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maporsche
 
  3  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:09 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

The proposed policies to which Pence was referring would have created a government managed health care system applicable to all. That's socialism.


I don't know that I've seen any serious policies that propose to have government manage the entire healthcare system.

It's more a government managed payment system. You may not think there is a difference, but there is.
georgeob1
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:19 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

It's more a government managed payment system. You may not think there is a difference, but there is.


Please explain just what differences you are referring to.

The existing Medicare system determines just what services Doctors will be paid for providing and what they will be paid for them. (I believe this is what Pence was referring to.) One result is that the number of doctors operating under Medicare is shrinking fast (at least here in Northern California). In my experience of commerce is that he who pays sets the rules. In short the Medical practitioners are in effect employees of the government, and accountable to it and not their patients. Moreover the monopoly power of a government program will affect all medical care.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 11:24 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
The proposed policies to which Pence was referring would have created a government managed health care system applicable to all. That's socialism.
Indeed. The medieval concept of Christian health care was the earliest source for Socialism so to say.
BillW
 
  1  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:14 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

What court does he preside over? Maybe I'm confused, isn't that a picture of our 44th president? Well, obviously not OUR president (as in including you), but MY prewsident.....I forget what country you live in....but I'm pretty hopeful it's not the USA.
Australia
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BillW
 
  2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:19 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Indeed. The medieval concept of Christian health care was the earliest source for Socialism so to say.

Jesus was a socialist!
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:23 pm
@glitterbag,

Quote:
No one has

You mean no one can. Next.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:27 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
and selective quotation from the Koran and ignoring what people actually do.

The quotes do not come from just the Koran. The Hadith and Suna are full of hate for non-Muslims where the Jew is the most hated hands down. There is not a more reliable source because changing any of it will bring the death penalty as prescribed in the Koran and Hadith. Something you would know if you were not just so pig-ignorant about the subject.

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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:37 pm
@BillW,
Quote:
Jesus was a socialist!

Jesus was not involved in politics. He separated church and state. "Render on to Caesar what is Caesars....." Try again.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:55 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
selective quotation from the Koran and ignoring what people actually do.

Here is an idea of what people do.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/TROP.jpg?6011
Now, look at the dates.
Quote:
Other Recent "Misunderstandings
of Islam"

2019.02.28 (Yemen)
Five children are pulled into pieces by an Ansar Allah rocket.

2019.02.26 (Mali)
Jihadists murder a young herdsman, then booby-trap his body with a bomb that kills seventen others, including family.

2019.02.25 (Somalia)
Six woman are among nine street cleaners massacred by al-Shabaab.

2019.02.23 (Mozambique)
Three locals are murdered by Islamic extremists.

2019.02.23 (Iraq)
Five fishermen are attacked and murdered by the Islamic State.

2019.02.21
(Iraq)
Twenty-six members of the Shabak religious minority are discovered in a mass ISIS grave.

(Note: Data for each attack is sometimes pulled from multiple sources. The provided link may not be in complete agreement with the updated detail for the incident).

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 12:57 pm
Quote:
Thousands in Algeria have taken to the streets angry at 81-year-old President Abdelaziz Bouteflika's plan to seek a fifth term in office.

Police fired tear gas at protesters in the capital, Algiers.

Anti-government protests are rare in Algeria but several broke out after Mr Bouteflika confirmed his candidacy.

He has rarely been seen in public since suffering a stroke in 2013 and is currently undergoing medical checks in Switzerland.

As they marched through the streets of Algiers on Friday, some demonstrators carried banners saying "leave means leave". Others stressed their intentions were peaceful.

Some protesters threw stones near the presidential palace and were driven back by police firing tear gas. Witnesses said there were injuries on both sides.

Demonstrations also took place following Friday prayers in several other cities in Algeria.

Mr Bouteflika came to power in 1999 and is credited with putting an end to a civil war that is estimated to have killed more than 100,000 people.

Protests against food prices and unemployment broke out in 2011 during the Arab Spring but he responded by lifting a nearly two-decades old state of emergency, meeting a key demand of protesters.

After his stroke he won re-election in a poll denounced by the opposition and dissolved the country's powerful spy agency, replacing it with a body loyal to him.

Critics say his ill health means that he is unable to perform his duties as president.

Despite the show of dissent, Mr Bouteflika is still widely tipped to win the election in April.

"Twenty years are enough," said one woman, quoted by AFP news agency, who was joined by her husband and children.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47420485
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:04 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
I watched the hearing. Found myself bored most of the time
I watched an action movie instead. Lots of shooting and fighting.

Quote:
"I can only warn people," the disgraced ex-attorney said, "the more people that follow Mr. Trump as I did, blindly, are going to suffer the same consequences that I’m suffering."
Unlikely. I don't intend to ever plead guilty to imaginary crimes.

And if I had a rock solid case for a presidential pardon, I'd not piss off the President by engaging in childish name-calling against him.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:06 pm
Quote:
Trudeau and Wilson-Raybould: The scandal that could unseat Canada's PM

Is Canada's salvation at hand? No Trudeau is a good thing. Any Canadian input?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47408239
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:13 pm
@coldjoint,
Have you seen the way the Canadian govt has been going after Rebel Media?
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:20 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
Have you seen the way the Canadian govt has been going after Rebel Media?

I know the government is giving money to the media outlets that favor liberal causes and policies.

Quote:
The Canadian government's recent announcement that it will be providing more than CDN $600 million (USD $455 million) over the next five years to bail out the country's financially strapped media outlets -- as part of the fall fiscal update about the federal budget ahead of the 2019 federal election -- is not as innocent as it may seem.

The Canadians here seem to welcome censorship and lies. Remember that when they chime in.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13349/canada-government-media
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glitterbag
 
  1  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:26 pm
@coldjoint,
If I ever find my self in need of 'English to gibberish' translation, I'll send for you.

Say goodnight Gracie
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:32 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
If I ever find my self in need of 'English to gibberish' translation

If you ever find yourself contributing anything worthwhile or backing up what you say........ So go right ahead and tell me how and where I am wrong about anything. I expect more name calling and gossip. Don't let me down. Laughing Laughing Laughing
glitterbag
 
  2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:56 pm
@coldjoint,
You're kind of a happy go lucky sort, aren't you?
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 02:02 pm
Quote:
Ocasio-Cortez threatens to unleash progressive activists on moderate Dems

Keep up the good work AOC. You can destroy that political party. Mr. Green
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/ocasio-cortez-threatens-to-unleash-progressive-activists-on-moderate-dems/
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Builder
 
  -4  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 03:18 pm
Nice little round-up of Cohen's "testimony" here.


Quote:
Cohen, speaking in the type of clipped dramatic half sentences you would expect from someone auditioning for a mafia role in a very bad movie, also admitted that he is being showered with book deals and movie offers. He did not name, however, the potential benefactors for whom Wednesday’s testimony was an obvious audition. Congressman Jordan, however, pointed to West Coast billionaire Tom Steyer, who has paid millions to impeach the President, including funding ongoing investigations by the totally discredited British spy, Christopher Steele.

Otherwise, at the end of the hearing, Congressman Jim Jordan summarized the lies which Cohen told in Wednesday’s hearing itself. He claimed that he never committed bank fraud when he was convicted of that crime. While claiming to be a good lawyer, he said he never considered whether the alleged payoffs to women were legal or the right thing to do. He admitted to recording his own clients and in fact, eagerly offered up the tapes if the Committee asked for them, regardless of attorney-client privilege. He gave two completely contradictory accounts of the $130,000 Stormy Daniels payment. He claimed that he did not set up the Women for Cohen twitter account when in fact he did. He claimed that he was not exercising revenge against Donald Trump for not giving him a job in the Administration when, in fact, the prosecutors in the Southern District of New York confirmed that was exactly the case. This was all in addition to the false report, signed under oath, concerning his foreign contacts cited by Congressman Mark Meadows.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 1 Mar, 2019 05:12 pm
Quote:
it can't be easy.

No point putting you in your place either. You seem to be one of the "untouchables" whose biggest contributions are personal attacks and have been for years.

You do not even have the guts to confront me and prove what you say, do you?

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