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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 12:43 pm
@farmerman,
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"They blame the other side for what theyve been doing all along but count on the other sides not wanting to look petty"

There is no blame in that cartoon just the fact that the MSM is decidedly anti-Trump and a Democratic globalist puppet. You have quite an imagination.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 12:45 pm
@hightor,
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without resorting to the Pochahontas ****.

She took the DNA test and was stupid enough to release the results. What goes around comes around. Just another chance to yell racist. It will be rightfully ignored.
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 12:50 pm
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A sculpture that partly features the Saudi flag is being removed from the site of the 9/11 terror attack.

The artwork, Candy Nations, shows a series of large sweets wrapped in the flags of the G20 nations.

French artist Laurence Jenkell says she wanted to "celebrate mankind" with the work, which she first created in 2011.

But its proximity to Ground Zero in New York was criticised as insensitive. Some hold Saudi Arabia partly responsible for the 2001 attacks.

Following the complaints, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey confirmed that it is moving all 20 sculptures from its current site in the World Trade Center complex.

"We have been in contact with the 9/11 Memorial and various stakeholders, and in full collaboration with the artist will relocate the exhibit from its current location," a spokesperson tells BBC News.

"We believe this solution respects the unique sensitivities of the site and preserves the artistic integrity of the exhibit."

It will be moved later this week.

The sculpture, which has been shown in more than 25 countries, was installed in downtown Manhattan last month - where it was due to remain until 28 February.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46861593

https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/01/g20candyhead.jpg
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 02:11 pm
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Undocumented Immigrants Cost U.S. $113 Billion Annually

The wall is much cheaper. Finding and deporting people that overstayed their visas is cheaper too.
https://godfatherpolitics.com/undocumented-immigrants-cost-u-s-113-billion-annually/
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 02:23 pm
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Rep. Bill Posey Introduces Legislation to End Visa Lottery

Quote:
The bill would simply eliminate the visa lottery that awards 55,000 green cards to foreign citizens who have their applications drawn from a random selection administered by the Department of State.

In 2018, nearly 14.7 million entries were submitted for the lottery.

Ending the visa lottery was a recommendation of the last bipartisan Congressional commission on immigration, chaired by the late Barbara Jordan, and is one of NumbersUSA's 5 Great Solutions.

Good idea. We have no idea who these people are. Why gamble in an age of terror?
https://www.numbersusa.com/news/rep-bill-posey-introduces-legislation-end-visa-lottery
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blatham
 
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Mon 14 Jan, 2019 04:29 pm
@hightor,
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a big part of why trump happened is the mainstream media being "bored" with normal politicians

It's a big part of why Obama happened as well

But what is it about people that they want to vote for media stars? It's not as if Trump and "empty pantsuit" Palin got exclusively positive coverage. They were mocked and made to look foolish — and people still voted for them. And, to be fair, both Clinton and Obama were a lot glitzier than their opponents. In fact, I believe the decline of our political culture began when Bill revealed what kind of undershorts he preferred..

Again, I'm not sure of your point. I presume you are talking about "charisma" or welcome novelty as a natural media preference. Perhaps another earlier example would be the newspapers' responses to Lincoln's Cooper Union speech. Sure. But that surely doesn't tell us the whole story and it certainly isn't something Tomasky has missed.

The facts that Trump arrived in the White House and that Obama also arrived in the White House tells us nothing much at all about media behaviors and the quality of media coverage preceding the two elections (by "quality" here, I mean value to voters and to US civic structures).

What am I missing?
blatham
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 04:57 pm
Last night, I was listening to a discussion with the producer and director of Dennis Potter's masterpiece The Singing Detective (broadcast on BBC in 1987). One anecdote that caught my attention was that Murdoch and Thatcher were cooperating to 1) provide a regulatory regime that would permit Murdoch to gain influence and dominance and 2) in exchange for media coverage to help Thatcher gain and hold dominance politically.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 05:21 pm


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Media turns blind eye to Dems' jaunt to PR during shutdown[/b]


This not a surprise. Or unexpected. Should't they be in Washington or somewhere buying groceries for TSA workers?
https://onenewsnow.com/media/2019/01/14/media-turns-blind-eye-to-dems-jaunt-to-pr-during-shutdown#.XDy7Qjb_cHk.twitter
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hightor
 
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Mon 14 Jan, 2019 05:27 pm
@blatham,
It wasn't a criticism of Obama. His political style was mainstream. He got a lot of attention because people were looking for some new, something different. The media coverage of him was generally fair but he was treated as a star. Trump, being a toxic, undisciplined, non-mainstream presence whose only "difference" was his total lack of experience — well the media had to cover him. He really was a "star". And he provided much more in the way of "news" because of this. But I think seventy-five years of Hollywood and Madison Avenue being shot into people's vision screens and the geometric increase with digital communication has prepared us for this moment, the pathways to the political brain are now shared with those of the entertainment brain. I'd give you some examples but I gotta go — band practice.
RABEL222
 
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Mon 14 Jan, 2019 05:39 pm
ShOW TIME! Mc. Connal raises hell about Kings racist comments but not one word about our kkk president. Show time!
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 06:23 pm
@hightor,
(What's your instrument?")
Quote:
But I think seventy-five years of Hollywood and Madison Avenue being shot into people's vision screens and the geometric increase with digital communication has prepared us for this moment, the pathways to the political brain are now shared with those of the entertainment brain. I'd give you some examples but I gotta go — band practice.

Gotcha. And you'll get no argument from me on that.

Still, I deem it both worthwhile and necessary for us study media and direct it, so much as we can, to avoid the worst consequences of this new human information universe. Regulations/limitations on media ownership/penetration are at the top of that list. But even outside of that, I've seen the major media shift behaviors during this Trump period and I've seen many of them attend the criticisms of Jay Rosen, Margaret Sullivan and others.

Eyeballs are glued to screens now as any visit to a doctor's waiting room or any visit to a high school will make manifest. We're stuck with this new reality. And we are stuck with the reality of the situation where Les Moonves can dryly state that Trump may be "bad for America but he's damn good for CBC". Still, I'm somewhat optimistic (at least until the oceans rise 3 more feet).
Builder
 
  -3  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 06:23 pm
@hightor,
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.....whose only "difference" was his total lack of experience — well the media had to cover him. He really was a "star". And he provided much more in the way of "news" because of this.


Still in denial, I see? Trump won because he wasn't a career criminal lying bitch, who abused the very people she needed to be winning over.

Clinton could have lost this one to any up-and-comer. Though it is rather unusual that you don't even have to be a governor for a term, to qualify for the hot seat.
nimh
 
  2  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 07:47 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

was too lazy to verify. No good excuse for that.

Sounds like a good enough excuse to me! Very Happy
hightor
 
  2  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 07:53 pm
@blatham,
(tenor sax)
I'm always struck by people's lack of patience with regard to political objectives and the actual pace of change. New president comes in after having made all sort of promises, raising everyone's hopes — two years later, he's barely liked even in his home state, his party's swept from office — "Hey, where's that new interstate highway system you promised us in the campaign? Hell with ya then, let's change the channel."
glitterbag
 
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Mon 14 Jan, 2019 07:55 pm
@Builder,
What a coincidence, and yet here in the US we know Trump won the electoral college exactly because he IS a career criminal lying little bitch who will abuse every living thing unfortunate enough to fall under his piggy eyed gaze. There will never be enough power, enough money or enough women to satisfy his gluttonous appetites. He is stupid about the important things and resents anyone who isn't stupid about the important things. Ultimately, he is a zero....he's the man you hope you're divorced sister doesn't bring to the family reunion or frankly any important event because he will make it all about himself. He's just a big hateful ball of resentment, cruelty, pettiness and spite with a limited vocabulary and a dreadful Queens accent with lips that look they belong on a different part of his ponderous self.
hightor
 
  3  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 07:57 pm
@Builder,
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Trump won because he wasn't a career criminal lying bitch, who abused the very people she needed to be winning over.

Except I wasn't talking about why he won, just noting the media attention he got.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 14 Jan, 2019 07:59 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Again, HOW is this appropriate in any way?
It is appropriate because it is fair and factual criticism.

Nick Visser wrote:
Trump Goes On Racist Tirade Against Elizabeth Warren Amid New Russia Scandals
It's really funny how the left thinks that calling everyone a racist is a valid substitution for facts and logic.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 08:02 pm
@glitterbag,
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There will never be enough power, enough money or enough women to satisfy his gluttonous appetites.

Oh my! Are we talking about Goldfinger? Your hyperbole is comical.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 08:12 pm
@coldjoint,
Future historians are going to have a lot of fun contrasting "people who hated Trump" with "people who hated Lincoln".

I don't think they'll find much difference in the end.
neptuneblue
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 08:18 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
It is appropriate because it is fair and factual criticism.


It's childish and stupid. The fact that you think that's appropriate for an American president to act is really sad.
 

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