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oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:25 am
My IQ is 170. Are you still too embarrassed to state yours?

This is a reply to name-calling, if the post that I'm replying to is deleted and latecomers wonder why I posted this.
georgeob1
 
  -1  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:25 am
@coldjoint,
Well the nuns told us that we really couldn't trust those WASPs, but that we should forgive them anyway.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:27 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
I didn't consider the report about a FOX-poll to be racist. Sorry.

Any report that throws in a color is racist whether you think so or not. Naming any race makes it so. Sorry.
georgeob1
 
  -2  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:29 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Indeed Germans were the largest single European group among immigrants to the U.S. --- even more than the Irish (if you omit the Scots Irish). However we knew that we were the best. The nuns told us that too.

We were also encouraged to marry Germans, on the presumption that it would stabilize the gene pool -- definitely not Italians -- far too much of the same thing.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:31 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Well the nuns told us that we really couldn't trust those WASPs,

That is better than not forgiving them.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:34 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
My IQ is 170. Are you still too embarrassed to state yours?

Just drop the zero off of yours and you have your answer. 17, and that is generous considering who it is.
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hightor
 
  4  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:36 am
@georgeob1,
If I've said anything which smacks of " finely made distinctions used to justify weak arguments" I apologize. If you believe I've made "contradictory stands on [abortion or eugenics] in efforts to discredit other posters", feel free to point my bad faith efforts out to me.. For years I would simply refuse to discuss the topic of abortion on web forums, but I got tired of seeing all the distortions and half-truths being trotted out, most of them lifted directly from right-wing blogs which form much of the SSM these days.

As one of those issues that really cannot be settled by facts and instead is fed by emotions and feelings I don't think it lends itself to pro and con arguments in this sort of venue. I do feel pretty certain, however, that Sanger was not a "racist" and that the right's efforts to paint her as one are disingenuous and smack more of the common political practice of finding divisive "wedge issues" than really stating the truth. I do feel that people are simply ignoring the good relationships she had with black leaders and digging up old statements which, when taken out of context, appear problematic because of the archaic writing style.

What I really want to know is whether Sanger ever wore blackface.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:45 am
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZeKEjDEzugM/XGVIeRqrf6I/AAAAAAABN1s/aHLwAjFQf4QaRH77YEKtIeUFTPX1lpHZwCLcBGAs/s640/detroit.png
Where is the WP? This is not worse than Christians voting for Trump? Apparently not. Hate for Jews is now socially acceptable or at least the omission of stories like this support that fact.
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2019/02/detroit-imam-says-jews-prostitute-their.html
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georgeob1
 
  0  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:46 am
@hightor,
Thank you. No apology is necessary. We're all - myself included - guilty of occasional excesses here, and you appear to me to be unusually straightforward, and free of excessive prejudgments and unwarranted criticisms of others. My criticism of your post was just that of ignoring a few key and meaningful phrases that Ms. Sanger actually wrote . As with many in that era, she favored some form of eugenics. In my view it matters little whether that is accomplished through contraception or abortion, though there are indeed meaningful moral distinctions between the two.

I did not have you in mind in my references to merely discrediting those you disagree with.
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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:52 am
@hightor,
The Neely video is wonderful. That's a history I knew nothing of at all. Thanks, man.
hightor
 
  3  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:53 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Any report that throws in a color is racist whether you think so or not.

I've pointed this out for years. If you distinguish between different people because of their "race" then you're a "racist". If you hate other people because of their race then you're a "racist". I like to use the tern "racialist" to name the first type of racial discrimination, because there are times when it's useful or germane to a particular topic. White protestants (evangelicals) form one of the largest groups of Trump supporters so the poll does tell us something, and backs it up with research. But it doesn't try to suggest that white protestants are inferior or a threat to our way of life. I'd love to see racial categories assume less importance but we seem to have a fixation on this stuff — look at Elizabeth Warren.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:56 am
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51872876_2369101749787829_6704361876525940736_n.png?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=f93dd3873d5850217b43859c47a6ab22&oe=5CF7916A
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hightor
 
  1  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:56 am
@blatham,
I've really learned a lot from his videos. Glad you enjoyed it. And learned something!
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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Nearly half of Republicans think God wanted Trump to be president and more than half of white evangelical Protestants agree.
Mankind is doomed. Forest creatures cheer.
blatham
 
  1  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 12:03 pm
@tsarstepan,
Wow.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 12:05 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
I'd love to see racial categories assume less importance but we seem to have a fixation on this stuff

You had better write the DNC and let progressives know that too. Do not forget the MSM.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 12:07 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Mankind is doomed.

Thank you for your contribution to that doom.
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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 12:10 pm
@georgeob1,
I had a horrible night. Horrible. Disconcerting dreams. More than disconcerting. I woke about 2 AM, went to the bathroom, looked in the mirror and saw... you.

My family found me later on the bathroom floor, weeping.
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hightor
 
  2  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 12:12 pm
Amazon backs out of the Long Island City deal.

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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 14 Feb, 2019 12:14 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
What I really want to know is whether Sanger ever wore blackface.
As one of the smart dudes at Pod Save America asked rhetorically, "Doesn't anyone in Virginia put polish on their shoes?"
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