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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 02:12 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
I guess that means they'll have to stay in a jail cell if they don't want to leave immediately of their own volition, eh?

Or I suppose they could just take them a couple of miles out into the Atlantic Ocean and dump them. That's still part of the U.S., so they haven't been "removed" from the country that way, see?
I'm always pleased to learn from your legal skills - it widens my horizon to the darkest and dumbest parts of the American society.
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Blickers
 
  4  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 02:12 am
@Brandon9000,
Quote Brandon:
Quote:
No, it isn't racism. That's incorrect logic. Trump had a specific and frequently discussed policy regarding Mexico, so it is perfectly possible that someone with a family connection with Mexico would have a different position than someone without a connection to Mexico.

You're racist. You want to disqualify judges from presiding over cases based on race or ethnicity. By your logic, a judge of Italian descent could not preside over a trial of a Mafia member, and a Jewish judge could not preside over the case of a Jewish stock swindler.

Sorry, we don't disqualify judges based on their ethnicity.
old europe
 
  2  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 02:23 am
@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:
Trump had a specific and frequently discussed policy regarding Mexico, so it is perfectly possible that someone with a family connection with Mexico would have a different position than someone without a connection to Mexico.


What family connection with Mexico, Brandon? Are you talking about his ethnicity?
layman
 
  -1  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 02:25 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:

You're racist.


Let's see here, eh? You're saying it's racist to suggest that someone might be biased due to their "racial" identity.

Then you say Brandon is a racist.

So, by your definition, that make YOU a racist, eh?

Figures, sho nuff. To a cheese-eater, everything a person says, or doesn't say, is racist. They forget that they are including themselves.
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layman
 
  1  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 02:28 am
@old europe,
I hear-tell that that judge leads a Cinco de Mayo parade in Indiana every year. What's that tellya?
Blickers
 
  3  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 02:41 am
@layman,
And if a judge is presiding over a case of a Mafia member he can't be of Italian descent, right? Wrong.

If you want to disqualify judges of a certain descent or ethnicity from presiding over cases because their ethnicity makes them unfit to do so, you are a racist. And that is what Trump said about the judge presiding over his Trump university case, and Brandon is backing Trump's comment up.

By the way, if we have a violent confrontation between a black person and a white person, who do we allow to preside over the case? Can't be a black judge, according to you he will be biased to the black. Can't have a white judge, according to you, he will be biased to the white. How about a Hispanic judge, or is being classified as being nonwhite disqualify her too, because she will lean toward the nonwhite automatically, according to you.

You are racist if you say a judge's ethnicity will render him or her unable to preside over a case.
layman
 
  1  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 02:54 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:

You are racist if you say a judge's ethnicity will render him or her unable to preside over a case.


But Brandon didn't say any such thing. He just said it wouldn't be racist to "wonder" if someone might be biased when you believe he has made highly questionable rulings against you.

Quote:
Trump had a specific and frequently discussed policy regarding Mexico, so it is perfectly possible that someone with a family connection with Mexico would have a different position than someone without a connection to Mexico.


Yet you called HIM a racist (not Trump), and you weren't just wondering, either. Is failing to share your opinion of what racism is "racist," that it?

I mean, what's the deal here?

Brandon said bias was "possible." You, apparently, are suggesting it would be "impossible."
hightor
 
  2  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 06:25 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
In essence he replied just as millions of Americans would: How can we make them any angrier at us?


We can't make the angry ones any more angry but we can definitely nudge some of the moderate ones over the edge.

Unlike most of my liberal acquaintances, I'm not a big fan of immigration or refugee resettlement — not for the reasons usually cited by conservatives, however. But focusing on a particular religious group (even if restricted to a few nations) is predictably just the sort of response which courts a worldwide chorus of opprobrium.

Quote:
You would think, wouldn't you, that this remarkable sense of pride and honor that underpins their culture along with the sense of community defined by ummat al-Islamiyah, would result in them doing all they could to take care of Muslim refugees and not only not leaving it to the infidels, but getting angry if the infidels balk in any way.


No, personally I wouldn't think that. Islam isn't that kind of belief system. Its doctrines are too obscure, too wedded to a mythologized 7th Century nomadic culture. There's no tradition of "higher criticism" and critical study of the religion's origins has been suppressed. Indoctrinated with the idea that God is beyond all comprehension and trained to ritual submission, there's no place for independent critical thinking. The sense of pride and honor you describe doesn't grow out of an individual's sense of growth, stoic virtue, or personal achievement but solely from belonging to a group and conforming to its doctrines.

If the West were really serious about defanging radical Islam it could ignore individual Muslims and work instead to delegitimize the faith itself. Remnants of paganism could be exposed, revisionist critiques could be applied to the early history of the faith, psychologists could describe and deconstruct its interior logic, Hollywood could produce movies featuring apostate heroes, comedians could lampoon the notion of angelic messengers or Divine Will. The Mission: Make Islam Irrelevant! I only see one big drawback to this sort of cultural campaign: people could just as easily use similar stones of fact and logic against the glass cathedral of Christendom. Ooops!
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 06:56 am
HIAS (which used to stand for Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society) is the oldest international migration and refugee resettlement agency in the U.S.A. .
Quote:
Trump stonewalling only Jewish refugee resettlement agency recognized by U.S.

HIAS chief Mark Hetfield tells Haaretz that Trump's executive order is an 'international train wreck' and warns there may be no way to overturn it.
[...]
“We are appalled, especially at a time when the world is in its greatest refugee crisis since World War II, and that [the order] was issued on International Holocaust Remembrance Day. The entire Refugee Convention was written to make sure the Holocaust would never happen again, that refugees would never again be handed back to their executioners as they were in the 1930s.”
The one bright spot, Hetfield says, is support from the Jewish community – especially from synagogues and individuals at the grass roots. “It’s very heartening,” he said. “We have a lot of support behind us right now, and that’s what keeps me going.”
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Frugal1
 
  -3  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:09 am
Islam is an ancient death cult with modern weapons provided to them by the last democrat president of these United States.
farmerman
 
  4  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:12 am
@Frugal1,
and Kim Jong Un is out to capture our CHEESE!!
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hightor
 
  3  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:20 am
@Frugal1,
Quote:
Islam is an ancient death cult with modern weapons provided to them by the last democrat president of these United States.

Another misleading statement by a robot programmed to spit out oversimplifications, half-truths, and alternative facts. Truth is, we've been sending arms to Islamic groups for years, starting with Ronald Reagan's support of the Afghan Mujahadeen, remnants of which morphed into al-Quaeda by the '90s. But yeah, there are US-made arms all over the world. Capturing an invader's weapons and using them against the invader is a classic tactic for guerilla warfare, first articulated by Mao zedong.
Frugal1
 
  -1  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:25 am
@hightor,
No, it's actually a true statement.

Your attempt to make them look like victims failed miserably
hightor
 
  3  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:31 am
@Frugal1,
I made no suggestion of any "victims"; what are you talking about?
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:33 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Not only Jews oppose:
Quote:
By giving preference to Christians over Muslims, religious leaders have said the executive order pits one faith against another. By barring any refugees from entering the United States for nearly four months, it leaves people to suffer longer in camps, and prevents families from reuniting. Also, many religious leaders have said that putting an indefinite freeze on refugees from Syria, and cutting the total number of refugees admitted this year by 60,000, shuts the door to those most in need.

“We believe in assisting all, regardless of their religious beliefs,” said Bishop Joe S. Vásquez, the chairman of the committee on migration for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

Jen Smyers, the director of policy and advocacy for the immigration and refugee program of Church World Service, a ministry affiliated with dozens of Christian denominations, called Friday a “shameful day” in America’s history.
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Frugal1
 
  -1  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:36 am
Baring illegal immigrants is the right thing to do, it's the right thing to do.
farmerman
 
  3  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:37 am
@Frugal1,
Im sure thy dont wanna be seen in the nude
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Frugal1
 
  0  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:38 am
@hightor,
The modern weapons O-boy purposely left behind were not 'captured', they were gifts from this nations last democrat president.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:41 am
http://i64.tinypic.com/1zcius3.jpg
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hightor
 
  3  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 07:57 am
@Frugal1,
Quote:
...they were gifts from this nations last democrat president.

citation please — from an objective news source
 

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