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oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 02:43 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
oralloy wrote:
When I said that it was a joint endeavor, what I meant is that they worked on the project together, and they each came away from the project with the same working A-bomb design.
They didn't.
The historians say they did.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 02:52 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

The historians say they did.
So they were in Fort de Châtillon in 1955 already? Co-made the drawn up of the M1 machine?
I asked you for a source before.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 02:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
And I gave you a source.
http://able2know.org/topic/355218-3351#post-6803234
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 02:58 am
@oralloy,
Your source says nothing about what I asked.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 03:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The source says that the first French A-bomb was a joint effort with the Israelis:

the French nuclear test in 1960 made two nuclear powers not one--such was the depth of collaboration.25

There were several Israeli observers at the French nuclear tests and the Israelis had "unrestricted access to French nuclear test explosion data."26

Israel also supplied essential technology and hardware.27 The French reportedly shipped reprocessed plutonium back to Israel as part of their repayment for Israeli scientific help.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 03:16 am
@oralloy,
Your source used Cohen as source.(Cohen, op. cit., Israel and the Bomb, 82-83.)
And Cohen described there in detail how Israel developed the A-bomb with assistance from France.
Nothing more, nothing less.
hightor
 
  6  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 03:55 am
Jerome Corsi retracts InfoWars story that spread Seth Rich conspiracy theory
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 04:04 am
@Walter Hinteler,
These are the three cite notes from what I quoted:

25. Weissman and Krosney, op. cit.,114-117
26. Cohen, op. cit., Israel and the Bomb, 82-83.
27. Spector, Leonard S., The Undeclared Bomb (Cambridge, Massachusetts: Ballinger Publishers, 1988), 387 (n.22).
izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 04:37 am
Quote:
Hillary Clinton has ruled out a second US presidential run in 2020.

"I'm not running, but I'm going to keep on working and speaking and standing up for what I believe," Mrs Clinton told New York's News 12 TV channel.

As the Democratic candidate in 2016, Mrs Clinton was widely expected to become the first female US president, before a shock defeat by Mr Trump.

Asked by News 12 if she would run again for any public office in future, she said: "I don't think so."

The interview is the first time Mrs Clinton has definitively rebutted speculation that she might take on Mr Trump again in 2020.

She said she had spoken to some of the declared 2020 Democratic candidates. "I've told every one of them, don't take anything for granted," she said.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47453302

Clinton ain't running, but will that stop the lickspittles going on about her? Of course it won't because slagging off Clinton is all they've got. It's not like Trump has achieved anything other than making America look weak and frightened. Most people would not consider that an achievement.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 04:43 am
@oralloy,
You didn't quote them. (Your source used them, but didn't give literal quotes either.)
Weissman/Krosney's The Islamic Bomb and Spector's The Undeclared Bomb say anything that could corroborate your false statement.
For Cohen - see my above response or, even better, re-read the book yourself.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 05:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Your source used them, but didn't give literal quotes either.
"Unrestricted access to French nuclear test explosion data" wasn't a literal quote?

Walter Hinteler wrote:
Weissman/Krosney's The Islamic Bomb and Spector's The Undeclared Bomb say anything that could corroborate your false statement.
For Cohen - see my above response or, even better, re-read the book yourself.
Did Weissman and Krosney say "the French nuclear test in 1960 made two nuclear powers not one--such was the depth of collaboration"?

Did Cohen say "There were several Israeli observers at the French nuclear tests and the Israelis had 'unrestricted access to French nuclear test explosion data'"?

Did Spector say "Israel also supplied essential technology and hardware"?
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 11:03 am
Quote:
Omar and AOC Don’t Get To Get To Define Anti-Semitism

Quote:
That is to say, that when Rep. Ilhan Omar consistently says things that most Jews say are hurtful, it’s supposedly not anti-Semitic, but rather her “engaging in anti-Semitic tropes.”

So, what is a trope? Technically, it is the metaphorical or figurative use of a word or expression. So, in fact, my satirical definition wasn’t far off the mark. When the news media suggests that Omar is merely trading in tropes, they are absolving her of actual anti-Semitism. And it does seem to be uniquely used in this context — nobody suggested that by wearing blackface in the 1980s, Ralph Northam was engaging in a racist trope. He was just being a racist.

See how that works? Omar hates Jews. AOC hates anyone in her way.
http://thefederalist.com/2019/03/05/omar-and-aoc-dont-get-to-get-to-define-anti-semitism/
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 11:16 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
It's not like Trump has achieved anything other than making America look weak and frightened

Weak coming from the UK? Don't make me laugh. Free speech in your country is gone. Your news is censored and your government is trying to overturn the Brexit vote with dirty tricks insulting your citizens that are only subjects to them.

Do not take out the fact that the UK is in the toilet on the US. Remember some turds float for awhile only to sink to the bottom. Enjoy the trip.

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coldjoint
 
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Tue 5 Mar, 2019 11:35 am
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hightor
 
  5  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 11:42 am
@coldjoint,
Antisemitism at the core of white nationalism

Quote:
In the 1990s, I was part of a coalition working to reduce hate crimes and bigoted violence and, for research purposes, I attended a pseudo-emergency preparedness conference. This conference was attended by various groups, including armed militias, neo-Nazis and other assorted white nationalists. Christian identity adherents who taught that people of color where subhuman, Jews were the literal children of Satan and white Northern Europeans were the true descendants of Israel were also sprinkled liberally throughout the more than 500 individuals in attendance.

You might wonder how an African-American was treated at a gathering of those who thought that people who didn’t look, think or worship like themselves were less than human, but for the most part I was actually welcomed. In fact, a white man who was a member of an armed militia group said to me, “I’m glad to see someone like you here” – meaning someone black. But, he asked, somewhat puzzled, why I was at the conference? I quickly made up the explanation that I was there to learn a little bit about survival and what was really going on in the country, so that my community could also prepare and protect ourselves. He said he completely understood me. In fact, some of the conference speakers would talk about the need to expand the white nationalist movement – what they then called the “patriot movement” – to reach out to blacks, Mexicans and Asians, citing the need to form a collation against a larger enemy.

The white nationalist movement – which is now re-branded as the “alt-right” – has managed to coalesce around one common enemy: the Jew.

I was honored to speak at Global Forum for Combating Anti-Semitism in Israel and to explain why, as a non-Jew and an African-American, I am so focused on the problem of antisemitism. My deep concern is that antisemitism has become the engine that drives white nationalist racism, Islamophobia, nativism and homophobia.

To repeat, antisemitism is not merely another form of racism for the white nationalist – it is the movement’s very ideological core.

Its genesis lies in the inability of adherents of racial segregation to justify the victory of the civil rights movements of the 1960s. It was then that the modern white nationalist movement borrowed from older European antisemitism and constructed a worldview that contended that whites had lost their God-ordained supremacy due to a worldwide Jewish conspiracy.

This is why people like George Soros, who is Jewish, wealthy and a major philanthropist, centers heavily in the rhetoric of white nationalists. “Soros” has become shorthand for “Jew.” This is also why communities that care about combating the white supremacist movement should not ignore how prominent Jewish celebrities are used as fuel for international antisemitism. Soros has been attacked as a Nazi. This is not acceptable. It is a desecration to attack a survivor of the Holocaust as a member of the Nazi Party. We must be courageous, and we must speak up. We should identify the tactics and messages of international antisemitism for what they are.


Because antisemitism is at the core of modern white nationalism, adherents of this ideology seek a whites-only ethno-state and see Jews as the only collective force that keeps them from attaining this goal. In Charlottesville, Virginia, this message was made loud and clear. It’s why the tiki-torch wielding mob of white men chanted that it was “Jews” who will not replace them – the white race – as controllers of the United States.

Jews and non-Jews need to understand that we have a unified threat. The white nationalist movement in the United States doesn’t simply seek to spread hate, it seeks to use hate to build political power. White nationalists want to influence what happens in the political mainstream.

The federal government needs to investigate white nationalist activity and violence in the US. People are being threatened and murdered and it is the responsibility of our government to protect all of its citizens.

Those who oppose antisemitism and white supremacy together have our own work to do. We must raise our voices and support one another’s work. It will not just be Jews, Latinos, African-Americans or Muslims who suffer. It will be everyone who doesn’t identify as a white supremacist.

Let’s put aside partisanship and let’s tackle the social movement that seeks destroy us all. This is the priority before us in this moment of history.

jpost
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 11:47 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Antisemitism at the core of white nationalism

Is Omar white?
hightor
 
  2  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 12:12 pm
@coldjoint,
One can understand Palestinian opposition to political Zionism, even if one disagrees with them, because it involves territorial claims and ongoing political repression. White nationalist anti-semitism is entirely based on religion and ethnicity — they're "racists", get it?
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 12:16 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
they're "racists", get it?

Is Omar white?
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 12:54 pm
Quote:
The New York Times Echoes David Duke

https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/duke-600x543.png
https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/53685636_10215186696233290_9037257742275837952_o-600x391.jpg
Is the NYT run by White supremacists?
https://stuartschneiderman.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-new-york-times-echoes-david-duke.html
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hightor
 
  2  
Tue 5 Mar, 2019 12:55 pm
@coldjoint,
Define "white". Then explain why you think it's relevant.
 

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