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@coldjoint,

Wouldn't it make MORE sense to spend the money already allocated BEFORE asking for more?

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@neptuneblue,

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Wouldn't it make MORE sense to spend the money already allocated BEFORE asking for more?

When has that ever stopped anyone?

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@hightor,

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It's civil liberties the Democrats hate. They want equal rights, but not equal freedoms.

This doesn't make any sense. Care to explain the difference between someone wanting "equal rights" and someone wanting "equal freedoms"?

You don't understand the difference between civil liberties and civil freedoms? I'll not quote the entire thing, but some highlights:

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Civil Rights

Civil rights concern the basic right to be free from unequal treatment based on certain protected characteristics (race, gender, disability, etc.) in settings such as employment, education, housing, and access to public facilities. A civil rights violation occurs in designated situations where an individual is discriminated against on the basis of a protected characteristic. Most civil rights laws are established through the federal government via federal legislation or case law.

Civil Liberties

Civil liberties concern basic rights and freedoms that are guaranteed -- either explicitly identified in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, or interpreted or inferred through the years by legislatures or the courts.

It would be silly to argue that Democrats, or really any American would be against Civil Rights. But, it is often times confused with Civil Freedoms which is not really interchangeable. Do you see the difference now?

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They hate Fox News, Christians and conservative speakers so the 1st amendment is out the door for them.

Fox News is merely right-wing propaganda dressed up like a legitimate news source. This gets pointed out time after time. Since many Democrats are Christians your statement is overly broad. Most Democrats, even the religious ones, are fine with Jefferson's "wall of separation" between church and state, and are likely to criticize religionists (of any denomination) who challenge or dispute the "establishment clause" of the 1st Amendment. I doubt if "Democrats hate conservative speakers" any more than "Republicans hate liberal speakers" — you've said nothing.

I've said everything. Democrats and the extreme left want to ban FoxNews from the air. Just because Trump bitches about the media (the leftist nedia btw) doesn't give Democrats any break in their hatred of the free press when it is aganst their point of view. Same with religion. Democrats are ok with it, so long as it is "their" religion. Being pro-baby death and being Christian seem to be at odds, don't you think? How many conservative protests do you recall being based on someone giving a talk somewhere? I can't recall a single one. How many protests can you count from Democrats and their ultra-liberal scumbags about someone talking about a different point of view can you think of? 30? 40? That's just at Berkely. The Democrats hate and want to ban anything and everything they disagree with.

Just because other may, doesn't lessen the fact that the Dems do.

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They hate guns, so 2A is done

You're confused. Just because people "hate guns" doesn't mean the 2nd Amendment disappears. You need to take a civics class.

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They are fine with gun confiscation so the 4th goes away

Another dumb generalization — where is this "gun confiscation" occurring?

"common sense gun reform" means gun bans and confiscation. I think you have your head in the sand on this one. 2A is pretty clear "shall not be infringed". It doesn't say "shall not be infringed unless it looks scary, has a barrel shroud and a pistol grip or holds more than 7 bullets or might go bang and scare someone."

Where is gun confiscation going on? Maryland, Massachusetts, Illinois, North Carolina, zoregon... your neighborhood should your side win... Seriously, you don't know about this stuff?

hightor wrote:

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It's a terrible time to be a Libertarian in America as it slowly moves into a police state.

It's always a bad time to be a Libertarian because Libertarians will forever be disappointed in the great gulf between their ideals and political reality.

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Yes, on that we agree.

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You just proced my point. Thank you.

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Germany's Parliament approves third gender option called 'Diverse'

That should fix everything. This is what is called progress? Setting another group apart creates division and resentment and manufactured victim status. All of these kind of moves chip away at our culture. And it is past the point of these people do not know what they are doing, they do.

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An activist group called "Third Option" backed the changes and called it a "major step with regard to visibility and legal equality," the Daily Mail reported. The group also called for eliminating the medical approval clause.

That screams victim.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/germany-approves-third-gender?utm_content=bufferfa794&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=theblaze

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@MontereyJack,

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You just proced my point.

"proced" Is that a new way to cook?

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@coldjoint,

What it ascreams is people demanding and getting their rights. But of course you equate people getting their rights with the alleged destruction of Western civilization. How ignoble can you be?

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@MontereyJack,

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But of course you equate people getting their rights with the alleged destruction of Western civilization.

No, I equate bullshit with bullshit. And if manufacturing a gender, a biological fact, through law is bullshit.

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@coldjoint,

Nobody manufactured it. It's always been there. That''s the problem (one of the problems at least) woth conservatives is that they'd rather live in ideology than in the real world

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@MontereyJack,

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It's always been there.

Can you prove that? Nope.

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@MontereyJack,

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Yeah, as a matter of fact there is, the national climate change assessment recently released, "just the facts, ma'am." It's not rhetoric, it's real and it bites and it bites ideology-driven right - wing science-deniers on the ass.

Except, they aren't "the facts" at all. These climate change studies are rife with leftist fraud.

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@neptuneblue,

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So...
You don't think there's a correlation of deteriorating climate due to:
Millions of crude oil being extracted from the underbelly of the earth
Millions of coal being extracted from the underbelly of the earth
Millions of minerals such as salt, gold, iron ore and other substances from the underbelly of the earth
That might have an unhealthy consequence on how this earth actually functions ?

It is possible that carbon emissions cause global warming.

Extractive mining itself does not cause any problems with the climate.

There should be environmental regulations to prevent localized pollution of course.

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@neptuneblue,

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We can do OUR part by NOT rolling back protections that provide the BEST chance of long term effectiveness of conservation of the planet...

Assuming that global warming is a problem, we could offset reductions in carbon emissions by building more nuclear reactors.

Or we could release particles into the upper atmosphere to block sunlight.

Or other nations could equitably share in energy rollbacks instead of placing most of the burden on America.

The notion that America's economy needs to be crippled in order to save the climate is nonsense.

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@hightor,

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Wells Griffith, President Donald Trump’s adviser on energy and climate, made quite an impression at this year’s largest climate change conference held in Poland when he used his speaking time to bolster the necessity of coal.

According to a Washington Post report, Griffith took the podium Monday and said, “We strongly believe that no country should have to sacrifice economic prosperity or energy security in pursuit of environmental sustainability.”

The room erupted into laughter, punctuated with shouts of protest.
TPM

I hope these nutcases have fun implementing their accord without American participation.

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@oralloy,

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The notion that America's economy needs to be crippled in order to save the climate is nonsense.

Worth repeating. To lower our standard of living so people who wish to destroy this country or just plain kill us is stupidity on the highest plane in existence.

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@neptuneblue,

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-aW538oOik

I hope those nutcases have fun implementing their accord without any help from America.

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@neptuneblue,

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Action is required. Not denying the facts.

When supposed facts are actually fraudulent, it is proper that they not be accepted.

If it turns out that action is required, there are plenty of things that can be done without destroying the US economy.

For example, reductions in carbon fuel could be offset with more nuclear reactors.

We could release sunlight-blocking particles into the upper atmosphere to offset any heating provided by carbon pollution.

And if there are to be energy reductions, other nations could shoulder a fair portion of the burden instead of placing most of the burden on America.

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@coldjoint,

Changing fuels to an energy efficient substitute doesn't cripple anything. In fact, innovation is the key to developing more products, not less.

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Liberals look at the world and say, "Wow, so many beautiful new creative things going on. How amazing to be alive." Conservatives look at the world and say, "Is that new? Then it sucks." Much more interesting and stimulating to be a liberal.

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@neptuneblue,

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Changing fuels to an energy efficient substitute doesn't cripple anything.

The left doesn't want us switching to nuclear power though. The left will only accept outcomes that do cripple the American economy.

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