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revelette1
 
  3  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 08:15 am
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_23/2882756/190604-trump-london-mn-0840_25678fac157f2a8d6664adb80bb47fd6.fit-560w.jpg

Quote:
And even if the president doesn't meet any angry protesters, he will almost certainly hear them.

"Let's show him what we think of his divisive, hateful policies," said the Stop Trump Coalition, which is organizing Tuesday's protest. "Trump and his politics aren't welcome in the U.K."

Douglas Gray, 71, from Brentford, a suburb of west London, was holding a sign saying: “Is Trump fit to save brave yanks who died saving our arse?”

“The fact that Trump is over here commemorating D-Day is just so wrong,” the retired electrician said.

“He’s a poor representative for America. I’m not very political but the man just comes across as a fool. I’m sorry for the poor souls who died over here.”

“I think he’s the worst American president at least since Richard Nixon,” said Tom Rivers, 78, a retiree from north London. “There’s a long list of things that I think any rational European is entitled to be dismayed about.”

He and his wife Isabel Rivers, 75, lived in the U.S. for four years. “We are absolutely not anti-American at all,” she said.

Keith Martin, 55, was carrying a sign reading: “Trump is worse than my cancer.” He made the sign after receiving a terminal diagnosis for bladder cancer last year. “Worst case scenario, this will kill me, but Trump’s policies will kill lots of people,” said Martin who lives in London. He has reacted well to treatment and although his diagnosis was terminal, scans show he appears to be cancer free.

As grey skies gave way to spits of rain, the protesters were undimmed, chanting "say it loud, say it clear, Donald trump’s not welcome here." A diverse crowded included many colorful anti-Trump banners and flags, many simply urging the U.S. public to "dump Trump."


More of the same @ NBCNEWS

Here's me holding out hope more of us Americans show the same sense by voting Trump out of office in 2020. Man, I hope so!
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 08:49 am
@Walter Hinteler,
This just shows Brexit for what it really is, far from giving the NHS an extra £350million a week, it's going to be broken up and sold to American big pharma.

We need a prime minister who isn't in Trump's pocket.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 08:55 am
@izzythepush,
https://i.imgur.com/aPpoB0q.jpg
izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 08:58 am
Quote:
Anti-Trump protests 'not fake news'

BBC chief news correspondent for The Nine in Scotland tweets...

I have spent all day on the streets of London. We struggled through throngs of anti-Trump protestors, many tens of thousands of them. I also saw tiny handfuls of Trump fans. This is not fake news. We have the pictures.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-48462241
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 09:42 am
@izzythepush,
‘I don’t like critics’: Critic-in-chief Trump asks U.S. allies to abide by his double standard
Quote:
President Trump has called London Mayor Sadiq Khan a “stone cold loser” who is “soft on terrorism.”

He has criticized U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May for not heeding his advice on Brexit.

He repeatedly attacked former U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron for “subsidizing” Scotland and said Cameron should be “run out of office.”

He also criticized the U.K. government, accusing it of trying to “disguise their massive Muslim problem” and for its national health care system.

On Tuesday, the very same Trump said it was unproductive for British politicians to criticize him. “I don’t like critics as much as I like and respect people who like to get things done,” Trump declared. Referring specifically to Khan, Trump said, “I don’t think he should be criticizing a leader of the United States that could be doing so much good for the United Kingdom.”

Apparently, when it comes to U.S.-U.K. relations, criticism should only flow in one direction across the Atlantic.
georgeob1
 
  0  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,
In the cases cited (i.e. Mayor Kahn and Labor Party Leader Corbyn) I believe Trump's criticisms were entirely valid. This, of course won't please either the supporters of these individuals or those, like the Washington Post, who criticize Trump as a matter of constant practice and policy.
revelette1
 
  2  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:12 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
In the cases cited (i.e. Mayor Kahn and Labor Party Leader Corbyn) I believe Trump's criticisms were entirely valid.


Oh, well, color me surprised cause I never saw that one coming. Smile
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:21 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
In the cases cited (i.e. Mayor Kahn and Labor Party Leader Corbyn) I believe Trump's criticisms were entirely valid.
I think, misspelling Khan is a critic, too (he isn't German).

Funny, though, that the president seems to like it in Khan's London Wink

I just mean, if you criticise someone, why isn't it fair that you get criticised as well?
izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:26 am
@revelette1,
Boris Johnson, Sadiq Khan's predecessor, spent a fortune on water cannons that were never used, and sent back at a huge loss.

Khan is doing a damn good job which is why fascists and war criminals hate him.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:31 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
We need a prime minister who isn't in Trump's pocket.

Then he, the PM, would be in a pocket inside Putin's pocket. He or she might suffocate. Brexit shows me what it is just by the fact you oppose it.

If you do not like it it must be good for the UK, because you have shown you hate your culture, its subjects, and the UK's sovereignty.

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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:36 am
What makes me wonder: has the USA ever before made a trade deal that obliged governments to privatise public services like the NHS?
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:37 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Oh my, are those protestors making fun of homosexuals? We can't have that! Shocked
georgeob1
 
  -1  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:43 am
@Walter Hinteler,
My fault for misspelling Khan's name.

I didn't criticize anyone: I merely indicated the validity of Trump's criticisms. Trump rather consistently strikes back at nearly all of his critics, a tactic that is often perceived by others as crude and belligerent. It indeed is a fault, but there are other far worse (but more politely acceptable) faults among political leaders.

It would be very difficult in this matter to assert that either Kahn and Corbyn were particularly polite either.
RABEL222
 
  3  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:44 am
@coldjoint,
The u s is consistent. We have sent our ugliest American to England and compounded the insult by sending all his crooked kids with him.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:47 am
@RABEL222,
Quote:
all his crooked kids with him.

Really? What have they been convicted of?
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georgeob1
 
  -1  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:49 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

What makes me wonder: has the USA ever before made a trade deal that obliged governments to privatise public services like the NHS?


Calm down Walter. You are badly misstating the facts here. The comments addressed only the ability of U.S. firms to compete, along with local ones, for those services which the NHS routinely contracts with others. Numerous British (and German) firms have long contracted with various U.S. government agencies for various services and this would be no different.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 10:51 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
It would be very difficult in this matter to assert that either Kahn and Corbyn were particularly polite either.

Two anti-Semites. Spreading their hate for Jews, liberty and equality. No big deal, when you consider the source, which Trump has already done.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 11:00 am
Quote:
Britain Has Grown Trumpier, State Visit Shows

Quote:
Mr. Khan, in short, is a British never-Trumper. And no one launched these kinds of protests and insults when, say, the Communist Chinese party boss, Xi Jinping, paid his state visit.

Funny that, because China has over a million Muslims in re-education camps. I guess Communism does not bother Kahn.

Quote:
What a far cry all this is from three years ago, when, on the eve of Mr. Trump’s inauguration as President, there was an effort to ban him from Britain altogether. Enough signatures were rounded up — something like 580.000 — to force the the House of Commons to address the question .

https://www.nysun.com/foreign/britain-has-grown-trumpier-state-visit-shows/90716/#.XPaR1hhD4-8.twitter
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 11:07 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
You are badly misstating the facts here. The comments addressed only the ability of U.S. firms to compete, along with local ones, for those services which the NHS routinely contracts with others.
That might be so.
I could only rely on what the ambassador said and I'v heard a short time ago in the press conference by Trump.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 4 Jun, 2019 11:12 am
@Walter Hinteler,
You've seen what free health care is like in America. We don't want that for the NHS.

Boris Johnson is embarking on a huge act of betrayal.

There should be a general election.
 

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