBlue,
Since I'm not Barak H. Obama, it has nothing to do with self promotion.

Me think someone in the moderation team lacks a sense of humor. :-)
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Sturgis
 
  1  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 10:23 pm
@glitterbag,
World? Don't you mean Universe?
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Sat 24 Aug, 2019 11:53 pm
Quote:
Trump Raves Over Macron at G7, While Aides Slam France
By Michael D. Shear, Aug. 24, 2019

BIARRITZ, France — Lunching on a patio overlooking the Bay of Biscay at the Hôtel du Palais on Saturday, President Trump gushed over Emmanuel Macron, the French president and the host of the weekend’s annual Group of 7 meeting, held this year in the quaint beach town of Biarritz in the south of France.

But even as Mr. Trump bragged about what he called “a special relationship” with Mr. Macron, saying they have “been friends for a long time,” members of Mr. Trump’s administration were publicly and privately dumping on the French president and his team. They complained that the focus of the summit was more on “niche issues” than the global economic challenges facing their nations.

Senior administration officials said that the agenda would center too much on issues designed to play well with Mr. Macron’s domestic audience — like climate change, income and gender equality, and African development — and was engineered to highlight disagreements with Mr. Trump’s administration.

They accused Mr. Macron’s aides of ignoring pleas by Trump administration officials to focus the summit, which runs through Monday, on national security and a looming economic slowdown. And they said Mr. Macron was purposely trying to fracture the Group of 7 by veering away from its longstanding mission of ensuring that the strains on other economies do not spread globally.

“France, this year’s host, wants the Group of 7 to stay silent on these core economic issues,” Larry Kudlow, the director of Mr. Trump’s National Economic Council, wrote in an opinion piece in The Wall Street Journal as Mr. Trump arrived in Biarritz. Mr. Kudlow accused the French of focusing on “politically correct bromides” and said the Group of 7 was in danger of losing its way. “Trade and the global economy have gotten short shrift.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/24/us/politics/trump-g7-economy.html

That's kinda rich, from an administration waging trade wars left, right and center...
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Builder
 
  -1  
Sun 25 Aug, 2019 02:22 am
Interesting scenario....

Quote:
Trump’s first meeting on Saturday was a private lunch with French President Emmanuel Macron.

Macron, who will host the summit, said they were discussing world crises, including Libya, Iran and Russia, as well as trade policy and climate change.

Trump said he anticipated the lunch with Macron would go well.

“We actually have a lot in common, Emmanuel and I. We’ve been friends for a long time. And every once in a while, we go at it just a little bit — not very much. But we get along very well,” he said.

When asked if he would place tariffs on French wines in retaliation for France’s digital services tax, which he previously threatened to do, Trump was noncommittal, but responded that he loves French wine.


Interesting that Russia is considered to be in "crisis". I can understand the concern with the fall of Libya, but Iran is still in fine form, apparently.
hightor
 
  2  
Sun 25 Aug, 2019 03:07 am
@Builder,
Quote:
When asked if he would place tariffs on French wines in retaliation for France’s digital services tax, which he previously threatened to do, Trump was noncommittal, but responded that he loves French wine.

I wonder how well-developed his palette is? He only drinks communion wine although he's been known to have a sip when participating in toasts with world leaders.

"When we go in church and I drink the little wine, which is about the only wine I drink, and I eat the little cracker."
source
Builder
 
  0  
Sun 25 Aug, 2019 03:43 am
@hightor,
Quote:
I wonder how well-developed his palette is?


Looks like a piss-take to me. His palate is well known.
snood
 
  2  
Sun 25 Aug, 2019 03:55 am
@Builder,
To who?
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