@coldjoint,
Quote:Mulvaney said that Obama, Schumer and Clinton voted for a border wall in 2006.
They did vote for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized building a fence along about 700 miles of the border between the United States and Mexico.
Still, the fence they voted for is not as substantial as the wall Trump is proposing. Trump himself called the 2006 fence a "nothing wall."
Mulvaney’s statement is partially accurate, but ignores important context. We rate it Half True.
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It was Pelosi, not those three, who called the wall "immoral". But again, context is important here. Trump's rhetoric, likening immigrants to infectious vermin and labeling them as terrorists, criminals, rapists, and drug smugglers, and using this lie to work up his followers in mass rallies was disgusting, and I don't blame Pelosi for her comment, even though I think it was dumb.
The problem is exacerbated by Trump's original call for a wall to be made of precast concrete, and rise 35 to 40 feet, or 50 feet, or higher.
Trump poisoned the discussion (as usual) by going overboard and turning the whole debate into a partisan **** show. Frankly, I don't object to improving the barrier in places and extending it in others, nor do I oppose spending on more personnel and new technology. Most Democrats in Congress would have gone along with border improvements if Trump hadn't escalated the controversy around illegal immigration by characterizing it as an invasion and calling it a threat to national security. There are good arguments for maintaining sections of fencing but they're not being made by Mr. Trump. If there are good arguments for doing away with all the physical barriers on the border I haven't heard them being made by any Democrats. Labeling the wall itself as "immoral" is not a particularly good argument. I fault McConnell for remaining loyal to Trump. Get the government back open, form an independent "Commission on Border Security", have them work up some proposals, and let congress debate and decide.