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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 11:42 am
@Setanta,
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a perfect example of the perversion and deliberate employment of religious fanaticism for the ends of political power seekers.

Here are some more examples
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/TROP.jpg?4712
Stop worrying about Christians you hypocritical loser.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 11:59 am
@coldjoint,
-3.The sock puppets are up early. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Olivier5
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 12:01 pm
@InfraBlue,
Good point. The Septuagint seems to have been taken as a proto Jewish canon circa 1st or 2nd century BC. It differs however from the present Jewish cannon in several ways eg in the book of Daniel. It's probably what Oral had in mind when he wrote:

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IMO Greek is the proper source for a Christian Old Testament.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 12:15 pm
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Islamic scholar says fighting Jews in Israel is a religious mandate

I have been saying the invention of the Palestinian people is only a cover for a 1400 year hate. Looks like this "scholar" agrees.
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The interview, which was aired on February 3rd and posted on YouTube with English translation by Middle East Media Research Institute earlier this week, shows Al-Farra telling the interviewee that, “When the time Allah gave runs out, fighting them will become mandatory” - and that time is now.
“This applies to plundering the Jews who drove out our fathers and forefathers," he said. “Kill the polytheists wherever you may find them.”


He said that according to religious ruling, all of Israel is “a battlefield between us and the Jews. Therefore, we must strive to fight them, using any means that might enable us to get to them anywhere in our pure land.”

Remember there is only one Islamic scholar that counts and that is Muhammad. This scholar agrees with him. Any Islamic scholar that does not is simply wrong about Islam and its agenda. That goes for any politician also.
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Islamic-scholar-says-fighting-Jews-in-Israel-is-a-religious-mandate-580748

gungasnake
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 12:35 pm
@coldjoint,
Again, the good news about I-slam and slammism is that they cannot hope to survive the Internet age. They can't keep all that stupid **** hidden any more.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 12:50 pm
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Shall We Defend Our Common History?

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Welcome to the new Orwellian world where censorship is free speech and we respect the past by attempting to elide it.

Long read but this guy nails it.
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Someone might ask, “Who cares what violence a super-rich bastion of privilege and unaccountability like Yale perpetrates on its patrimony?” Well, we should all care. Institutions like Yale, Harvard, and Stanford are among the chief drivers of the “progressive” hostility to free expression and other politically correct attitudes that have insinuated themselves like a fever-causing virus into the bloodstream of public life. Instead of helping to preserve our common inheritance, they work to subvert it.

Spiriting away stonework in the Ivy League may seem mostly comical. But there is a straight line from those acts of morally righteous intolerance to far less comical examples of puritanical censure.

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/shall-defend-common-history/
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 12:54 pm
@gungasnake,
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Again, the good news about I-slam

There is no good news in Islam. Censorship on the internet is enabling Islam. Twitter just banned an ex-Muslim calling himself the "apostate prophet". And ex-Muslims are being banned on Facebook. Do you think an ex-Christian would be banned for criticizing Christianity? I don't.
InfraBlue
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 01:04 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Good point. The Septuagint seems to have been taken as a proto Jewish canon circa 1st or 2nd century BC. It differs however from the present Jewish cannon in several ways eg in the book of Daniel. It's probably what Oral had in mind when he wrote:

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IMO Greek is the proper source for a Christian Old Testament.


Ironically, most Protestant translations of the Old Testament portion of the Bible, e.g. the King James, are based on the Jewish cannon, the Masoretic Text.
Olivier5
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 01:32 pm
@InfraBlue,
Yes, by and large. I suppose there was a certain defiance towards the catholic vulgate.

Ironically the vulgate has in some places a more accurate rendering of the Hebrew text that the King James version. Eg the interpretation of "Lucifer" in Isaiah as a name for the Devil is a translation error stemming from King James (and earlier middle age versions). The Hebrew and its latin rendering "lucifer" just mean "the light bearer", a paraphrase for the morning star / planet Venus.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 01:43 pm
@Olivier5,
Luther used the Hebrew texts a lot. However, he and his fellow translators often despaired for lack of language skills. (Even at universities Hebrew was hardly taught.)
Olivier5
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 02:22 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Even at universities Hebrew was hardly taugh

Yes, these were early days for Hebrew scholarship in Europe. The first Jewish grammar in latin was printed in Venice in 1501 by the humanist-inclined Aldine press (the inventor of the italic fonts). It was very short and superficial.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 02:32 pm
@Olivier5,
Luther used the grammar by Wolfgang Capito (Institutiuncula in Hebraeam), printed together with the psalter in Hebrew by Konrad Pellikan in November 1516 in Basel.
Olivier5
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 02:57 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Thanks, didn't know about these guys. Will look them up.
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gungasnake
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 04:48 pm
The biggest mistranslation in most flavors of the Bible is probably Genesis 11:1 which is usually presented as:

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11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.


as if the entire world had been using one spoken language which would not have been horribly different from present spoken languages.

The passage reads the same way in pretty nearly all Bible of all nations because scholars living in post deluge times have invariably translated it into something which seemed to make sense to them, ignoring what the original language actually meant:

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The whole Earth was of one language, few words.


At least few spoken words, which were "words of power" used for ritualistic purposes. Human communication prior to the fall of the tower did not involve spoken speech.



farmerman
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 05:18 pm
@gungasnake,
so you rEally accept a orldwide FLOOD? or are you just limiting your references to folks around the Black Sea?

Noah coulldnt find any Kangaroos then, or wombats .

got you a real fact problem there.
gungasnake
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 05:38 pm
@farmerman,
The Bible was written by descendants of Noah who'd plainly never been to Australia. Most surviving animals owe their existence to Noah, but not all. The literatures of other ancient nations describe handfuls of humans and animal surviving here and there on mountains and anything that could float for most of a year and the Australian animals almost certainly survived in or around Australia.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 06:04 pm
@farmerman,
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so you rEally accept a orldwide FLOOD?

Almost every early culture talks about it. Why not believe it? Was it the first Russian conspiracy?
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gungasnake
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 06:09 pm
There obviously isn't any trail of marsupial bones between the Caucasus and Southern India....
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gungasnake
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 06:12 pm
@coldjoint,
FB, Twitter, and Youtube cannot rule the internet forever. I-slam cannot survive the Internet age.
gungasnake
 
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Sat 16 Feb, 2019 06:56 pm
The immediate cause of the flood was a dwarf star flare event (Isaiah 30:26). Physical events have physical causes...
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