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gungasnake
 
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Thu 17 Jan, 2019 11:19 pm
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gungasnake
 
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Thu 17 Jan, 2019 11:36 pm
Pelosi bus to nowhere... squealing...

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3959662/pg1

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For those of you wanting to know what happened to Pelosi's bus to nowhere:

The bus landed finally near the Senate and then was moved to the House, with little to no comment by the busriders! The bus hung around til 5 PM because Pelosi thought she could demand a fix, but she just does not have Presidential powers.

She only has a witches wand.

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the chairman of the House intelligence committee and a perennial Trump critic, was among the lawmakers on the bus. He was joined by Democratic Reps. Eliot Engel of New York, Mark Takano of California, Elaine Luria of Virginia, Susan Davis of California, and Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts.

“This is obviously an action directed at the speaker,” Schiff told reporters after exiting the bus. “And we think, as far as we can tell, this has never happened in the annals of congressional history.”

As he slipped into Pelosi’s office, the bus remained parked outside the House chamber, leaving reporters wondering: Could the trip be back on?

That prospect was soon dashed. The bus rolled away just after 5 p.m., as did any hope that a fruitful behind-the-scenes negotiation with the White House would emerge.

I am trying to locate a picture of the witch disembarking the bus...
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coldjoint
 
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Thu 17 Jan, 2019 11:42 pm
@gungasnake,
Quote:
canaille

Oh my! Riff raff?
glitterbag
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 12:28 am
@coldjoint,
Ohhhh eeeek, you sound so knowlegeababble. Who is Doctor Phil? Is Phil another Quack like Doc Oz?
gungasnake
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 12:30 am
@coldjoint,
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Oh my! Riff raff?


You'd prefer Rudyard Kipling's term (bandarlog)??
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gungasnake
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 01:32 am
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/01/17/watch.-adam-schiff-gets-off-bus-president-trump-cancelled-boondoggle
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 01:58 am
@glitterbag,
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President Donald Trump directed his longtime attorney Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, according to two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter.

Trump also supported a plan, set up by Cohen, to visit Russia during the presidential campaign, in order to personally meet President Vladimir Putin and jump-start the tower negotiations. “Make it happen,” the sources said Trump told Cohen.

And even as Trump told the public he had no business deals with Russia, the sources said Trump and his children, Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr., received regular, detailed updates about the real estate development from Cohen, whom they put in charge of the project.
... ... ...
Buzzfeed
neptuneblue
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 06:13 am
McConnell blocks bill to reopen most of government
BY JORDAIN CARNEY - 01/17/19 06:25 PM EST 3,150
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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blocked legislation on Thursday that would have reopened most of the federal government impacted by the partial shutdown.

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) tried to get consent to take up a House-passed bill that would reopen all agencies except the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which is at the center of the shutdown fight. But McConnell objected.

The Senate GOP leader didn’t explain his objection from the Senate floor but he has warned for weeks that he will not bring up a government funding bill unless it’s the product of an agreement between congressional Democratic leadership and President Trump.

"The solution to this is a negotiation between the one person in the country who can sign something into law, the president of the United States, and our Democratic colleagues," McConnell said Tuesday when he blocked a House bill as well as a piece of legislation to fund DHS through Feb. 8.

This marks the third time that McConnell has blocked House-passed government funding bills in the past two weeks. Under Senate rules, any senator can ask for consent to vote on or pass a bill, but any senator can object.

Roughly a quarter of the government has been shut down since Dec. 22, forcing roughly 800,000 federal employees to work without pay or be furloughed.

Thursday marks the 27th day of the partial shutdown with no obvious path to a quick end to the funding fight.

Talks between President Trump and congressional Democratic leadership derailed after a White House meeting last week. The president left after Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she wouldn't negotiate on the border wall even if the president fully reopened the government.

Tensions further escalated this week with Pelosi asking to postpone the Jan. 29 State of the Union speech and the president, in retaliation, cancelling a foreign policy trip she had planned.

Vice President Pence and the president's son-in-law and advisor Jared Kushner met with McConnell shortly after the floor drama on Thursday evening, but the GOP leader indicated they had not reached an agreement during their talks.

"We're still obviously discussing the situation and if I have any news to make, I'll let you know," McConnell told reporters.

The Senate passed a stopgap bill late last year by a voice vote, but it was rejected by the White House because it didn’t include extra border money.

Trump is demanding more than $5 billion for his signature wall. Democratic leadership has pointed to $1.3 billion as their cap and argued that it must go to fencing.

Democrats are trying to build pressure on McConnell to move government funding legislation even without Trump's blessing, something members of GOP leadership say is not going to happen.

But Kaine, whose state has a large population of federal workers, will force the Senate to be in session on Friday and Saturday. The Senate will also be in session Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of next week, though senators say votes currently aren't scheduled.

Kaine is planning to ask for consent to pass the House package to reopen the government on each of the days, except Saturday. The move will force McConnell or another GOP senator to be on hand to object.


"The first level of illogic we are in is we are punishing the workers and citizens who need services completely unconnected with the border and immigration reform issue," Kaine said on Thursday, about his request to move the package unrelated to DHS funding.

Several GOP senators have backed either taking up the House bills or passing a continuing resolution (CR) to reopen most or all of the government while Democratic leadership and Trump continue to fight over border security.

A bipartisan group of senators, led by Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Chris Coons (D-Del.), were drafting a letter to send to Trump to ask him to back a three-week continuing resolution (CR) in exchange for the Senate agreeing to take up his border request in the Appropriations Committee as an supplemental appropriations bill.

The idea has hit pushback from Republicans and the White House, as well as skepticism from Democrats who are wary of publicly backing the letter without a sense of how much GOP support it has.

But Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), a member of the group, said on Thursday that they had another meeting and were still trying to come up with a proposal along the lines of the one outlined in the letter.

"There are members in good faith who are working on both sides of the aisle and we continue to have discussions," Collins told reporters. "I've just had a meeting with both some Republican members and some Democratic members to discuss a possible path forward."
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tsarstepan
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 09:06 am
blatham
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 09:39 am
@tsarstepan,
The animated bit with Rudy's eyes leaping out and running away is brilliant. Thank you for including that video!
blatham
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 09:47 am
If you might be interested, there is a review of three books on the history of "liberalism" up at The New York Review of Books. It's not over long and it's well laid out. Reading it, I was reminded of how commonly terms like "liberalism" or "neoliberalism" are thrown around with deeply insufficient understanding attended by simple-minded certainty.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 10:29 am
@tsarstepan,
Has Colbert stated the impeachment proceedings yet?
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glitterbag
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 10:34 am
@blatham,
People fling words around as if they honestly know what they mean. You can say ‘patriotic’ with a heavy dose of derision and there would be a bunch of ‘no-nothings’ squawking, tearing their hair out, hatefully pointing fingers at others accusing them of ‘patriotism’. It’s the mob mentality. Apparently it’s too much trouble to ask yourself a question and think for yourself.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 10:35 am
The president has responded to the Buzzfeed story. By quoting Fox News! And repeating his odd reference to Cohen’s father-in-law, while, again, accusing his former close friend and lawyer Cohen of lying.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 10:35 am
@glitterbag,
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Ohhhh eeeek, you sound so knowlegeababble.

I would think anyone would sound knowledgeable to you, thanks anyway.
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blatham
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 10:37 am
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“My wife and I have been in the public eye for quite a while. We’re used to the criticism,” Pence said in an interview with Eternal Word Television Network. “But I have to tell you, to see major news organizations attacking Christian education, is deeply offensive to us.

This is a common device that some religions or religious types use to set themselves and their ideas/policy prescriptions apart from normal discourse and criticism. Pence's stance here is identical to the responses from many religious right folks when Oral Roberts University was attacked for prohibiting interracial dating (and gay sex).

The underlying (and almost always unstated) premise is that religious beliefs are due unique dispensation; while it's fine to criticize political persons/ideas/beliefs, for example, it is NOT FINE to criticize religious persons/ideas/beliefs. By it's nature, this mindset elevates religion to a higher plane than other civic notions, philosophies and groups. That reach for authoritarian control is the key facet and danger.

Another way to think about this is to observe its reverse imagine in states like N Korea or the USSR where it is the political ideas that are/were held to be sacred (not to be challenged) and religious ideas justifiable and necessary targets of investigation and criticism. Here again, the goal is authoritarian control.


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glitterbag
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 10:37 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

The animated bit with Rudy's eyes leaping out and running away is brilliant. Thank you for including that video!


I suspect Rudy is actually the love child of Nosferatu and Uncle Fester.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 18 Jan, 2019 10:38 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Trump directed his longtime attorney Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, according to two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter.

Who directed him to lie about everything else? No credibility.
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