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Builder
 
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Sun 17 Feb, 2019 11:39 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Just who here is "locked in"?


They're lock-step jack-booted, for sure.

No matter what evidence you slap them in the face with, they keep banging on with the tired ol' MSM lines.

Both Schiff and McCabe are neck deep in the doodoo, but we'll not bother about that, shall we?
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georgeob1
 
  -1  
Mon 18 Feb, 2019 12:01 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

George, if I ever become so insecure and desperate for validation I have to resort to larding up my remarks with superfluous, redundant adjectives and condescending middle-school smarty pants put downs in a desperate attempt to become acceptable to certain people is the day you read my 5 day old obituary.

Clearly you are put off by my prose style. I have come to like it. On the charge, you are incorrect. I don't know of anyone here whose approval or validation I am seeking. Instead, I look for interesting, challenging people.

I have a very full life, have taken on an unusually wide array of professional challenges, and am still actively employed in running an Engineering Business. I have worked out hard and regularly all my life, and it has enhanced my health and serenity. I have a wife and two daughters whom I love dearly, but who don't hesitate to point out all my bad habits and chronic deficiencies ( It is easier to get love from a woman than approval) . Their endurance amazes me ( though I suspect my wife enjoys the sport) . My sons know better than to try too much.

The last times I recall really needing validation and acceptability were when I was about to make my first night carrier landing; my first flight in combat; and my first day on the job as President of a consulting company, after the new owners( my employer) appointed me to relieve the guy who came with the acquisition, and whom they summarily fired, giving me me six months to fix it. In each case I learned the only reliable source is from within ones self, and in taking ownership of the failures that come along. Love from within my family provides the sustaining need.

I come to A2k for the give and take with folks whom I basically like, but disagree with frequently (Blatham is an example, as are Oliver, Hightor , Walter H, and a few others. You were briefly , but your sudden reversals and persistent anger became too distracting). Others I merely ignore. Occasionally I learn something new or get a new slant on an old issue. That's a plus.

For the rest, I haven't claimed that all the facts are on the table - but many including ones relating to both Clinton and Trump are. The Mueller investigation is winding down and so far nothing involving Trump has yet emerged. I did express the opinion that there will likely be little more. Perhaps you disagree. tant pis.
Setanta
 
  2  
Mon 18 Feb, 2019 12:30 am
@georgeob1,
Here we get to that aspect of conservative haughtiness and self-delusion which just cracks me up. The Mueller investigation was launched by a Republican-controlled Congress, which selected a life-long and highly respected Republican to lead the investigation. If Mrs. Clinton had in fact colluded in the violation of laws and herself had violated the law, why did that Republican-controlled Congress not investigate her? They had literally years to launch such an investigation, having taken control of the Congress while Mr. Obama was still in office. Not only is your claim unconvincing, it looks very much like a bootless claim. I suggest they have no case, and have long known it.

Why don't you pull an Oralloy on us and tell us about a Democratic witch-hunt?
coldjoint
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 12:58 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
The Mueller investigation was launched by a Republican-controlled Congress,

It was launched by the uniparty. All establishment politicians that did not want Trump to be president. The party did not matter for those who wanted Trump gone. Everything has changed and you are lagging behind.

Also the Russian investigation is a failure, they do not seem to be able to manufacture a crime. The report will just leave unanswered questions that Democrats say prove something when they prove nothing.
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RABEL222
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 01:09 am
Unproven allegations one after another repeated on and on. Hopefully when the Mueller investigation is over we can hit you with facts. Which you will reject as false news.
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gungasnake
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 02:19 am
What happened to John Kennedy:

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glitterbag
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 02:24 am
@georgeob1,
I'm not angry George, I just find you pedantic, unnecessary verbose..... ergo exasperating. But I am happy to hear you're satisfied with your life, good for you.
izzythepush
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 03:25 am
@glitterbag,
Lot's of money to be made from suffering and misery.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 03:39 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

Earlier today, I saw where one of the members discovered the word 'inbred'. Suddenly, its flung around as a condemnation of entire populations, with absolutely not a drop of truth.


Certain posters are projecting, this is inbreeding.

https://i.redd.it/wr80zlkofsny.jpg

Only the very stupid and bigoted believe the nonsense Gungasnake spouts. His bullshit about Somali IQ is a case in point.

Quote:
After a quarter-century of costly foreign intervention, Somalia is still Africa’s most-failed state.

At no point since 1991, when the despot Siad Barre was overthrown by rebels, have Somalis had a government worthy of the name. Officials from Mogadishu cannot safely visit much of the country, let alone govern it (even excluding Somaliland, a region in the north that has been de facto independent since 1991). War, famine and terrorism have prompted legions of Somalis to flee. A sixth of them—2m out of a population of perhaps 12m—now live abroad. For those who remain, life expectancy is just 55 years, and barely a third can read.


https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2016/09/10/most-failed-state

Officials can't visit, but Gunga's Nazi buddies can conduct IQ tests on the population and define an average IQ. It's nonsense, and it would be laughable if the fascist idiots didn't believe this horseshit and spread it everywhere.
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hightor
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 04:48 am
And, as any alert A2K member will know, this is well underway:

Republicans Already Are Demonizing Democrats as Socialists and Baby Killers

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In the 116th Congress, if you’re a Democrat, you’re either a socialist, a baby killer or an anti-Semite.

That, at least, is what Republicans want voters to think, as they seek to demonize Democrats well in advance of the 2020 elections by painting them as left-wing crazies who will destroy the American economy, murder newborn babies and turn a blind eye to bigotry against Jews.

The unusually aggressive assault, which Republican officials and strategists outlined in interviews last week, is meant to strangle the new Democratic majority in its infancy. It was set in motion this month by President Trump, who used his State of the Union address to rail against “new calls to adopt socialism in our country” and mischaracterize legislation backed by Democrats in New York and Virginia as allowing “a baby to be ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth.”

Then last week, Republicans amped it up, seizing on a Twitter post by a freshman representative, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, which even some Democrats condemned as anti-Semitic, and ridiculing the “Green New Deal,” an ambitious economic stimulus plan unveiled by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a self-described democratic socialist. Suddenly even Jewish Democrats were abetting anti-Semitism and moderate Democrats in Republican districts were Trotskyites and Stalinists.

“Socialism is the greatest vulnerability by far that the House Democrats have,” Representative Tom Emmer of Minnesota, the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said in an interview, adding that he had also instructed his team to spotlight “all the extreme wild ideas” that Democrats espouse, “on a daily basis, on an hourly basis if it’s available.”

House Republicans have identified 55 Democrats they regard as vulnerable, including many freshmen. Some flipped Republican seats last year, some represent districts carried by Mr. Trump in 2016, and some are in districts held by Republicans until recently. Bruised by their losses last year, Republicans are determined to start earlier and be more aggressive on the offense in 2020, and are hoping to exploit the Democratic presidential candidates’ courtship of the left.

An advertising offensive is already underway. The Congressional Leadership Fund, a political action committee affiliated with House Republican leaders, began running digital ads last week that link two freshmen who flipped Republican districts, Representatives Colin Allred of Texas and Antonio Delgado of New York, to Ms. Ocasio-Cortez and her “radical Green New Deal assault on the American economy.”

The spots are the first in what will be a national campaign, according to Zach Hunter, a spokesman for the fund. The stark ads, featuring stern-looking images of Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, offer a preview of how Republicans intend to vilify her in much the same way they have vilified Speaker Nancy Pelosi, caricaturing her as a radical from San Francisco.

Democrats see an insidious effort to use women and minorities, especially women of color, as the new symbols of the radical “other.” And they are calling out Republicans as hypocrites, noting that Mr. Trump and other Republicans trafficked in anti-Semitic tropes and racist dog whistles long before anyone noticed Ms. Omar’s Twitter feed.

“I guess they used that argument to its end, and so they have to find someone new,” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said in a brief interview. “And who else to use except folks like myself and other freshmen congresswomen? We’re least like them in every way possible, so I think it’s a potent symbol.”

But Republicans like Mr. Emmer say they are simply repeating Democrats’ own words, and they have been aided by Democratic stumbles. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s team published an early draft of the Green New Deal — which has been backed by several top-tier Democratic presidential candidates — that contained phrases those candidates did not endorse, including a call for economic security for “all who are unable or unwilling to work.” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez deleted the draft from her website, but Republicans took it and ran.

Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the chairwoman of the House Republican Conference, called the plan — endorsed by 70 Democrats in the House and about a dozen in the Senate — “a fantasy” and insisted the erroneous draft be placed in the Congressional Record. Sean Hannity, the Fox News commentator, called it “a form of insanity.” The Republican National Committee issued a briefing paper headlined “The Democrats’ Burgeoning Love Affair With Socialism.”

In the Senate, where five Democrats are already running for president, Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, announced he would force a vote on the measure, drawing howls from Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, who slammed the move as a “cynical stunt” intended solely to put Democrats, including the presidential candidates, on the spot. A vote in favor of the Green New Deal could help them court progressives in the primary vote, but hurt in a general election.

“Democrats have handed Republicans this messaging on a silver platter,” said Andy Surabian, a Republican strategist and former Trump White House official, adding that he believed socialism and Democrats’ stance on abortion were more powerful lines of attack than anti-Semitism. “All these controversies dovetail perfectly with the president’s messaging at the State of the Union.”

Democrats dismissed the messaging as par for the course.

“We are not going to abandon socialist policies like Social Security — or is that ‘socialist security,’ is that what they call it?” Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, said wryly. “The bottom line is the president is in campaign mode — maybe he’s always in campaign mode — and I just expect a lot of this to be thrown over the transom.”

Democrats say they intend to counter the offensive by talking about the issues they ran and won on: reducing health care costs and prescription drug prices, passing an infrastructure package and rooting out corruption in Washington.

“We have an agenda to help families, and we have ideas,” said Representative Cheri Bustos of Illinois, the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who is among those being targeted. “Washington Republicans are set back now, and all they’re playing on is exaggerations and fear.”

But Democrats must be careful not to let those exaggerations take hold. They are well aware that their path to keeping the majority runs through districts like Ms. Bustos’s, which the president carried in 2016.

“Of course I can see them trying to drive a wedge between the people in our districts, the people who are in more moderate districts,” said Representative Josh Gottheimer, a centrist Democrat from New Jersey and a chairman of the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus. “That’s why it’s really important that we make sure that we govern from the middle.”

The hardball tactics have been especially evident in the Republican response to Ms. Omar’s tweet last week, and to the legislation adopted in New York, and proposed in Virginia, to loosen restrictions on abortions in the third trimester of pregnancy under certain conditions.

Before he became embroiled in a controversy over blackface, Gov. Ralph Northam of Virginia, a Democrat, gave Republicans an opening last month when he said during a radio interview about the bill that “a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother” in the case of an infant born with severe deformities.

Mr. Northam’s office later said he was discussing medical treatment, not abortion, but Republicans, including Mr. Trump, accused him of promoting infanticide. House Republican leaders began gathering signatures to force a vote on legislation requiring doctors to provide care “when a child is born alive following an abortion or attempted abortion.”

The National Republican Congressional Committee, meanwhile, began filling reporters’ inboxes with attacks targeted at centrist freshmen, with subject lines like “So we’re murdering newborns now?” and “Abortion extremists come to New Mexico,” referring to Representative Xochitl Torres Small.

The committee has spent weeks lobbing charges of anti-Semitism at Ms. Omar and another freshman Democrat, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, both fierce critics of Israel. But after Democratic leaders forced Ms. Omar to apologize for insinuating on Twitter that American policy toward Israel was fueled by money, the committee expanded its campaign, suggesting that other Democrats — including Representative Elaine Luria of Virginia, who is Jewish — were somehow abetting an anti-Semite.

Ms. Luria, a freshman and Navy veteran, led the effort to push the Democratic leadership to speak out about Ms. Omar’s tweet. Yet under an email with the subject line “Be a leader, Elaine,” the committee pressed Ms. Luria to demand Ms. Omar’s removal from the House Foreign Affairs Committee “instead of letting the anti-Semite spew hate without any repercussions.”

Ms. Luria and her team were incensed. “Congresswoman Luria served for 20 years in the United States Navy, and, as a Jewish woman in America, she will not be lectured by Washington Republicans about anti-Semitism,” Ms. Luria’s chief of staff, Kathryn Sorenson, said in an email.

Mr. Emmer defended the statement, saying the committee was not “going after” Ms. Luria but rather “criticizing her and some others for not calling for their colleagues’ removal from the Foreign Affairs Committee.” He said Democrats could expect more of the same in 2020, adding, “This is all about compare and contrast.”

nyt

Yeah, we all remember those Democrats with the tiki tiorches chanting "Jews will not replace us."

Hold on to your hats.
farmerman
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 05:09 am
@hightor,
I was listening to a CBC program yesterday and it was a kinda funny discussion about how younger voters have a limited knowledge and therefore no real fear of the old geezer shout- out of "socialism" as a pejorative.
blatham
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 05:27 am
@hightor,
Yes. And it is going to get much uglier, almost certainly the most ugly election of my 70 years. With Trump as exemplar what else might one expect.
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blatham
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 05:34 am
@farmerman,
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therefore no real fear of the old geezer shout- out of "socialism" as a pejorative.
Yes, that will be quite outside their experience other than for the odd few who dig into the history of the cold war. Or, I suppose, those who have grown up in an environment such as, oh I don't know, such as georgeob's or Betty DeVos' household.

The same is true as regards this generation's deficit in knowledge of the history of the union movement, sadly.
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blatham
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 05:44 am
I'm sure the Trump crowd had nothing to do with this. They are exceptionally honest people with a level of integrity rarely seen in human affairs.
Quote:
Japanese Primer Minister Shinzō Abe nominated President Donald Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize after the U.S. government “informally” requested the nomination, the Asahi newspaper reported Sunday.

Citing unnamed Japanese government sources, the United States’ request for a Peace Prize nomination came after Trump met with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore in June of last year.

Abe, in the paper’s words, was “acceding to a request from Washington” with the nomination.
TPM

For some reason, this health report on the president comes to mind...
Quote:
Later Tuesday, Bornstein told CNN that Trump had personally dictated the 2015 letter the doctor released on the then-candidate's behalf, praising him in hyperbolic and florid language.

"He dictated that whole letter. I didn't write that letter," Bornstein said. "I just made it up as I went along."

The letter did sound Trumpian, describing Trump's blood pressure and laboratory results as "astonishingly excellent," his physical strength and stamina as "extraordinary," and concluding that he would be "the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency."

The White House denied several requests for comment on whether Trump had directed Bornstein on what to write.
LINK
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blatham
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 05:47 am
More surprisements!
Quote:
Former ME Gov. LePage, Staff Spent $22,000 In Taxpayer Dollars At Trump’s D.C. Hotel
TPM
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oralloy
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 05:51 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
The Mueller investigation was launched by a Republican-controlled Congress, which selected a life-long and highly respected Republican to lead the investigation.
That is incorrect. Independent Council investigations are launched by the Justice Department.

And in this case the Justice Department launched the investigation under malicious pressure from Democratic politicians.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 05:58 am
@hightor,
New York Times wrote:
In the 116th Congress, if you’re a Democrat, you’re either a socialist, a baby killer or an anti-Semite.
That is a fair characterization.

I don't get into the abortion debate much, but pro-lifers do see abortion as killing babies.

The neonazi wing of the Democratic Party is appalling.

And the "Green New Deal" is Leninist to the core.

hightor wrote:
Yeah, we all remember those Democrats with the tiki tiorches chanting "Jews will not replace us."
Shame on you for mischaracterizing what those marchers were chanting.
hightor
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 07:24 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Shame on you for mischaracterizing what those marchers were chanting.

Did the Jewish World Congress "mischaracterize" the marchers' chants?

You might want to have your bloated IQ checked out, the genius thing doesn't seem to be working that well.
gungasnake
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 07:55 am
Paganism (i.e. what happens to a child who gets aborted one day prior to being born.....):


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/19/planned-parenthood-kept-aborted-babies-alive-to-ha/?fbclid=IwAR0w-Y61GMaPQ1DwErRxxa8YZq8hlvwGn5LOkW5p7vBZsLwTZMMfABfxc0c
gungasnake
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 08:01 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
...lotsa money in suffering and misery...


I believe abortion should remain legal at least in some cases. But Planned Butcherhood is way past that point and needs to be shut down.
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