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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

They did the crime, they do the time, that's the way the justice system works. No innocence involved.

Scooter Libby never committed any crimes. Neither did that lawyer guy for Trump.

You are "exhibit A" in the case for outlawing Atheism and forcing people to have a religious upbringing.

No one who ever thought they'd have to answer to God would dare to justify maliciously convicting innocent people of imaginary crimes.

And yes, I still realize that would take a constitutional amendment. It's time we did it.

MontereyJack wrote:

Mueller got them dead to rights.

The only thing Mueller has managed to prove so far are "jaywalking and littering" caliber offenses.

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Wherein DT and his associates try to do something for the American people and one of them gets beaten to death for it....

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trumps-drug-pricing-czar-found-with-multiple-blunt-force-injuries-ruled-suicide_2718723.html?fbclid=IwAR2KOaa_A0I_SUB5b4nLaXvf6HXIiDCs_weKlBcFTqwy4SSsFw8Ui6i0QnM

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@oralloy,

Which religion would you force people to observe? Perhaps it's your religion?? You have stated you think we should have re-education camps, must outlaw the Democrat party, and now you think you can pick the right 'religion' for this entire nation?

Do you still trade Pokemon cards? I think I understand your desire to dominate others, but the issues you are promoting are more like to make you the one dominated. It's incredibly restrictive and so terribly anti-American....

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

Which religion would you force people to observe?

I have no preference. Let people choose for themselves so long as they don't choose Atheism.

glitterbag wrote:

Do you still trade Pokemon cards?

What is a Pokemon card?

I don't recall ever trading anything by that name.

glitterbag wrote:

I think I understand your desire to dominate others, but the issues you are promoting are more like to make you the one dominated.

I have no desire for domination or power. What a waste of time and energy that would be. I merely propose that dangerous people be prevented from harming innocents.

The only people who I've ever heard advocate in favor of atrocities are Atheists. Clearly when people don't think they'll have to explain themselves to God one day, some of them embrace all sorts of horrors.

We can rid ourselves of this menace simply by getting rid of Atheism.

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@oralloy,

Oh dear, you are so naive. There is no organized effort by atheists to savage anyone (that would be the actions of all of the organized Christian religions) and several other world religions...Atheists have no organization or inclination.

You and I both know you have a bucket load of Pokemon cards and maybe you are no longer involved with a dungeon and dragon group...you either belonged or wanted to belong.

Forcing someone to worship something is authoritarian. Most of the early settlers came here to escape religious persecution...you really want to bring that back. That was Stalin, Mao Ze Tung, Jim Jones, Waco, Heaven's Gate. Persecuting people for non-religious adherence is the same sort of tyranny. I don't think you are actually capable of dominating anyone, what I really think I don't care to share.

Get away from the computer and wikipedia every once in a while and visit the library. Pick up some non-fiction (history) and avoid the sci-fro and ray Bradbury stuff.......There's a whole wide world out there. Stick your toe in.

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

Oh dear, you are so naive. There is no organized effort by atheists to savage anyone

I never said there was.

glitterbag wrote:

Atheists have no organization or inclination.

Wrong. Some of them clearly have the inclination.

glitterbag wrote:

You and I both know you have a bucket load of Pokemon cards

Sorry. You're babbling nonsense.

glitterbag wrote:

and maybe you are no longer involved with a dungeon and dragon group...you either belonged or wanted to belong.

I've played D&D before. I always found it a bit boring.

glitterbag wrote:

Forcing someone to worship something is authoritarian.

Good enough. Let's amend the Constitution and get it done.

glitterbag wrote:

Most of the early settlers came here to escape religious persecution...you really want to bring that back.

Whatever it takes to rid the world of Atheist monsters.

glitterbag wrote:

I don't think you are actually capable of dominating anyone, what I really think I don't care to share.

Meh. I addressed your domination gibberish in my previous post.

glitterbag wrote:

There's a whole wide world out there. Stick your toe in.

I'm aware of the world. That's why I propose outlawing Atheism. Let's make the world a better place.

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I don't know if you are responding to me, if you are please understand it's late, I've raised children, I've supervised young and older military personnel, I've been well compensated for managing and training others to become good linguists, good analysts, and how to question conventional wisdom. I've also helped people thru crisis, helped with family emergencies, loaned money when necessary (according to me), Ive helped others on a career path...and this was just professionally, and it was done because I'm so grateful to the few folks who believed in and supported me. Those people made my life so much more interesting and I truly hope I was able in some small way to help the others who were in my charge.

I've raised children, nephews..... my husband and I cared for both my parents and his mother as they became frail. I don't regret any of it. We've had illnesses, hardships, and all the other things that occur in a lifetime..but we've managed.

Ultimately, we've had a better life than we thought we could have when we were just youngens. I'm beating around the shrubbery just a tad to explain that I'm not really all that interested in devoting a great deal of time 'justifying' anything to anyone...why should I? ..I might groan every once in a while over some inane utterance and every so often I groan outloud. Please don't think I plan to debate nonsense as others fling additional nonsense and semi-!^&%@#$t garbage as if they actually are making a point that should be challenged. I don't plan on having Pee Wee Herman dustups with anyone.

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How not to do infrastructure projects....

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Donald Trump's former election campaign chief Paul Manafort breached his plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller by lying to prosecutors, a US judge says.

US District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled that Manafort "made multiple false statements" to the FBI, Mr Mueller's office and a grand jury.

Mr Mueller leads a probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 US election.

Manafort has pleaded guilty to some charges, avoiding a separate trial.

He was convicted of financial fraud in August, relating to his work as a political consultant in Ukraine.

He then accepted a plea deal on other charges in return for co-operating with Mr Mueller's investigation.

In her ruling on Wednesday, Judge Berman Jackson said there was evidence that showed Manafort had lied about three different topics, including his contacts with Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian political consultant. Prosecutors claim Mr Kilimnik had ties to Russian intelligence.

However, the judge cleared Manafort, 69, of allegations that he lied on two other subjects.

The verdict means that Manafort - who has been held in a detention centre in Virginia since June - could now potentially face harsher sentences or have charges against him re-filed.

Last year, Mr Mueller said that Manafort lied "on a variety of subject matters" after signing the plea deal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47234491

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@oralloy,

You can't force anyone to believe in anything. Forced conversations only lead to fake religion. You have little faith yourself, if you think god(s) need the help of the US judiciary.

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@oralloy,

Quote:

Let people choose for themselves so long as they don't choose Atheism.

Would the spaghetti monster qualify?

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@coldjoint,

Look, this statement is taken out of context. This is what I mean when I say you can't show anything to back up your assertion that hasn't been framed in a particular way or completely made up.

When Sanger was working in the black community she was sensitive to possible charges of racism and wanted the help of black clergymen and community leaders to explain family planning so that it didn't look like there was any intent to "exterminate the Negro population." She didn't want that word to go out because it wasn't true.

What if Trump decided that he wanted all the children of illegal immigrants vaccinated? And what if the immigrants and refugees began hearing stories about these vaccinations being dangerous to their kids? So Trump gets in touch with some conservative Hispanic leaders, "I'd like you to go out and explain vaccination to the immigrant community so that we get maximum participation. I don't want the word going out that the USA is trying to make their children sick."

Think.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

Would the spaghetti monster qualify?

I'm looking for something that will make people worry about facing divine judgement when they die -- so that they will be less eager to commit atrocities.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

You can't force anyone to believe in anything. Forced conversations only lead to fake religion. You have little faith yourself, if you think god(s) need the help of the US judiciary.

We could require children to be raised with religious indoctrination. I bet it would result in markedly fewer Atheist monsters committing atrocities.

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@oralloy,

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We could require children to be raised with religious indoctrination.

Says the self-styled defender of the US Constitution.

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@hightor,

Teaching people to fear God's judgement is a good way of preventing them from committing atrocities. There are just too many Atheist monsters out there.

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@oralloy,

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Clearly when people don't think they'll have to explain themselves to God one day, some of them embrace all sorts of horrors.

This is pretty silly. Religious people can commit atrocities secure with the knowledge that they can come clean on their deathbed and be welcomed into heaven.

You know what's more effective? It's something called your "conscience". It does a great job of standing in for a fictional deity.

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@oralloy,

You must be trolling us... You can't be serious.

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@Olivier5,

I'm always serious. You should know that by now.

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@oralloy,

So Jesus is not your guy. Not enough normative, preaching love and all that. But the spaghetti monster is quite scary. I'm sure if American children could be endoctrinated to believe in the monster, they would behave.

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