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@Brand X,

He learned it from his dad who learned it from his dad. Yeap, big time con artists! I think TheRump is going to prison though, unless he dies first.

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@BillW,

a) no evidence that he has committed any crimes

b) can't indict a sitting president

c) at some point he will respond in kind to this witch hunt, so leftists should get all of their tax records ready for the IRS to audit

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@oralloy,

a) yes, there is.self-dealing with foundatiom money, illegal campaign unreported spending to influence outcome of election, a crime. NYT uncovered probable tax evasion with fther's estte, pretty strong ebdence of Russian collusion (aka conspiracy),
b) maybe.Ndevdr been fully adjudicated..DOJ policy now but itll go to SCOT US and what they will decide ican go either way.
\c) incredibly strong firesyorm if he tries. remember Obama and the disproven claims the IRS was targeting right wing pacs.
d) he's in for a world of richly deserved hurt.
e) cohen just reinforced that it was never a witch hunt, but a crook hunt.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

a) no evidence that he has committed any crimes

b) can't indict a sitting president

c) at some point he will respond in kind to this witch hunt, so leftists should get all of their tax records ready for the IRS to audit

Off hand a US firm offering a bribe of around 50 millions to Putin the head of state of Russia to build a Trump tower is slightly illegal not to mention the one hundreds and one other smaller misdeeds such as using the Trump foundation cash as his own piggy bank.

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@BillRM,

What law was violated by any of that?

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@BillW,

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TheRump is the lyingest cheater, conman, racist ever.

Cohen is a prime example of those. Hear me? I am saying Cohen is all of those things and have no intention of proving it. Sound familiar?

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@izzythepush,

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He's getting his tongue ready, Kim Jong Un's arse won't lick itself.

Either will Islam's. I understand there is a line in your country to do just that.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

What law was violated by any of that?

You kidding me right that you do not know that it is a federal crime for a US company/firm to offer business bribes to foreign government officers????

Or it is illegal to misused a foundation funds for you own benefits for that matter.

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@BillRM,

I don't know it. Can you cite the laws?

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

a) yes, there is.self-dealing with foundation money,

What law would Trump have violated there?

MontereyJack wrote:

illegal campaign unreported spending to influence outcome of election, a crime.

Paying a slut to keep quiet about his sex life is not a crime.

MontereyJack wrote:

NYT uncovered probable tax evasion with father's estate,

Within the statute of limitations?

MontereyJack wrote:

pretty strong evidence of Russian collusion (aka conspiracy),

No evidence of that at all.

And not a crime even if it had actually happened.

MontereyJack wrote:

b) maybe. US and what they will decide ican go either way.

No maybe. A sitting president can't be indicted.

MontereyJack wrote:

c) incredibly strong firestorm if he tries.

Earplugs are great at blocking out leftist whining.

MontereyJack wrote:

remember Obama and the disproven claims the IRS was targeting right wing pacs.

Not disproven. Proven.

MontereyJack wrote:

d) he's in for a world of richly deserved hurt.

Hardly. There is no evidence that he committed any crimes. And after Bill Clinton, no one would care even if criminal activity had been proven.

MontereyJack wrote:

e) cohen just reinforced that it was never a witch hunt, but a crook hunt.

Based on the summary from BBC America, all he did was accuse Trump of paying a slut to keep quiet about his sex life. That is hardly a crime.

In a minute I'll hear what the PBS NewsHour has to say about it, but I expect that it'll be much the same.

I'm guessing that the guy's pardon just got fed through a shredder though.

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@BillRM,

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Or it is illegal to misused a foundation funds for you own benefits for that matter.

With any luck, the new AG will be telling Killary that.

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@oralloy,

doesn't matter whether you think they're not laws and there is no evidence. They are laws and rhere is ecidence. You kinda remind me of King Canute sitting on his throne at the waterline and COMMANDING the tide not to come in. The tide didn't pay much attention to him. It came in. Learn from the tide.

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@MontereyJack,

Feel free to provide cites.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

I don't know it. Can you cite the laws?

Sure no problem at all.

It is call the FOREIGN CORRUPT PRACTICES ACT

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https://www.justice.gov/criminal-fraud/foreign-corrupt-practices-act

An Overview

The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act of 1977, as amended, 15 U.S.C. §§ 78dd-1, et seq. ("FCPA"), was enacted for the purpose of making it unlawful for certain classes of persons and entities to make payments to foreign government officials to assist in obtaining or retaining business. Specifically, the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA prohibit the willful use of the mails or any means of instrumentality of interstate commerce corruptly in furtherance of any offer, payment, promise to pay, or authorization of the payment of money or anything of value to any person, while knowing that all or a portion of such money or thing of value will be offered, given or promised, directly or indirectly, to a foreign official to influence the foreign official in his or her official capacity, induce the foreign official to do or omit to do an act in violation of his or her lawful duty, or to secure any improper advantage in order to assist in obtaining or retaining business for or with, or directing business to, any person.

Since 1977, the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA have applied to all U.S. persons and certain foreign issuers of securities. With the enactment of certain amendments in 1998, the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA now also apply to foreign firms and persons who cause, directly or through agents, an act in furtherance of such a corrupt payment to take place within the territory of the United States.

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@oralloy,

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I don't know it. Can you cite the laws?

I will leave it to the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) to cite what laws were violated.

I will leave it to the Special Counsel Robert Mueller to cite what laws were violated.

For the moment just be patient, unless you claim yourself to be a legal expert.

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@Real Music,

No. If people would like to make claims on the internet now, then I am going to ask them to back up their claims with cites now.

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@oralloy,

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No. If people would like to make claims on the internet now, then I am going to ask them to back up their claims with cites now.

Good luck with that.

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@BillRM,

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the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA prohibit the willful use of the mails or any means of instrumentality of interstate commerce corruptly in furtherance of any offer, payment, promise to pay, or authorization of the payment of money or anything of value

Did Trump use interstate commerce in this alleged bribe? Or did it take place entirely outside US territory?

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@oralloy,

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If people would like to make claims on the internet now, then I am going to ask them to back up their claims with cites now.

I am not sure who you are referring to, but I almost always provide the (source) to the claims I make.

I hope you are practicing what you preach.

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81-year-old man attacked in New Jersey grocery store for wearing MAGA hat

These are the people that want to run the country? This violence from the Left was predicted. Many people live to 100.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/81-year-old-man-attacked-in-grocery-store-for-wearing-maga-hat

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