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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

You're inventing facts you wish were true.

You cannot point out a single thing that is untrue in any of my posts.

@Builder,

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Confirmed by Zbigniew Brzezinski, Soviet forces were fighting the Al Qaeda mercenaries who had been recruited by the CIA.

The CIA had nothing to do with recruitment of mercenaries in Afghanistan.

The CIA has never had anything to do with al-Qa'ida anywhere ever.

al-Qa'ida was recruited and backed by the Saudis.

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Amply documented, the recruitment, training and indoctrination of the Mujahideen was financed by the drug trade which was supported covertly by the CIA.

The CIA has also never had anything to do with any drug trade.

US taxpayer money was however given to Pakistan to fund a resistance to the Soviets. Pakistan chose to use this money to create the Taliban.

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Since the so-called “Soviet-Afghan War”, the US has promoted the influx of Al Qaeda mercenaries as a means to destabilize several countries, including Syria and Libya.

The US did not promote the influx of al-Qa'ida into Syria, Libya, or anywhere else.

Bashar al-Assad is the person who promoted the influx of al-Qa'ida into Syria.

Builder wrote:

Michel Chossudovsky, Global Research Editor, 15 October 2001, updated November 15, 2018

Everything that is written by Global Research is completely untrue.

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@oralloy,

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You cannot point out a single thing that is untrue in any of my posts.

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@oralloy,

You do realize you merely say the opposite of whatever you are responding to as though that is proof of proving the statements of the posts you are responding wrong. In other words, it is merely two opposing statements unless one or both bring some kind of other evidence to back up statements made. If the first statement was made without any kind of proof, then you made a statement without proof, that is just two statements without proof.

Most of the time, the first party does bring some kind of background information in the first place and then you merely say No, and then say the opposite of whatever the first party said which is no proof at all. Which is why your oft repeated statement of "you have proven none of my statements wrong" is just inane. In this case of one having brought outside proof, you are then in the position of proving them wrong. Others are not in the position of proving just a blank statement by you wrong.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

That's a bit hypocritical. Where are your complaints about incessant untrue claims about imaginary errors in my posts?

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@oralloy,

I am not going through loads of posts to find the instances of your doing what I have accused you of doing. People can either take my post and agree with it, or not agree with it. I take it you disagree, fine.

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@revelette1,

Well since your broken record complaint is one-sided, unfair, and hypocritical, I will be sure to treat it with the degree of respect that it deserves.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

You do realize you merely say the opposite of whatever you are responding to as though that is proof of proving the statements of the posts you are responding wrong. In other words, it is merely two opposing statements unless one or both bring some kind of other evidence to back up statements made. If the first statement was made without any kind of proof, then you made a statement without proof, that is just two statements without proof.

"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
--Christopher Hitchens

revelette1 wrote:

Most of the time, the first party does bring some kind of background information in the first place and then you merely say No, and then say the opposite of whatever the first party said which is no proof at all.

I have always made it clear that I will provide cites upon request to back up anything that I say. And I have always done so when requested.

That is standard practice on messageboards. People don't provide a list of cites in each post as if their posts were miniature Wikipedia articles. That would make posting tedious in the extreme. Instead, people provide supporting evidence whenever someone challenges them to back up their claims.

revelette1 wrote:

Which is why your oft repeated statement of "you have proven none of my statements wrong" is just inane.

It is a perfectly appropriate response when someone falsely accuses me of having made a huge number of imaginary errors in previous posts.

revelette1 wrote:

In this case of one having brought outside proof, you are then in the position of proving them wrong.

If I confront a post that tries to bring in outside proof, I will consider making an effort to bring in proof of my own.

I seldom confront such a post however.

revelette1 wrote:

Others are not in the position of proving just a blank statement by you wrong.

If they feel that I am wrong about something, they could certainly provide evidence of this error if they chose to.

Another option would be to challenge me to justify my claims.

Another option would be to just accept all of my posts as true (probably the wisest option).

If they, however, choose the option of falsely accusing me of having made a large number of errors in previous posts, then it is reasonable for me to challenge them to point out these supposed errors.

The fact that they can never point out any of these errors then shows that their claim about me is untrue.

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@Builder,

Builder wrote:

LOL, Love it, as you openly concur that the US of A funded and established the beginnings of what is now one of the largest ragtag mercenaray forces on this planet.

The Taliban tend to keep to Afghanistan. And while US taxpayer money was used to fund them, it was Pakistan that established them.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

The Taliban tend to keep to Afghanistan. And while US taxpayer money was used to fund them, it was Pakistan that established them.

Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban are not affiliated nor maintain any relation.

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@oralloy,

Oh give it a rest. Particularly with te shooting of tamir rice a clusterfuck by the city and the cop which led to another nad shooting by a bad cop and a black kid dead
Loehmznn was.nt lynched. Hed been a cop in another city where he was judged mentally unstable and unfit for duty. He should never have applied for another cop job but he did and didnt tell them ogf his past. That was his lie not exactly the little white lie oralloy is trying to make it seem. The cpd never checked his history. The caller to tge pd twice said he thought it might be a toy gun and it was a kid.The dispatcher left that info out. His partnn

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na veteran cop didnt shoot. Only loehmann the unstable newbie shot. He in effect lynched tzmir. The coty did not lynch him. Tamir was 12 years old. He was a kid with a toy gun. It was a bad shooting by someone who had no business being a cop bit was. Your analysis suvks as usual oralloy.
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@MontereyJack,

Request denied. I refuse to stop defending facts.

Not a bad cop. He didn't do anything wrong.

Trumping up an excuse to fire someone when they have not done anything wrong is very much lynching.

You cannot point out anything untrue in any of my posts.

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@oralloy,

Hef been fired before for being a bad cop
He proved that again.

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@MontereyJack,

Hardly a bad cop. The earlier police department let him go because they assessed that he was not mentally fit to be a police officer, not because of any wrongdoing or bad behavior on his part.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban are not affiliated nor maintain any relation.

If they are unrelated to the Afghan Taliban, then why bring them up?

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@oralloy,

Isn't it obvious? You had placed them both in one subject line which, gave the appearance that you believed them to be the same animal.

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@oralloy,

You mixed these two, I responded to that.

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@oralloy,

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...not mentally fit

And Loehmann didn't bother mentioning that when applying elsewhere?
That misrepresentation of himself is on its own enough evidence to show he's not cop material or good.

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@oralloy,

Its a get out of jail free card for cops who do bad shootings like loehmann and tamir rice or the cop who shot the guy running away from a moving violation in the back or the guy killed in his own backyard holding a cellphone or the securityh guard who told them he had apermit for his gun and was killed reaching for his wallet. There are too many bogus hair triggers which seem to result in black folk dead.

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@oralloy,

And he proved that diagnosis right and a kid died.

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