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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
georgeob1
 
  1  
Sun 20 Jan, 2019 05:48 pm
@Setanta,
Do you really know that?
Setanta
 
  0  
Sun 20 Jan, 2019 05:51 pm
We discussed it about 15 years ago--yes, I know it.

She hates the Clintons. She started a thread on that topic more than 15 years ago. When Sanders ran against Clinton, she jumped on the Sanders bandwagon, but not to tout his agenda, but just to attack Clinton. Additionally, as has been pointed out here, her sources are conservative, on-line rags.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 20 Jan, 2019 06:05 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
She's a conservative operative,

Is she salaried or paid by the hour? Drunk
Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 20 Jan, 2019 06:11 pm
@coldjoint,
I’d like to see those checks.
Lash
 
  0  
Sun 20 Jan, 2019 06:14 pm
@blatham,
You’re laughable.

Thousands of Democrats who were actual liberals exited the Dem party and called it #DemExit. What rock have you been hiding under for the last two years?

But, then, you know all this.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 20 Jan, 2019 07:00 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
I’d like to see those checks.

And I was just going to ask about cash under the table.
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blatham
 
  0  
Sun 20 Jan, 2019 07:59 pm
Jamelle Bouie writes
Quote:
b-boy bouiebaisse
‏Verified account
@jbouie
It is so strange to me that much of the press is framing the shutdown as a stand off between two sides who need to compromise when only one of those sides is actually demanding anything and the other has already voted to reopen the government with no strings attached.
9:28 AM - 20 Jan 2019


Jay Rosen replies J
Quote:
ay Rosen
‏Verified account
jayrosen_nyu
My explanation: Alongside the production of news and analysis, journalists in the major media are constantly engaged in another manufacture: the production of their own innocence. They have to continually prove they are being even-handed. The shutdown is an opportunity for that.
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blatham
 
  0  
Sun 20 Jan, 2019 08:04 pm
Winner of today's Well what the **** would he know about it?! award

Quote:
John Harwood
‏verified account
@JohnJHarwood
Will Hurd’s Texas district alone spans 42% of the entire US-Mexico border

Hurd is a former CIA agent

He is a Republican

He opposes the wall
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sun 20 Jan, 2019 09:21 pm
@blatham,
What is this twitter crap? Opinions are really not events, but I digress.
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 20 Jan, 2019 10:16 pm
Clear skies here which is a freaking miracle. Moon now about 50%. I am surprised by how beautiful I find this. When I thought of an eclipse, I thought in two dimensions. This is better.
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Builder
 
  -3  
Mon 21 Jan, 2019 12:27 am
@Lash,
Quote:
What rock have you been hiding under for the last two years?


The level of denial amongst the diehard Clintonistas here is astounding.

Convinced by a complicit media, they were already celebrating long before the ass-kicking.

Knowing the aftermath is un-directed, and off-the-cuff, is what keeps the interest levels high.
Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 21 Jan, 2019 12:29 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Do you really know that?


He's on a payroll. Got cue cards, for those "senior" moments.
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glitterbag
 
  2  
Mon 21 Jan, 2019 12:36 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:


The level of denial amongst the diehard Clintonistas here is astounding.



When you say here, do you mean here in Australia? Why would Americans give a big god damn about your concerns about our politics? I know you are in a different time zone, but have you heard that Hillary won the popular vote but lost the gerrymandered electoral vote?
Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 21 Jan, 2019 12:43 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
When you say here, do you mean here in Australia?


Comprehension never was your strong point.

The rest of your post reinforces that understanding for us.
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Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 21 Jan, 2019 12:55 am
It's indicative of an admission of defeat, that the HRC cheer squad here is falling back on the very fkn lame excuse of blaming the same political system that handed Obama two terms, but couldn't possibly grant the wishes of a brainwashed nation, the result the press told them was already a done deal.

Magazine covers printed and drying.

We don't seem to forget that sort of drubbing.

You folk are having a hard time moving on. It's been two years today.

Pelosi has worn out her welcome.

Just what do you have to offer in the ranks of the DNC?
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Mon 21 Jan, 2019 02:22 am
Opinion piece on Trump's place in History. It's not good, more at link.

Quote:
Hostile historians may come to regard Donald Trump's presidency as an aggregation of the lesser traits of his predecessors.

The bullying of Lyndon Baines Johnson, who demeaned White House aides and even humiliated his Vice-President Hubert Humphrey - forcing his deputy once to recite a speech on Vietnam while he listened, legs akimbo, trousers round his ankles, on the toilet.

The intellectual incuriosity of Ronald Reagan, who once apologised to his then White House Chief of Staff James Baker for not reading his briefing books with the immortal excuse: "Well, Jim, The Sound of Music was on last night."

The shameless lies of Bill Clinton about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

The paranoia of Richard Nixon, who in his final days railed, King Lear-like, at portraits hanging on the White House walls.

The incompetence of George W Bush, whose failure to master basic governance partly explained his administration's botched response to the aftermath of the war in Iraq and also to Hurricane Katrina.

The historical amnesia of Gerald Ford, whose assertion during a 1976 presidential debate that Eastern Europe was not dominated by Moscow was a forerunner of Trump's recent endorsement of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

The strategic impatience of Barack Obama, whose instinct always was to withdraw US forces from troublesome battlefields, such as Iraq, even if the mission had not yet been completed.

Even the distractedness of John F Kennedy, who whiled away afternoons in the White House swimming pool with a bevy of young women to sate his libido, a sexualised version, perhaps, of Donald Trump sitting for his hours in front of his flat-screen TV watching friendly right-wing anchors massage his ego.

At the midpoint of Donald Trump's first term, historians have struggled to detect the kind of virtues that offset his predecessors' vices: the infectious optimism of Reagan; the inspirational rhetoric of JFK; the legislative smarts of LBJ; or the governing pragmatism of Nixon.

So rather than being viewed as the reincarnation of Ronald Reagan or Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Trump gets cast as a modern-day James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce or William Harrison. Last year, a poll of nearly 200 political science scholars, which has routinely placed Republicans higher than Democrats, ranked him 44th out of the 44 men who have occupied the post (for those wondering why Trump is the 45th president, Grover Cleveland served twice).

Though the president has likened himself to Abraham Lincoln, who posterity has deemed to be greatest of all presidents, this survey judged him to be the worst of the worst. Even the conservative scholars, who identified themselves as Republicans, placed him 40th.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46895634
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hightor
 
  4  
Mon 21 Jan, 2019 03:31 am
@maporsche,
Quote:
All I know about it is that it's a hashtag that our good "friend" gungasnake has used repeatedly.

Actually they're different — the current permutation is tagged #WalkAway.
Quote:
That, by itself, tells me enough about it to know that it's bullshit.

That deduction still applies.
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snood
 
  4  
Mon 21 Jan, 2019 03:44 am
Oh my gawd I just had the most rapturous dream...

Pence got swept up into impeachment, indictment and conviction right along with 45; Pelosi swoops into the Presidency and Hillary becomes Speaker by acclamation.

Nearly had a nocturnal emission.

Oh, well - back to reality...

Come on, Mueller!!!!!
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Lash
 
  -2  
Mon 21 Jan, 2019 06:09 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

yup #demexit is used by a very interesting group
definitely not folks who are looking for a Democrat as president of the US

They want a progressive president.

Might be a Democrat, independent, democratic socialist. But, not an establishment democrat or a Republican, sold out to the highest bidder.

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Lash
 
  -2  
Mon 21 Jan, 2019 06:14 am
@glitterbag,
I’m sure that goes double for all the clueless bloviating Canadians as well?
This is the stupidest thing you’ve said here. Your late-night posts, gbag! Get a curfew, ffs.
 

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