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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Fri 7 Dec, 2018 08:00 pm
@coldjoint,
Yeah, right I know. The whole world is lying except you.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 7 Dec, 2018 08:09 pm
@MontereyJack,
Read the Koran, look at the killing of Christians and other Muslims. Look at Europe. I am not wrong. This is inspired by Islam and permitted and aided by far more people than you think.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 7 Dec, 2018 08:50 pm
@coldjoint,
Intersting th Snopes comm[img]entary. Moh[/img]ammed had Jewish allies fighting with him in some of his battles. Look at the Christian Serbs a couple decades ago who e]assacred Muslims wholesale foe something that happened 700 years ago. n
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Fri 7 Dec, 2018 08:56 pm
@coldjoint,
Look at the nominally Christian Nazis, who massacred millions of Jews. Look at the Russian Ofrthodox pogroms against the Jews a couple generations earlier. If yhou want to argue that religions whatever they may be are only to ready to **** over peoplean, you'll get no argument from me. Muslims are nobetter or worse than anbody else.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 12:26 am
@MontereyJack,
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Look at the nominally Christian Nazis, who massacred millions of Jews.

OK, no problem let Islam kill who ever they want because you think Nazis were Christians. You clearly will fall for anything..
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 12:39 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Moh[/img]ammed had Jewish allies fighting with him in some of his battles.

Read what Muhammad said about treaties or vows. Then you will know that was a convenience and all Jews were expelled from Arabia or killed. It meant 0 to Muhammad.
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MontereyJack
 
  4  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 03:07 am
Remember how the trumpists and trump swore up and down there was NO contact between them and Russians before the election? Now it's turning out there was an almost constant stream of interactions dating back to Nov. 2015. Trump Looks like tumrp et al LIED LIEDLIED What else is new? Looks like collusion is going to be clearly in the cars. Ndever has been a witch hunt. Lock him up
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New Mueller filing says Trump’s ex-lawyer Michael Cohen was in touch with a Russian seeking ‘political synergy’ with campaign



Mueller filing: Manafort lied about contact with Trump…

© Mary Altaffer/AP Michael Cohen, former personal lawyer to President Trump, leaves federal court, Tuesday, Aug. 21, 2018, in New York.
A Russian national who claimed ties to the Kremlin told President Trump’s personal attorney, Michael Cohen, as early as November 2015 that he could use his Russian government connections to help Trump’s business and political prospects.

The new Russia contact was revealed Friday by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, as he outlined cooperation that Cohen has provided the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
The interaction between a top Trump lieutenant and a Russian citizen who claimed government ties is the latest of dozens of similar interactions that have emerged since the November 2016 election. Days after Trump’s victory, his spokeswoman Hope Hicks asserted that there had been no contacts of any kind between Trump associates and Russia.
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The new information about Cohen is particularly significant because the contact came in the campaign’s early months and because prosecutors said the Russian national claimed to have interest in helping Trump’s campaign as well as his business.
Prosecutors wrote that around November 2015, “Cohen received the contact information for, and spoke with, a Russian national who claimed to be a ‘trusted person’ in the Russian Federation who could offer the campaign ‘political synergy’ and ‘synergy on a government level.’ ”
They said Cohen told prosecutors that the Russian repeatedly suggested arranging a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Trump, in part as a way of helping Cohen advance plans to build a Trump real estate project in Moscow.
“The person told Cohen that such a meeting could have a ‘phenomenal’ impact ‘not only in political but in a business dimension as well,’ referring to the Moscow Project, because there is ‘no bigger warranty in any project than consent of [the President of Russia],’ ” prosecutors wrote.
By the time Cohen made contact with the Russian, he had already begun work on a Trump building project in partnership with Felix Sater, a Russian-born Trump business partner. Cohen has pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about details of that project, including a phone call he arranged with a Kremlin official in January 2016 to discuss the project.
Sater, too, suggested arranging a meeting with Putin, and Cohen told prosecutors he did not pursue the Russian’s offer because he decided to work with Sater instead.
The new information underscores both the frequency of offers of support that were extended from Russia to Trump’s top aides during the campaign — and the eagerness with which some of his closest advisers greeted those entrees.
Prosecutors wrote that Cohen was an early advocate of a meeting between candidate Trump and Putin. In a September 2015 radio interview, Cohen suggested that Trump meet with the Russian president while he was in New York to attend the annual meeting of the United Nations General Assembly. Prosecutors said that Cohen later claimed the comments were spur of the moment, but he has admitted in recent weeks that he conferred with Trump about reaching out to the Russian government.
The fall 2015 contact came at an important time in the campaign. As Trump’s candidacy was starting to heat up, Putin appeared to grow more interested in his effort. On Dec. 17, 2015, Putin attracted notice by offering praise for the celebrity businessman, calling him “colorful and talented” and the “absolute leader of the presidential race.” Trump returned the compliment the next day, calling Putin “a leader, unlike what we have in this country.”
Mueller’s filing came in advance of Cohen’s sentencing Wednesday for various crimes, including lying to Congress about his Russia contacts. Prosecutors in New York said Cohen should receive substantial jail time, in part because they said he has provided only grudging cooperation to their investigations, which are separate from the Mueller probe.
In a separate filing, however, Mueller said Cohen has “gone to significant lengths” to aid the investigation of Russian involvement in the 2016 election.
Prosecutors said his information had helped explain his interactions with Russian interests, as well as information related to what they called “certain discrete Russia-related matters core” to the investigation that he learned through regular contact with executives of Trump’s business. They said he was also able to provide information about contacts with White House officials after Trump took office and the circumstances that surrounded the preparation of his false testimony to Congress.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 03:12 am
@MontereyJack,
/www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-mueller-filing-says-trump’s-ex-lawyer-michael-cohen-was-in-touch-with-a-russian-seeking-‘political-synergy’-with-campaign/ar-B
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farmerman
 
  3  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 03:19 am
@MontereyJack,
Trumpies have adopted the Bart Simpson approach to admission of guilt, its a gradual unfolding og guilt that will be topped off with a "Well collusion isnt a crime really"
snood
 
  3  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 03:31 am
@farmerman,
I think they've already topped that, and proceeded straight to "It might be a crime, but you can't do anything about it."
izzythepush
 
  2  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 04:50 am
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The US and the UK have accused the Syrian government and its Russian allies of fabricating a story accusing rebel fighters of a chemical attack.

The US state department said the purpose was to "undermine confidence" in the ceasefire in Idlib province.

Syria and Russia said shells carrying chlorine gas injured about 100 people in the government-held city of Aleppo last month.

State media showed images of residents being treated in hospital.

Russia later carried out air strikes against the rebels it accused of the attack.

At the time, rebel groups denied carrying out a chemical strike and said the claims were a pretext for an attack on opposition-held areas.

On Friday, the US said it had "credible information" that the story was false and that Russian and Syrian forces had instead fired tear gas.

"The United States is deeply concerned that pro-regime officials have maintained control of the attack site in its immediate aftermath, allowing them to potentially fabricate samples and contaminate the site before a proper investigation of it by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons," state department spokesman Robert Palladino said.

"We caution Russia and the regime against tampering with the suspected attack site and urge them to secure the safety of impartial, independent inspectors so that those responsible can be held accountable."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-46490497
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snood
 
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Sat 8 Dec, 2018 07:55 am
You know one thing that's troubling about the upcoming final report from Mueller? The person that will decide the scope of how widely the results are released is Trump's lackey interim AG - Whitaker. That will be true at least until the Senate confirmation hearings for Barr. So it's entirely possible that a defense read of Mueller's findings by you and me will be prohibited.
revelette1
 
  4  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 10:30 am
@snood,
If the republicans in the Senate had any respect for the integrity of country over their own political goals and pockets and impeach and remove Trump from office, we already know enough through Mueller's court filings without a need for a final report. There is enough known right now to impeach him if only congress would develop some morals. I know Pence would then be president and the country would still be right-wing and it might affect democrats chances in 2020, but it is ethical and right thing to do.
snood
 
  4  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 10:46 am
@revelette1,
That's true. But rev we've been deprived of any Republican senator with moral character and the courage of his conviction for so long that the posturings of Graham, Corker and Flake look like leadership and courage. I think Trump could be caught on video colluding to hand power to Putin, and McConnell and his senators would just shrug. I hope I'm wrong.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 8 Dec, 2018 11:08 am
@snood,
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Mueller's findings

Mueller's report will not find any crime. It is just to put more lies out there that will never see a court because of the lack of evidence and the 0 credibility of known liars that would never be considered seriously as credible witnesses.

So it will be fairy tales that they hope people will just believe. The MSM will push it and Democrats will keep the accusations coming as long as Trump is in office.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 8 Dec, 2018 11:14 am
@snood,
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with moral character and the courage of his conviction

That is enough of that ****. Where was the moral character when Obama gave a terrorist regime over a billion dollars in cash? Where was the moral character when Assad crossed his red line?

Stop the moralizing when your morals change with the direction of the wind and frankly mean nothing to the Left.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 11:47 am
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In the email, Narvey writes of the Murphy essay:

Canadian journalist Rex Murphy brilliantly kicks the Trump haters in the ass
and provides reasoned, reality based and logical insights and points to totally undermine and refute the worst that Trump haters imagine and say about President Trump.

This is a must read, even for those suffering Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Maybe, just maybe if those so afflicted still have a window in their minds, left ajar just enough to let common sense to flood in like fresh air, they just might be cured of their anti-Trump bias that so debilitates their faculties of reason and logic.

This is simply delusional.

Spot on.
http://www.targetliberty.com/2018/12/have-trump-haters-been-kicked-in-ass.html?spref=tw
hightor
 
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Sat 8 Dec, 2018 11:53 am
@coldjoint,
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Where was the moral character when Obama gave a terrorist regime over a billion dollars in cash? Where was the moral character when Assad crossed his red line?

You're confused — again. I assume you're talking about the return of money to Iran...this was a totally ethical transfer of funds ($400 million, with interest) which settled a 40-year old dispute. The USA doesn't appropriate money illegally from other countries: the money was legitimately owed to Iran.

As far as the "red line" in Syria goes, that has nothing to do with "moral character". Assad crossed a "red line" by using chemical weapons; he can't "un-use" them. His actions mean that he goes down in history as someone who violated the rules of war. Obama was right — and he avoided a military confrontation with Russia when Syria admitted possession of chemical weapons and committed itself to relinquishing them. The fact that Syria refused to fulfill this commitment says more about their ally Russia than it does about the USA. If there's a matter of "moral character" involved I suggest you apply it, critically, to Assad and Putin.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 12:06 pm
@hightor,
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again. I assume you're talking about the return of money to Iran.

There is no reason Obama had to do that. No other president thought is was necessary considering the Islamic assholes they, Iran, had proven themselves to be.

I notice you said nothing about 5 Taliban killers for 1 traitor. What is the moral lesson there?
hightor
 
  3  
Sat 8 Dec, 2018 12:07 pm
@coldjoint,
Here's the original Murphy article:
Rex Murphy: Trump Tower may be a gaudy excess, but it is not the Berghof on stilts
It's nowhere near as cogent and hard-hitting as you pretend it is.

Nobody cares what "Narvey" says if we don't have access to the original essay.

As Robert Wenzel writes in response to Narvey,
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That's my point. It is dishonest to claim that Trump haters have been "kicked in the ass" by aggregating them all together and giving the impression that you can't attack Trump with logic.

From the point Trump first hit the campaign trail I have consistently pointed out that the left would attack Trump while the right would be sucked up into his statist nonsense which is what has occurred.

Where are the attacks against Trump from Murphy? They don't exist. The Trump loving right and libertarians have fallen in love with a statist buffoon.
 

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