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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
RABEL222
 
  3  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 08:13 pm
Russia landed 100 armed troops in Venezuela while Trump was twittering no collision proved. Putin must have watched for this chance to gain more traction in south America. Its sure he will kiss putines a$$ and claim its a humanitarian visit.
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neptuneblue
 
  1  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 08:13 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
No, that proves what I said. You have officially lost this argument.


Oh my. I'm not even sure you're dealing with a full deck let alone able to understand that Twitter is not an official media channel of much of anything besides the Kartrashians, Trump and 12 yr olds.

coldjoint wrote:
Now what have I said about Islam that is not true? I suspect you have nothing, don't let me down.


I don't debate religion. I believe in ALL religions. It allows cake to be served that much more often. Or pie. And ice cream.
BillRM
 
  3  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 08:22 pm
@izzythepush,
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It's a monstrous lie, Trump represents the elite, the moneyed establishment, and the only thing thwarting him is his own stupidity.


Thank god he is as stupid as he is as a bright demagogue could do almost unlimited harm not only to the US but the Western world as a whole.

We need to rework how we are selecting our political leaders in the US an it look like the UK have their own problems also that need to be address.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 08:32 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Thank god he is as stupid as he is as a bright demagogue could do almost do unlimited harm not only to the US but the Western world as a whole.

He is championing Western civilization. Did he wipe out ISIS(their land)? He is trying to repair Obama's damage. Obama had the people at each others throats before this election with his race baiting and victim culture, and other lies. How dumb can someone be not to see that?
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 08:40 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
I don't debate religion.

Then don't criticize someone who does. If you will not back up what you say, do not say it.
neptuneblue
 
  3  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 08:44 pm
@coldjoint,
Lol! STFU.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 08:50 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
Lol! STFU.

Recess time? Have fun.
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glitterbag
 
  4  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:01 pm
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:

These loudly "tolerant" college students are the children and grandchildren of A2K liberals. Laughing



You asked me if I'm hurt.....no, I'm not hurt....I'm angry. I expect some of the folks here to hit below the belt because they are narrow minded pigs...I don't think I need to say any thing else.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:01 pm
You have to think that the MSM and the talking heads lied to Americans for close to three years. Just think about all the other things they told you and did not tell you. Nothing about Christians being slaughtered in Nigeria by Islamists(Islam). And the situation in Europe whitewashed to make the globalist EU look good.

They are the disinformation. How can you trust someone that lied to your face for three years? Not a rhetorical question, how?

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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:06 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
You asked me if I'm hurt.....no, I'm not hurt....I'm angry. I expect some of the folks here to hit below the belt because they are narrow minded pigs...I don't think I need to say any thing else.

Do you need directions to the door?
glitterbag
 
  3  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:10 pm
@coldjoint,
Oh darn, did you think I was talking to you???? Go soak your head you farging newbie. If I want to hear any crap from you, I'll squeeze your head.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:26 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Oh darn, did you think I was talking to you????

No I didn't. I was simply saying you can leave anytime you wish and offered my help. The shortage of gratitude here is amazing.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:35 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2dF3GYW0AEu2FH.jpg
Got to love that picture.
http://dcwhispers.com/potus-trump-now-turns-to-d-c-swamp-and-says-my-turn/?fbclid=IwAR2LxrsRNZxQNeJpXaLJg3ALx7OqOE57BGKseR8xMWrNNpbHHTcbhFkeOlo#ifbfVXiJKeZmhMsT.97
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:36 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2dAwoYX4AMdIHB.jpg
Laughing Laughing Laughing
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hightor
 
  3  
Mon 25 Mar, 2019 03:42 am
No Collusion, No ‘Exoneration’

A Trump-friendly attorney general’s letter doesn’t do justice to the special counsel’s investigation. Release his whole report.

Quote:
On its face, the letter that Attorney General William Barr sent to Congress on Sunday afternoon, summarizing the key findings of the special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, is good news, not just for President Trump.

According to Mr. Barr’s four-page summary, Mr. Mueller and his team were unable to establish that anyone connected to the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government when it interfered to help Mr. Trump in the 2016 presidential campaign.

This should provide some relief to all Americans who have harbored fears that a presidential candidate was conspiring with Vladimir Putin to subvert American democracy. Mr. Mueller — who never once responded to the shameless stream of insults Mr. Trump has hurled at him over the last two years — is as careful and thorough an investigator as there is. His investigation lasted almost two years, issued more than 2,800 subpoenas and roughly 500 search warrants and heard from a similar number of witnesses. If he couldn’t find any links, it’s doubtful anyone could.

What this outcome is not, however, is a “Complete and Total EXONERATION,” as Mr. Trump unsurprisingly spun it. Mr. Mueller explicitly declined to exonerate the president on the matter of obstruction of justice — a crime that constituted one of the articles of impeachment for both Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton. After examining Mr. Trump’s actions and weighing “difficult issues” of law and fact, Mr. Mueller punted. “While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,” the report states.

Mr. Barr wasn’t as cautious. Less than 48 hours after receiving Mr. Mueller’s report, the attorney general briskly decided that Mr. Trump had not obstructed justice. Why not? Because there was no underlying crime to obstruct, Mr. Barr said, and anyway, most of Mr. Trump’s behavior took place in full public view, had no connection to any legal proceeding, and wasn’t “done with corrupt intent.” How did Mr. Barr make these determinations so quickly? On what evidence in the report did he base it?

Recall that Mr. Barr got his current job only after Mr. Trump shoved out his predecessor, Jeff Sessions, for not showing him enough personal loyalty and shutting down the Russia investigation at the start. Among the reasons Mr. Barr may have appealed to the president was an unsolicited memo he sent last year to the Justice Department, taking the position that Mr. Mueller should not be allowed to question Mr. Trump about obstructing justice, and that the president could not be guilty of obstruction unless there were an underlying crime to obstruct.

In other words, Mr. Barr did exactly as Mr. Trump hoped he would. But there’s a reason obstructing justice is a crime on its own. The justice system doesn’t work when people lie to authorities, no matter why they do so.

Mr. Barr’s curious views on obstruction are just one reason that Mr. Mueller’s full report must be made available, immediately, to both Congress and the American people.

Also, while Mr. Mueller may not have found sufficient evidence of a criminal conspiracy, let’s not lose sight of what we already know, both from his investigation and from news reports over the past two years.

We know that the Russian government interfered repeatedly in the 2016 presidential election, by hacking into computer servers of the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign. We know that it did this with the goals of dividing Americans and helping Donald Trump win the presidency. We know that when top members of the Trump campaign learned about this interference, they didn’t just fail to report it to the F.B.I. They welcomed it. They encouraged it. They made jokes about it. On the same day that Mr. Trump publicly urged the Russians to hack into Hillary Clinton’s emails, they began to do just that. And we know that when questioned by federal authorities, many of Mr. Trump’s top associates lied, sometimes repeatedly, about their communications with Russians. None of this is in dispute.

That Mr. Mueller couldn’t find sufficient evidence that Mr. Trump or anyone involved in his campaign had coordinated directly with the Russians may be explained by the fact that they didn’t need to. They were already getting that help.

We also know that what began as a counterintelligence investigation quickly turned into a criminal investigation, in large part because Mr. Trump surrounded himself with criminals. To date, his campaign chairman, Paul Manafort; his deputy campaign chairman, Rick Gates; his national security adviser, Michael Flynn; his campaign foreign policy adviser, George Papadopoulos; and his personal lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen, have all pleaded guilty or been convicted of federal crimes. In January, Mr. Mueller charged Roger Stone, Mr. Trump’s longtime aide, with multiple counts of witness tampering, obstructing justice, and making false statements.

Imagine if we’d learned all of this just Sunday, in one fell swoop, rather than in a trickle of indictments and prosecutions over the last 18 months.

Americans are, of course, continuing to learn more unsettling truths from the dozen or so other investigations that are continuing, such as the one in New York that has already landed Mr. Cohen a three-year prison sentence for campaign-finance violations that prosecutors said Mr. Trump was also involved in, from the White House.

One might expect Mr. Trump to feel happiness at Sunday’s news, but for him, that emotion seems to transform into a desire for vengeance. It’s no surprise that he and his allies are once again floating the idea of prosecuting Mrs. Clinton. Remember her? She was the candidate who, during a presidential debate all the way back in 2016, said: “It’s pretty clear you won’t admit that the Russians have engaged in cyberattacks against the United States of America, that you encouraged espionage against our people, that you are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do and that you continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race.”

Mr. Putin did have a clear favorite. He interfered on his behalf, and his favorite was elected president. Trump campaign officials knew about this and were more than happy for the help. Then they lied about receiving that help. This isn’t so complicated. And while Mr. Mueller may not be able to do anything about it, Congress, and the American people, certainly can.

nyt
Builder
 
  -1  
Mon 25 Mar, 2019 04:49 am
@hightor,
It's a long way from being "over", mister.

The FISA investigation continues.

The fact that Mueller found nothing worthy of merit, means the dems are again under the spotlight over this.
hightor
 
  5  
Mon 25 Mar, 2019 04:59 am
@Builder,
Quote:
The fact that Mueller found nothing worthy of merit, means the dems are again under the spotlight over this.

What to you mean "nothing worthy of merit"? He apparently was unable to discover any evidence that the campaign conspired with the Russians. He didn't have to prove "collusion" because it, in itself, is not a crime. Informally, we all know there was "collusion" — the meeting in Trump Tower, for instance, to see what "dirt" the Russians could give them concerning Clinton. I'd say that the determination that this was the extent of the campaign's dealing with Russia is a finding "worthy of merit". If the report saved the country from having to undergo an impeachment process that would be "worthy of merit" as well. I don't see why the Democrats would be "under the spotlight" for an investigation brought by Trump's Justice Department.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 25 Mar, 2019 10:17 am
@hightor,
Quote:
He apparently was unable to discover any evidence that the campaign conspired with the Russians.

That means here is no evidence. "Apparently" has nothing to do with it. Three years of lies no one will ever apologize for and a bunch of people so full of hate and a lust for power that refuse to accept the fact they have failed. Pitiful, un-American, and very bad for this country.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 25 Mar, 2019 10:24 am
@hightor,
It's another white wash in the Whitehouse.

Now the fall back position is Trump hasn't spent his entire presidency licking Putin's arse because he's a traitor, it's because he's a coward.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 25 Mar, 2019 10:27 am
@izzythepush,
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It's another white wash in the Whitehouse.

Like the "Asian" gangs in the UK that are really Muslims? Clean the UK cesspool of cowardice and submission and get back to us.
Quote:
it's because he's a coward.

No doubt you know from personal experience what a coward is, Trump is not one.
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