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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2019 03:59 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Snopes is where it always has been,

Snopes can sometimes be useful as a list of cites from other sources, but they have been caught lying too many times to be trusted themselves.
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lmur
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 01:36 am
At least 40 dead in New Zealand Mosque attacks. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47578798. Three in custody, one of whom is an Australian with an anti-immigrant agenda.

Edit: live updates from the BBC at this link.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-47578860
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 03:39 am
'Trump is a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose': New Zealand gunman's sick manifesto reveals he supported the president and wanted to spark 'a civil war in the U.S.' by massacring dozens
dailymail
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 04:01 am
@coldjoint,
Which has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that we know from Tucker Carlson's own words that he is a horrible bigot. He's said so. Repeatedly. With those reprehensible words, he's removed himself from someone who deserves to be in a position to set public discourse.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 04:03 am
@oralloy,
They document what they say. You hate them because they destroy the false memes you believe in implicitly.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 04:16 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
They document what they say.
Sometimes, yes. Thus my comment that they are convenient as a list of external cites.

MontereyJack wrote:
You hate them because they destroy the false memes you believe in implicitly.
I don't hate them. And I don't believe in false memes.

I merely give Snopes zero credibility because they have been caught lying to advance a leftist agenda.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 04:40 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
I merely give Snopes zero credibility because they have been caught lying to advance a leftist agenda.

When and what for???
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 04:40 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
I merely give Snopes zero credibility because they have been caught lying to advance a leftist agenda.


Paid part of the misinformation network. Snopes have been snoped enough times to render all of their "work" as suspect.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 04:46 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
When and what for???
It was a few years back. Obama was trying to violate the Second Amendment. The NRA condemned him for doing so.

Snopes rated the NRA's condemnation a lie, despite the fact that Obama was clearly trying to violate the Second Amendment. The only justification that they gave for this rating was a quote from Obama saying that he was not trying to violate the Second Amendment.
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 05:01 am
@oralloy,
This article?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-suspends-2nd-amendment/
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 05:07 am
North Korea may suspend nuclear talks with 'gangster-like' U.S.: diplomat
Quote:
North Korea is considering suspending talks with the United States and may rethink a ban on missile and nuclear tests unless Washington makes concessions, news reports from the North’s capital on Friday quoted a senior diplomat as saying.

Vice Foreign Minister Choe Son Hui blamed top U.S. officials for the breakdown of last month’s summit in Hanoi between U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, Russia’s Tass news agency and the Associated Press said.

“We have no intention to yield to the U.S. demands (at the Hanoi summit) in any form, nor are we willing to engage in negotiations of this kind,” TASS quoted Choe as telling reporters in the North Korean capital.

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and national security adviser John Bolton “created the atmosphere of hostility and mistrust and, therefore, obstructed the constructive effort for negotiations between the supreme leaders of North Korea and the United States”, Tass quoted Choe as saying.

Kim is set to make an official announcement soon on his position on the denuclearisation talks with the United States and the North’s further actions, it added, citing Choe.

Choe said Washington threw away a golden opportunity at the summit and warned that Kim might rethink a moratorium on missile launches and nuclear tests, the Associated Press news agency said.

“I want to make it clear that the gangster-like stand of the U.S. will eventually put the situation in danger,” AP quoted her as saying. But she added: “Personal relations between the two supreme leaders are still good and the chemistry is mysteriously wonderful.”

South Korea, which has an ambitious agenda of engagement with North Korea that is dependent on Pyongyang and Washington resolving at least some of their differences, said it was too early to tell what Choe’s comments might mean.

“We cannot judge the current situation based solely on Vice Minister Choe Son Hui’s statements. We are watching the situation closely. In any situation, our government will endeavor for the restart of North Korea-U.S. negotiations,” South Korea’s presidential Blue House said in a statement.

Choe’s comments echoed the North’s usual rhetoric at tense points in its dealings with Washington. North Korea expert Joshua Pollack said North Korea may be delivering an ultimatum.

reuters

Thank goodness they're still emotionally close. Might still be hope for that Peace Prize.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 05:16 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
This article?
No.

I've tried to look up the incident before, since I remember it so clearly, but for some reason I never could find it.

I just tried again, and this time I found it easily.

This is the incident where Snopes lied to justify an attempted violation of the Second Amendment:
http://www.snopes.com/fact-check/un-arms-trade-treaty/

I'm bookmarking it (with lots of tags on the bookmark), so in the future I should be able to cite it more readily.
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 05:26 am
@MontereyJack,
Has the fellow been talking about me? I expect that would make up a collection of very fine literature.
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 05:35 am
@blatham,
Quote:
I expect that would make up a collection of very fine literature.

Their fawning sentimentality eventually wearies the reader.
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 05:40 am
@hightor,
He loves me. He really loves me. My mother would be so very proud.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 06:13 am
@oralloy,
This article looks about right to me. What seems to be the problem?
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2019 06:15 am
@Olivier5,
The UN was trying to implement a worldwide civilian gun ban with this treaty. Snopes falsely claimed that the UN was not trying to do this.
 

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